Pakistan Military's Epic betrayal and Own Goal

[newb3e]

Bajwa overthrew IK at behest of Americans because the former was pursuing "aggressive neutrality" with respect to Russia and China

Jamedar braintrust thought this will usher in mena from heavens. Head duffer Bajwa begged for a state visit as a reward for services rendered, while here proceeds to bash China at an embassy event to his amreeki mai baaps. Tells them how he loves American sitcom particularly married with children and hates Chinese food.

Amreeki mai baaps kick the duffer jamedars in the nuts a la Lord Clive, tell them to get lost, no aid coming for Mir jaffers.

Now Chinese are pissed, duffers go back running to Chinese who repeat the American sentiment and tell Jamedar beggars to get lost.

In order to win back Chinese favor, duffers have now offered naval base at gawadar no strings attached.

they cant get cheap oil from iran what makes you think these western puppets witht heir haram ki daulat stashed in west will be allowed to provide military base to china in gawadar! not even fool would trust PA generals!

 

[CPTPLANET]

Perfectly put.

It amazes me how one general at the top with his extensions can hold up generational progress in an organization. These low iqs, ugly creatures push out competent officers for incompetent sycophants.

It’s like because Pakistanis in pakistan are timid and really self loathing with no ouce of respect. They’re sleazy and scummy at the same time. I mean look at the two fools here post news about more loans as it’s some sort of a celebration mortgaging your future instead getting your house in order.
I’ve said few harsh things about Pakistan on this forum for which I was banned by the lunatic Persian mod on the Iranian forum, and Pakistani mods putting me on some sort of watchlist.

That’s another thing, Pakistanis can take a beating from the world, but can’t stand if it’s another Pakistanis. They get drunk with power however little they have. Just my humble opinion

 

[Taimoor]

Bajwa overthrew IK at behest of Americans because the former was pursuing "aggressive neutrality" with respect to Russia and China

Jamedar braintrust thought this will usher in mena from heavens. Head duffer Bajwa begged for a state visit as a reward for services rendered, while here proceeds to bash China at an embassy event to his amreeki mai baaps. Tells them how he loves American sitcom particularly married with children and hates Chinese food.

Amreeki mai baaps kick the duffer jamedars in the nuts a la Lord Clive, tell them to get lost, no aid coming for Mir jaffers.

Now Chinese are pissed, duffers go back running to Chinese who repeat the American sentiment and tell Jamedar beggars to get lost.

In order to win back Chinese favor, duffers have now offered naval base at gawadar no strings attached.

You know the completely fked up thing about IK visit to Moscow that will make your blood boil?

Its not just that these rats in GHQ gave their approval to the visit, it was China who made all the efforts to bring Pakistan and Russia closer and that visit could only happen due to Chinese playing the middle man role.

Imagine Chinese position and how these 22 graders put China under the bus! All because of their petty personal interests in west!

There is no punishment which can do justice to their crimes.

 

[mythbuster]

We can start by not visibly siding with one side or another. Secondly, we can figure out how to get our economic house in order. All this before we think of who sits on the PM chair, because in reality, without addressing the fundamentals; without the oligarchs conceding power and control, it doesn’t matter who is in the PM chair.

Also not jumping into the middle of the new Cold War, between two superpowers, where we have nothing to gain, is just asking for more trouble. Also, apparently we won’t even get anything out of hosting a PLAN naval base, and will undoubtedly draw negative attention.

Next we can lay out what ANY elected official can actually do, considering what we need to do to rescue our economy, ON OUR OWN, and stabilize our economy once and for all.

Secret deals that sell out the nation will be the nation’s undoing. The people need a new social contract, not just in domestic affairs but in economics and foreign policy as well.

We need a complete change in how the government works; we need a “Third Republic”, the state reborn.

Thanks for a sensible post in this cesspool of maggots .

 

[silicon0000]

My take is somewhat different. If Khan had not been so stubborn with a bad team at his disposal that he was so proud of, the US and Pakistan could work something out. Bajwa did not handle the developing situation in a better way either.

And I am not sure how PLAN will solve problems of Pakistan as it might set the stage of Cold War in the region. The US will help India develop a very capable naval force and the US is also present in Diego Garcia. And we also need to think about how the US will treat Pakistan when PLAN takes control of Gwadar.

Well done on all fronts. Deep down many Pakistani are telling each other to leave the country.

