Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[kimjongun]

Entirely different weapons bro. You don’t fire quicksink at the targets that require a taimoor unless as some sort of decoy but even then whilst generally a useful weapon theres alternatives there as well. Azb 81 is a 250lb bomb bro it wont do anything to a warship considering quick sink is not a very precise weapon. Us uses mostly mk83 and mk84 for a reason. Taimoors main advantage is a sea sultan can fire a couple of them to a vessel as far as sri lanka and have minimal chance of getting intercepted in the process. Taimoors long range is a detterence factor. My main problem is i dont see navy acquiring them in any large numbers given budgetery constraints. Theoretically most of the r&d burden fell on spd and afsc when they made raad but i aiui navys just invested in too many systems. Getting an export customer for weapons like smash and taimoor can do wonders for lowering per unit prices and making production less artisian. But navy has done good job collaborating and turning primarily army (F2) and airforce (taimoor) weapons into anti ship weapons in such a short amount of time

i meant that , the guided version the one mentioned by @Ak01 , quite long ranged , can add even a delay warhead etc , You dont need to sink a ship you just need to "damage it enough" for eg knocking out its radars or propulsion system..

 

[Ibbi32]

i meant that , the guided version the one mentioned by @Ak01 , quite long ranged , can add even a delay warhead etc , You dont need to sink a ship you just need to "damage it enough" for eg knocking out its radars or propulsion system..

He was mentioning a decoy version that has extended range. Quicksink is in concept just a JDAM with an iir seeker but as with all reks even guided ones you can end up off target. You use a bigger warhead to make up for the difference and importantly you fire several of them at a single target. Quicksink is less of a low cost ASHM alternative as it is to using LGBs and dumb bomb. AShMs are expensive weapons and best saved for warships, quick sink is supposed to be a cost effective standoff weapon to destroy ships like tankers and fleet auxiliaries. Also theres no point trying to damage a warship but not sinking it unless you have babu non escalatory logic.

 

[Princeps]

Quicksink makes sense when you have B-2s and B-21s that can sneak in and drop a dozen of them at a time. The B-2 can carry 80 quicksinks btw. To achieve the same effect we'd need 2 entire squadrons of fighters.

 

[Ibbi32]

Quicksink makes sense when you have B-2s and B-21s that can sneak in and drop a dozen of them at a time. The B-2 can carry 80 quicksinks btw. To achieve the same effect we'd need 2 entire squadrons of fighters.

You dont need 80 quicksinks against IN and even if we dont have a dedicated bomber we have something like that ij sea sultan. If for example india tries to blockade karachi we can use MPAs with quicksinks to blow up indian tankers using strait of hormuz and bab-el-mandeb. Quicksinks are also useful in follow up strikes and failing to implement any other anti ship weapons are best anti ship alternative available on f-16s. But as @Ak01 said they are probably best used off of MALE ucavs

 

[Waz]

Dear Rawalpindi GHQ supersonic LACM please.

 

[falcon34]

Dear Rawalpindi GHQ supersonic LACM please.

Hell no too expensive, we can make good 1000km range Ballistic missiles, Screw the supersonic cruise missile.
1000+ Babur and Taimoor each will **** up hinduvta better than

 

[Ali_Baba]

Hell no too expensive, we can make good 1000km range Ballistic missiles, Screw the supersonic cruise missile.
1000+ Babur and Taimoor each will **** up hinduvta better than

Which platform can offer more accuracy? That should be the focus for where to focus !

We have seen how inaccurate ballistic missiles can be in the Iran/USA-Israel war.

We have seen Brahmos hit runsway with accuracy at the Saraghoda airbase.

I would vote for more Supersonic LACM for the reason of accuracy alone based on data to date.

 

[kimjongun]

Which platform can offer more accuracy? That should be the focus for where to focus !

We have seen how inaccurate ballistic missiles can be in the Iran/USA-Israel war.

We have seen Brahmos hit runsway with accuracy at the Saraghoda airbase.

I would vote for more Supersonic LACM for the reason of accuracy alone based on data to date.

wanna see accuracy of BMs??

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This is what happens when you use high quality fiber optic gyroscopes and the top of the line servos , gimbals propellent and what not , indeed a very good system

 

[Waz]

Hell no too expensive, we can make good 1000km range Ballistic missiles, Screw the supersonic cruise missile.
1000+ Babur and Taimoor each will **** up hinduvta better than

An array is better than throwing your eggs in one basket. They'll have an easier time intercepting just ballistic misisles.

 

[kimjongun]

An array is better than throwing your eggs in one basket. They'll have an easier time intercepting just ballistic misisles.

I think after the taimoor , the PAF should follow the route of a dedicated ALBM except the odd 50 Cm400akgs , go towards china or just do somethings to make one at home

 

[Ak01]

sam and naval missile test in next few days

 

[Toxic]

sam and naval missile test in next few days

Is it CAMM ER?

 

[Ak01]

Is it CAMM ER?

not sure, but we are due a camm missile test at some point

 

[Princeps]

I think after the taimoor , the PAF should follow the route of a dedicated ALBM except the odd 50 Cm400akgs , go towards china or just do somethings to make one at home

The thing is, Jeffs can't carry anything bigger than CM-400, so if you want something like Air LORA, you need to be able to integrate with it F-16s. If Turkey can do it maybe so can we.

 

[falcon34]

sam and naval missile test in next few days

What missile it could be apart from Taimoor and Smash?.