Pakistan is getting dry

Firstly the treaty is gone.

Secondly even if it were not. As per the treaty india is allowed to store 3.5 MAF water on the western rivers.

Thirdly the tunnel being built will only be able transfer maximum 0.9 - 1.5 MAF water.

For 60 years every single time India proposed project on the western rivers. Pakistan used to drag India through decades of litigation, arbitrations, neutral experts.

Pakistan always ended up loosing as it did on Baghliar and Kishenganga projects.

It was a smart delay tactic, that Pakistan used to its advantage to slow any development in Jammu Kashmir region.

With IWT now gone, that is not gonna happen again.
This guy reminds me of the viral video going around where an Indian Faqir tried to prove that ''he can fly'' by jumping off a cliff in front of hundreds of Hindu followers. He did jump and ''died a painful death''. So yeah, go ahead Hindu, JUMP!
 
ہمارا گلا گھونٹنے کی تیاری ہوچکی ہے۔ ہمیں اپنے بموں پر غرور ہے اور انڈیا ہمیں کہیں اور سے دبوچنے کی تیاری کررہا ہے۔
بہتر ہوگا کہ ہم جاگ جائیں۔
India is pursuing a large, fast-tracked hydropower push in Jammu & Kashmir (mostly on the Chenab basin) and a smaller but growing set of projects in Ladakh (on the Indus and its tributaries). Here's the current picture as of mid-2026.


Jammu & Kashmir — Chenab Basin (the big push)​


This region has seen accelerated construction since India suspended the Indus Waters Treaty in 2025 following the Pahalgam terror attack, freeing projects from treaty-mandated design restrictions and Pakistani objections.


Under construction / nearing completion:


  • Pakal Dul (1,000 MW) – Kishtwar district; India's largest storage-type hydro project in J&K; the Power Ministry has directed it be commissioned by December 2026The Minister issued directions to commission the Pakal Dul and Kiru projects by December 2026 and the Kwar project by March 2028.
  • Kiru (624 MW) – Kishtwar; also targeted for December 2026 completion.
  • Kwar (540 MW) – Kishtwar; targeted for March 2028.
  • Ratle (850 MW) – Kishtwar; a joint venture between NHPC and JKSPDC. Progress was slow initially and the project reached only about 25 to 26 per cent completion, but construction picked up pace after the treaty was suspended in 2025. Estimates suggest completion only in late 2028 or early 2029.
  • Dulhasti Stage-II (390 MW expansion) – received clearance in December 2025, adding new units via a diversion tunnel.

Planned/DPR stage (larger pipeline):


  • Sawalkote (1,856 MW) – Ramban/Udhampur districts; will be the largest hydro project on the Chenab once built.
  • Bursar (800 MW) – a storage dam on the Marusudar (Chenab tributary) in Kishtwar, also meant to regulate flow for downstream projects.
  • Kirthai I (390 MW) and Kirthai II (930 MW) – Chenab basin.
  • Ujh Multi-purpose Project (212 MW) – on the Ravi basin, a national project.

Existing projects getting upgrades: Salal, Baglihar and Dulhasti have undergone sediment-flushing/desilting to restore reservoir capacity now that treaty-linked restrictions on such work have been lifted.


Officials project J&K's installed hydro capacity rising from 3,540.15 MW currently to 5,164.15 MW by December 2026, once Pakal Dul and Kiru are commissioned.


Ladakh​


Ladakh's hydropower base is much smaller (the region was administratively separated from J&K in 2019, taking roughly 2,000 MW of potential with it). Existing/near-complete plants include the Nimoo Bazgo (45 MW) and Chutak (44 MW) projects on the Indus, alongside several smaller schemes. I don't have confirmed, up-to-date details on any newly announced large Ladakh hydro projects for 2026 — if you want, I can search specifically for the latest NHPC/Ladakh UT government announcements (there's periodic talk of projects on the Indus, Zanskar, and Shyok rivers, but I'd rather verify current status than guess).
 
Who will stop us ? Pakistan ? how ?

Besides plan seems simple ,diversions in Chenab to beas/Sutlej system which flows into Indira canal & storage on Indus to completely manage the downward flow.