Difficult to digest for many but that's the reality. whether people accept it or not, but things are like that. Unfortunately.

 

[SaadH]

they cant get cheap oil from iran what makes you think these western puppets witht heir haram ki daulat stashed in west will be allowed to provide military base to china in gawadar! not even fool would trust PA generals!

It just highlights the moronic and childish nature of the jamedar braintrust. What possessed them to calculate that amreeka bahadur will bail them out of their economic mess and to have done so at sacrificing your all-weather strategic protector in China only made it clear that there is no one in the GHQ operating with an ouce of brain matter and/or strategic foresight.

Not only have they been ditched by their amreeki overlords but now they've even infuriated the Chinese to the extent that the latter will never trust the jamedars and by extension Pakistan ever again...

Now they can offer all they want to the Chinese in a immature knee jerk pendulum swing back to the benefactor way, but Chinese have been fooled once, twice and now can't get fooled again. Chinese are now refusing to play ball and can easily acquire a better placed naval base on Iranian shores and in partnership with someone they know won't betray them midstream so that little johnny jamedar that have admin job at a neoliberal entity (Deloitte, McKinsey et al) in the west or their papa john empire and ranch houses in the west can flourish.

 

[SaadH]

Thanks for a sensible post in this cesspool of maggots .

The dearth of depth and lack of specifics and pertinent details in this above post perfectly reflects the lack of nuance and in-depth thinking in the jamedar headquarters. No wonder Pakistan has been in an irreversible decline since independence.

 

[maverick]

So true as to what you said

Bajwa overthrew IK at behest of Americans because the former was pursuing "aggressive neutrality" with respect to Russia and China

Jamedar braintrust thought this will usher in mena from heavens. Head duffer Bajwa begged for a state visit as a reward for services rendered, while here proceeds to bash China at an embassy event to his amreeki mai baaps. Tells them how he loves American sitcom particularly married with children and hates Chinese food.

Amreeki mai baaps kick the duffer jamedars in the nuts a la Lord Clive, tell them to get lost, no aid coming for Mir jaffers.

Now Chinese are pissed, duffers go back running to Chinese who repeat the American sentiment and tell Jamedar beggars to get lost.

In order to win back Chinese favor, duffers have now offered naval base at gawadar no strings attached.

not surprised, he is the biggest sellout in the history of Pakistan.. where does he live anyway?

 

[SaadH]

So true as to what you said

not surprised, he is the biggest sellout in the history of Pakistan.. where does he live anyway?

Has a farm house in Belgium

 

[hussain0216]

Our politicians and generals have the same weakness as the Arab sheiks, their money and investments are in the west

So on a personal basis, if things go bad and they are sanctioned they risk losing their investments

This is why the Arabs are so cucked and why our politicians and generals make decisions to safeguard their own interests over national interest


It's long been apparent that we need to move into the Chinese orbit and create lasting security relations with the rest of the Muslim world and to be fair that happening and happened, but these guys pulling these stunts is retarded beyond belief

 

[PakFactor]

Our politicians and generals have the same weakness as the Arab sheiks, their money and investments are in the west

So on a personal basis, if things go bad and they are sanctioned they risk losing their investments

This is why the Arabs are so cucked and why our politicians and generals make decisions to safeguard their own interests over national interest


It's long been apparent that we need to move into the Chinese orbit and create lasting security relations with the rest of the Muslim world and to be fair that happening and happened, but these guys pulling these stunts is retarded beyond belief

Remember, those with legal status, a green card, or citizenship do not risk losing assets. It's those without any status whose investments will be at risk. That's why many of them sent their kids head first.

There is an individual who I have known since I was little who operates a chain of hotels in the U.S., with a total insured value of properties amounting to $200,000,000 in assets. The guy is a Pakistani and often drunk, and in one of the meetings, he blurted out the names of several officers who have given him funds to invest in real estate in the States. Further research, when he was sober and I asked him, he said so and so's kids are living in the States, and partnership is with them. In the 1990s, this man was a nobody, and few connections changed him. He is semi-retired in Islamabad, with his adopted brother's children running the show.

** There are Indian military personnel who've sent their children to the states under the guise of studies, etc., and married local Indians and have invested in hotels, motels, gas stations, liquor stores, etc., from ill-gotten gains. So, no one is clean.