Pakistan is getting dry

[fitpOsitive]

You have CPEC. Bring tankers full of water from China.

Sure, after all you might also need water for your tandoor shop and Chai hotel in Karachi and Peshawar.

 

[Snake]

I posted a video together with this post. Haven't you seen it? I can post many such videos where locals say that it was full before. If you look at indus, it's merley a small stream passing by gates of Hyderabad.
I don't care what Babu log say, I am seeing situation on the ground.

Some guy isn't evidence. It isn't even guaranteed that's the Indus riverbed in the video.

The Indus fluctuates a lot because it's fed mainly by snowmelt. In the winter there's little snow melt so no flow. It also varies where a long the river you are looking. If you're looking at Hyderabad you will notice there is kotri barrage to the north which diverts the river in to two (Karachi, Phuleli). The Karachi canal feeds in to kheenjhar lake, which is a source of water for Karachi and more. If you take the barrage/canal reservoirs, Jan/Feb snowmelt and take a picture at the right spot the river can appear low.

The Indus has supported agriculture for 4,000 years along its banks, if there's something to worrying about the signs will be more noticable.

 

[S.Y.A]

Some guy isn't evidence. It isn't even guaranteed that's the Indus riverbed in the video.

The Indus fluctuates a lot because it's fed mainly by snowmelt. In the winter there's little snow melt so no flow. It also varies where a long the river you are looking. If you're looking at Hyderabad you will notice there is kotri barrage to the north which diverts the river in to two (Karachi, Phuleli). The Karachi canal feeds in to kheenjhar lake, which is a source of water for Karachi and more. If you take the barrage/canal reservoirs, Jan/Feb snowmelt and take a picture at the right spot the river can appear low.

The Indus has supported agriculture for 4,000 years along its banks, if there's something to worrying about the signs will be more noticable.

how will you account for increased usage due to urbanization, industrialization and general population growth even if the precipitation has remained constant?

 

[Snake]

how will you account for increased usage due to urbanization, industrialization and general population growth even if the precipitation has remained constant?

By lack of [change in] urbanization, industrialization. Has the been a noticable increase in either of those?

 

[S.Y.A]

By lack of [change in] urbanization, industrialization. Has the been a noticable increase in either of those?

yes. more factories have opened up since early 2000s (for example mobile assembly or automobile assemblers). more IT companies. more call centers, more universities etc. etc. and with that more people have moved to cities. or build bigger houses consuming more and more.

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/institutional-document/988626/pakistan-national-urban-assessment.pdf

"Pakistan’s population and urbanization challenges are increasing. Despite moderating in 2020 and 2021, Pakistan’s population growth averaged 2.55% annually in 2017–2023. This was marked by a 3.65% annual growth in urban population, nearly double that of the rural population. This brought Pakistan’s total population in 2023 to 241.5 million (16.3% more than in 2017), with an urban population of 93.8 million (approaching a fourfold increase since 1981). Recent projections place the country’s population at over 400 million by 2050, with Pakistan one of only eight countries likely to account for more than half of the world population increases until 2050. The pressure on cities mired in ever-increasing deficits in urban infrastructure and services will intensify, with urban population projected to climb to 99.4 million, or 40.7% of the country’s total, in 2030."

you have ignored general population growth.

 

[S.Y.A]

...and later than usual snowfall results in the snow melting too quickly to be of any use in summers.

rate at which glaciers are melting is also increasing, snowfall remaining constant wil have no effect: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgly8y1j12o

 

[fitpOsitive]

Some guy isn't evidence. It isn't even guaranteed that's the Indus riverbed in the video.

The Indus fluctuates a lot because it's fed mainly by snowmelt. In the winter there's little snow melt so no flow. It also varies where a long the river you are looking. If you're looking at Hyderabad you will notice there is kotri barrage to the north which diverts the river in to two (Karachi, Phuleli). The Karachi canal feeds in to kheenjhar lake, which is a source of water for Karachi and more. If you take the barrage/canal reservoirs, Jan/Feb snowmelt and take a picture at the right spot the river can appear low.

The Indus has supported agriculture for 4,000 years along its banks, if there's something to worrying about the signs will be more noticable.