Pakistan will bomb Indian dams on eastern rivers. Pakistan is willing to go nuclear to protect our rivers. This was made clear even recently.

If nukes cannot deter India from stealing Pakistan water then so be it.
 
Pakistan can enable disintegration of India by stimulation in Bengal, Kerala and Maharashtra at once.
Doing war is not an option ( or is it?)
 
Pakistan will bomb Indian dams on eastern rivers. Pakistan is willing to go nuclear to protect our rivers. This was made clear even recently.

If nukes cannot deter India from stealing Pakistan water then so be it.
Nuclear option is for existential threat to Pakistan and water blockage clearly represents that threat. No one in Pakistan will flinch an eye if the situation is led by India to that point of no return.
 
Reality is your country is pushing for talks & some kind of normalization all accross the world ,to reinstate IWT.

Which is not going to happen with current Indian leadership, Your best course of action is to handover terrorists & ask for renegotiation.

As for bombing dams , you are welcome to try.

World doesn't care because they like what Pakistan is saying. For world killing billion plus Indians will mean less Indian immigrants to deal with. So we are not counting on increasingly anti-Indian world, we developed the tools for this moment.
 
Reality is your country is pushing for talks & some kind of normalization all accross the world ,to reinstate IWT.

Which is not going to happen with current Indian leadership, Your best course of action is to handover terrorists & ask for renegotiation.

As for bombing dams , you are welcome to try.

Then why not just go ahead and build the dams instead of the constant talking about building them?
 
Tell me genius how Pakistan building dams will solve India diverting Pakistan rivers water? There is a reason we have made our stance clear before the world.

Every time the topic of Pakistan’s water crisis comes up, someone throws out the same defensive line:
“Tell me genius, how will building dams stop India from diverting water?”

It’s a familiar argument because it shifts the conversation away from Pakistan’s own responsibilities. It avoids looking inward. It avoids acknowledging that Pakistan’s water emergency is shaped not only by geopolitics, but by decades of internal paralysis, political ego, and a national inability to build the infrastructure every serious country considers essential.

India diverting water is one issue.
Pakistan wasting the water it already gets is another.
And pretending these two are the same is how Pakistan ended up here.

The Water We Lose Because We Never Learned to Save It

Pakistan receives enormous seasonal flows from the Indus system. Yet year after year, tens of millions of acre-feet rush straight into the Arabian Sea. Not because India diverted it. Not because the world conspired against Pakistan. But because Pakistan simply has nowhere to store it.

This is the part that hurts to say, Pakistan is water‑insecure even when India does nothing.

Dams don’t stop India.
Dams stop Pakistan from drowning in floods, starving in droughts, and collapsing under climate shocks.

They are not a geopolitical weapon.
They are a survival tool.

Diplomacy Without Infrastructure Is Just Performance

Pakistan often says it has “made its stance clear before the world.”
Statements may be necessary but they do not irrigate fields. They do not generate electricity. They do not store water for dry months.

India negotiates and builds dams.
Pakistan negotiates instead of building dams.

That is the difference between a functioning water strategy and a perpetual crisis.

Kalabagh: The Dam Pakistan Buried With Its Own Hands

If there is one symbol of Pakistan’s self-inflicted water disaster, it is the Kalabagh Dam.

Kalabagh was not just another project. It was the backbone Pakistan desperately needed:

• Thousands of megawatts of cheap electricity
• Massive water storage
• Flood protection
• Agricultural stability
• Billions saved annually

It was the kind of project countries fight to build and Pakistan fought to stop.

Not because the engineering was flawed.
Not because the science was questionable.
But because politics turned it into a battlefield.

Provinces feared imaginary threats.
Politicians chased ethnic votes.
Bureaucrats chased kickbacks.
The establishment avoided confrontation.

And in the end, Pakistan sabotaged its own future.

No foreign power blocked Kalabagh.
Pakistan blocked Kalabagh.

A nation that kills its own lifeline cannot complain when others manage theirs.

The Hard Truth Pakistan Must Finally Face

Building dams will not stop India from diverting water.
But refusing to build dams guarantees Pakistan collapses even if India never touches a river again.

Pakistan’s water crisis is not imported.
It is manufactured locally — through indecision, political theater, and a refusal to prioritize national survival over provincial politics.

If Pakistan had built Kalabagh, Diamer‑Bhasha, and dozens of smaller dams, the country would not be begging the world to intervene today. It would be storing its own water, powering its own grid, and securing its own future.

The question is not,
“How will dams stop India?”

The real question is:
Why did Pakistan destroy the dams that could have saved it?

Pakistan’s water crisis isn’t destiny, it’s negligence.
The country needs around 1,500 dams because it currently stores less than 10% of the water it receives. The rest — tens of millions of acre‑feet is dumped into the Arabian Sea every year.

Meanwhile, international surveys show Thar is bone‑dry, Balochistan is chronically water‑scarce, and entire regions survive on tanker trucks and hope.

Pakistan doesn’t lack water.
Pakistan lacks storage, planning, and courage.

Build dams, build canals, divert water to Thar, Cholistan, and Balochistan or keep watching the country waste the water it desperately needs.

That’s the brutal truth.
 
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Every time the topic of Pakistan’s water crisis comes up, someone throws out the same defensive line:
“Tell me genius, how will building dams stop India from diverting water?”

It’s a familiar argument because it shifts the conversation away from Pakistan’s own responsibilities. It avoids looking inward. It avoids acknowledging that Pakistan’s water emergency is shaped not only by geopolitics, but by decades of internal paralysis, political ego, and a national inability to build the infrastructure every serious country considers essential.

India diverting water is one issue.
Pakistan wasting the water it already gets is another.
And pretending these two are the same is how Pakistan ended up here.

The Water We Lose Because We Never Learned to Save It

Pakistan receives enormous seasonal flows from the Indus system. Yet year after year, tens of millions of acre-feet rush straight into the Arabian Sea. Not because India diverted it. Not because the world conspired against Pakistan. But because Pakistan simply has nowhere to store it.

This is the part that hurts to say, Pakistan is water‑insecure even when India does nothing.

Dams don’t stop India.
Dams stop Pakistan from drowning in floods, starving in droughts, and collapsing under climate shocks.

They are not a geopolitical weapon.
They are a survival tool.

Diplomacy Without Infrastructure Is Just Performance

Pakistan often says it has “made its stance clear before the world.”
Statements may be necessary but they do not irrigate fields. They do not generate electricity. They do not store water for dry months.

India negotiates and builds dams.
Pakistan negotiates instead of building dams.

That is the difference between a functioning water strategy and a perpetual crisis.

Kalabagh: The Dam Pakistan Buried With Its Own Hands

If there is one symbol of Pakistan’s self-inflicted water disaster, it is the Kalabagh Dam.

Kalabagh was not just another project. It was the backbone Pakistan desperately needed:

• Thousands of megawatts of cheap electricity
• Massive water storage
• Flood protection
• Agricultural stability
• Billions saved annually

It was the kind of project countries fight to build and Pakistan fought to stop.

Not because the engineering was flawed.
Not because the science was questionable.
But because politics turned it into a battlefield.

Provinces feared imaginary threats.
Politicians chased ethnic votes.
Bureaucrats chased kickbacks.
The establishment avoided confrontation.

And in the end, Pakistan sabotaged its own future.

No foreign power blocked Kalabagh.
Pakistan blocked Kalabagh.

A nation that kills its own lifeline cannot complain when others manage theirs.

The Hard Truth Pakistan Must Finally Face

Building dams will not stop India from diverting water.
But refusing to build dams guarantees Pakistan collapses even if India never touches a river again.

Pakistan’s water crisis is not imported.
It is manufactured locally — through indecision, political theater, and a refusal to prioritize national survival over provincial politics.

If Pakistan had built Kalabagh, Diamer‑Bhasha, and dozens of smaller dams, the country would not be begging the world to intervene today. It would be storing its own water, powering its own grid, and securing its own future.

The question is not,
“How will dams stop India?”

The real question is:
Why did Pakistan destroy the dams that could have saved it?

Pakistan’s water crisis isn’t destiny, it’s negligence.
The country needs around 1,500 dams because it currently stores less than 10% of the water it receives. The rest — tens of millions of acre‑feet is dumped into the Arabian Sea every year.