Babu the thing is, we are lacking that data thing. On paper, or even on Google maps you will hardly feel any difference between 2012 pics and 2025 pics. Sindh River water flow fluctuates yes, but it's almost gone in recent years. Chenab and Satluj are also gone almost.
Now, if you visit the population along the rivers of Pakistan, you will hear the same stories. The posted video is from somewhere lower Punjab of Pakistan

 

[lightoftruth]

Hey Pak Army and establishment, will you please try to take Kashmir and Ladakh back so that we can stop India from making more dams on Pakistani waters? If China doesn't help then I think we should help those who will help us in this regards. India is becoming greener and greener, and Pakistan is drying up fast. If you will not act now, you might never be able to act.

Back ? when did you had it ? ….. you can spend some billions which can be used for water management.

seems more realistic and feasible, right?

India will anyway abrogate IWT , it is better you start preparing for even dried up country.

 

[Cryptonian]

Some things to note

AI Overview



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Yes, according to recent research, rainfall in Pakistan is increasing, particularly in the form of extreme monsoon events, with the most significant increase observed in the southern regions of the country, largely attributed to climate change and warming in the Middle East which enhances summer rainfall over Pakistan; this trend was most evident in the record-breaking rainfall experienced in 2022 causing devastating floods.
Key points about increasing rainfall in Pakistan:
Significant rise in recent decades:
Studies show a notable increase in regional rainfall over Pakistan and northwestern India, with some reports indicating a 46% rise in rainfall since 1979.
Intensified monsoon events:
While the overall rainfall is increasing, the most concerning aspect is the rise in intensity of monsoon rains, leading to more extreme flooding events.
2022 floods as an example:
The devastating floods in Pakistan during 2022 are considered a prime example of the extreme rainfall patterns linked to climate change, with significantly higher rainfall than previous years, particularly in the southern plains.
Climate change factors:
The increased rainfall is linked to warming temperatures in the Middle East which influence atmospheric patterns and drive more moisture towards Pakistan.


We need dam building to be faster then ever

Hm. So south Pakistan is where excess rainfall is , and that's where more small-mid dam construction is needed.

 

[S.Y.A]

No one who has halfway decent living in Pakistan gives a fuk about green card .....

yes, they do.

bureaucrats and fojis even avoid pissing off the US in their small presentations etc. so that they can get "invited" to a training tour over there. and actively seek out foreign nationality.

 

[mulj]

Pakistan has plenty of water, rainfall over the last few decades has increased in Pakistan

What Pakistan requires is dams, and water reservoirs

And to be fair Pakistan has built multiple dams and reservoirs but mostly up north, in Kashmir, Punjab and parts of KP

Jahilat and stupidity down south in Sindh a d balochistan and KP meant every dam project In those areas was opposed, or attacked or their was so much fassad that it was impossible

Take Kala Bagh as a example


As long as India does not break the rules and restrictions of the IWT, we can't complain and need to convince the dum dums in some of these areas for the need of dams and reservoirs

Needs forests also, that is the best water storage beside artificial storages.

 

[hussain0216]

Hm. So south Pakistan is where excess rainfall is , and that's where more small-mid dam construction is needed.

Yeah,, rainfall has been increasing and the North -mid of Pakistan is actually greener then ever now due to it and the same is happening down south

Everyone knows the importance of dams in Pakistan so they have tried to build them for decades, not just on the India or other rivers, their is importance In preserving rainwater, etc and as a situation it's entirely solve able with how much water Pakistan is getting

However some dumb fcuks tried to make dams a ethnic rights and land issue so for decades dam construction was politicized and dumb fcuk locals were told their ancient lands would be taken blah blah blah
So you have a lot of opposition to dam construction down south

What that meant was UP NORTH dam construction and reservoir building has been healthy and they as a result have decent water supply etc


And the clown areas in parts of Sindh and Balochistan are now complaining that their is no water
Their is actually plenty of water, but it needs to preserved and stored when it rains in excess or the monsoon or when river levels are high

 

[Suresh Naresh]

@fitpOsitive

Thought Pak had banned booze!

Regards

Ploy to divert attention from internal problems.

@onlinpunit @Paitoo @vsdoc @Sharma Ji @SoulSpokesman

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Its astounding how much Pakistanis blame their own incompetence and inability to run their country on others (notably India).

Damn!!!!

You beat me to it. I wanted to be first in this thread to make this point.

@agidest

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@hussain0216

Brother Hussain,

As long as India does not break the rules and restrictions of the IWT, we can't complain

Whoa! That is an extraordinary post, completely exonerating Indians on this. Considering your visceral antipathy to Hindus, wasn't expecting this at all!

Regards