Meanwhile, international surveys show Thar is bone‑dry, Balochistan is chronically water‑scarce, and entire regions survive on tanker trucks and hope.

Pakistan doesn’t lack water.
Pakistan lacks storage, planning, and courage.

Build dams, build canals, divert water to Thar, Cholistan, and Balochistan or keep watching the country waste the water it desperately needs.

That’s the brutal truth.

its not that simple. Indus delta need water to survive so indus water isn't wasted in sea. Don't let Indians who know nothing about indus tell you we waste indus water to sea.

Now coming back to India plans on Chenab. Its not just 1 tunnel, Pakistan could survive that. But India will not stop there will they? India could theoretically divert all water in winter from Chenab by building dams and tunnels. Pakistan have no site for big dam on Chenab.

Which is why the moment work start on first diversion tunnel, it will be act of war. And I again warn foreigners to leave India before that happen as no one will be safe in India from Kolkata to Tamil Nadu.
 
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its not that simple. Indus delta need water to survive so indus water isn't wasted in sea. Don't let Indians who know nothing about indus tell you we waste indus water to sea.

Now coming back to India plans on Chenab. Its not just 1 tunnel, Pakistan could survive that. But India will not stop there will they? India could theoretically divert all water in winter from Chenab by building dams and tunnels. Pakistan have no site for big dam on Chenab.

Which is why the moment work start on first diversion tunnel, it will be act of war. And I again warn foreigners to leave India before that happen as no one will be safe in India from Kolkata to Tamil Nadu.

Act of war or no act of war, the truth doesn’t change. People in Pakistan are dying of hunger, women are forced into desperate choices just to feed their children, and almost half the country still lacks clean drinking water. We refuse to build dams, canals, reservoirs, or modern infrastructure, yet we blame everyone else for our collapse. It’s embarrassing.

Pakistan couldn’t even build basic tunnels, that’s how low the bar has fallen.

And let’s say it plainly…. Karachi was deliberately destroyed just to inflate Lahore’s importance.
Instead of strengthening the country’s economic engine, they crippled it to protect their political comfort zone.

For 30 years, development budgets were poured into Lahore to make it look like Paris. After wasting billions, Lahore still can’t compete with mid‑tier Iranian cities, let alone global benchmarks.

This isn’t mismanagement, it’s policy-driven decay.

Hide our incompetence, and blame India, USA, Middle East and Israel.
Did India and Israel prevented us from building dams and infrastructure needed to store water? Maybe India and Israel forced us to go IMF 24 times in 68 years.
 
The best overview of thr problem till now. Nehrus deciet and dishonesty was so bad he hid the treaty from the parliament. Thankfully dveryone agrees the time is nigh for revisiting the iwt.

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The best overview of thr problem till now. Nehrus deciet and dishonesty was so bad he hid the treaty from the parliament. Thankfully dveryone agrees the time is nigh for revisiting the iwt.

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Nehru was always more concerned with preserving his personal image than prioritizing India's long term interests while showing little regard for the consequences his actions & personal choices could have on the nation's future.

Good discussion on IWT, also discussed was Nehru vision regarding IWT & how naive he was when dealing with Pakistan.

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Countries and companies involved in building dams, and that involves USA. Pakistan should act now. As a first step, we can request China to stop all possible water towards India.
In second step as dams will be empty, Pakistan should strike and break all dams.


Enjoy the info:

India’s massive push to build strategic hydroelectric infrastructure in the Union Territories of Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) and Ladakh relies heavily on international engineering, technology, and equipment expertise. While the apex execution is managed by Indian state-run companies like the National Hydroelectric Power Corporation (NHPC) and Chenab Valley Power Projects (CVPPPL), they collaborate with several prominent global tech heavyweights.

The foreign countries and companies actively involved in or helping build the hydro framework in these sensitive Himalayan regions include:

1. Germany​

Germany is a key technology partner in J&K’s hydro push. The German engineering giant Voith Hydro is heavily involved in the electro-mechanical aspects of the region's mega-projects:

  • Pakal Dul Hydroelectric Project (1,000 MW, J&K): Located on the Marusadar River (a tributary of the Chenab), Voith was awarded the massive contract to supply four 250 MW Francis turbines, generators, and auxiliary equipment.
  • Baglihar Hydroelectric Project (900 MW, J&K): Voith led the international consortium that delivered the primary power generation units across both stages for the state utility.
  • Salal Hydroelectric Power Station (690 MW, J&K): Voith has also been contracted to replace and modernize the turbine runners for the long-standing Salal units.

2. Austria (Andritz Hydro)​

Austria is another major player providing critical "water-to-wire" electro-mechanical infrastructure via the global tech group Andritz Hydro (operating heavily through its specialized Indian subsidiary):

  • Kiru Hydroelectric Project (624 MW, J&K): Andritz received the contract to completely design, manufacture, and supply the four massive turbines, generators, auxiliary mechanical systems, and the 400 kV Gas Insulated Switchgear (GIS) yard.

3. France / United States (GE Vernova / Formerly Alstom)​

French engineering (historically under Alstom) and American technology (via GE Power / GE Vernova, which acquired Alstom's power grid business) have formed the backbone of older and transitioning projects:

  • Ratle Hydroelectric Project (850 MW, J&K): Before restructuring into a joint venture with NHPC, the early electro-mechanical contracts for the Ratle project on the Chenab River were awarded to Alstom (France).
  • Dul Hasti Hydroelectric Plant (390 MW, J&K): Built on the Chenab River, this project was famously executed on a turnkey basis by a French consortium led by companies like CGEE Alsthom and Dumex, overcoming highly challenging geological conditions.

4. Japan (Green Hydrogen Initiatives in Ladakh)​

While traditional hydro focuses on dams and turbines, India is rapidly pivoting toward utilizing hydro and solar power to build a "Green Hydrogen" ecosystem in the ultra-cold, high-altitude Ladakh region.

  • Kargil and Leh Green Hydrogen Projects: NHPC has commissioned pilot hydrogen mobility stations powered by renewable sources. Major Japanese conglomerates (such as IHI Corporation and Mitsubishi) are working closely with Indian clean-energy companies (like the ACME Group) to scale value chains, sharing technology frameworks that will eventually integrate Ladakh's massive seasonal hydro-solar capacities into global green fuel networks.

Why Foreign Collaborations Matter Here​


Building dams and power tunnels in Jammu & Kashmir and Ladakh is notoriously difficult due to young, fragile Himalayan geology, high seismic activity, and heavy siltation (quartz erosion) in the Indus, Chenab, and Jhelum river basins. India utilizes these top-tier European and American firms specifically for their specialized silt-resistant turbine coatings and advanced underground tunnel-boring technologies, enabling the projects to run smoothly under harsh geo-political and environmental conditions.
 
Act of war or no act of war, the truth doesn’t change. People in Pakistan are dying of hunger, women are forced into desperate choices just to feed their children, and almost half the country still lacks clean drinking water. We refuse to build dams, canals, reservoirs, or modern infrastructure, yet we blame everyone else for our collapse. It’s embarrassing.

Pakistan couldn’t even build basic tunnels, that’s how low the bar has fallen.

And let’s say it plainly…. Karachi was deliberately destroyed just to inflate Lahore’s importance.
Instead of strengthening the country’s economic engine, they crippled it to protect their political comfort zone.

For 30 years, development budgets were poured into Lahore to make it look like Paris. After wasting billions, Lahore still can’t compete with mid‑tier Iranian cities, let alone global benchmarks.

This isn’t mismanagement, it’s policy-driven decay.

Hide our incompetence, and blame India, USA, Middle East and Israel.
Did India and Israel prevented us from building dams and infrastructure needed to store water? Maybe India and Israel forced us to go IMF 24 times in 68 years.

Not sure where you are going. Destroying Karachi? Obviously if city is infested with ethnic violence and terrorism then importance of Islamabad/Pindi/Lahore would increase for investors who want peaceful environment for their families and business. But you know what would benefit Punjab more? peaceful Karachi, Peshawar, Quetta. Destroyed Karachi/Gwadar only help UAE etc Not punjab. Punjab doesn't have port. Punjab will benefit from peaceful Gwadar/Karachi.

I know where you are going, the usual troop of punjabis being responsible for all the problems in Pakistan.
 

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