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[RealNapster]

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Turks are unveiling icbm and gazap warheads while Pakistanis are busy with giving new names to babar missile and those phuss patakha warheads

Just a question, what is the business case (logic) for an ICBM when you dont have a nuclear warhead ?

 

[safriz]

Just a question, what is the business case (logic) for an ICBM when you dont have a nuclear warhead ?

Who knows ?
Could have a deeper meaning

 

[Saifullah]

Pakistan has strategic warheads of around 700kg weight, and sub strategic warheads of lighter weights. That being a level above tactical battlefield warheads .
Abdali is for carrying sub strategic yield nuclear warheads.

What’s the difference between strategic and sub strategic nuclear warheads? Sub strategic is 5-15kt?

 

[RocketLaw]

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Turks are unveiling icbm and gazap warheads while Pakistanis are busy with giving new names to babar missile and those phuss patakha warheads

Turkey ($1.64 Trillion Economy) is pretty much advanced and progress faster, dang!

Impressive high quality

 

[safriz]

What’s the difference between strategic and sub strategic nuclear warheads? Sub strategic is 5-15kt?

Same as the difference between 4th generation fighter jet and 4++ and 4.5 generation and 5th.
Meaning nothing too specific, just a ballpark range .

Overall concensus being what you wrote. But neither Pakistan, nor India ever specified the actual yields of their nuclear warheads.

 

[ThoroughPro]

Just a question, what is the business case (logic) for an ICBM when you dont have a nuclear warhead ?

Gazap is non-nuclear warhead with nuclear level devastation minus the radiation. I would really love to see Pak missiles with Gazap warheads to take out indian air bases, ports, and infantry garrisons

 

[hasssanali8998]

Gazap is non-nuclear warhead with nuclear level devastation

lmfao , lets not compare a chemical reaction to a nuclear one ( the whole thing about e=mc^2)
gazap is just a thermobaric bomb

I would really love to see Pak missiles with Gazap warheads to take out indian air bases, ports, and infantry garrisons

yes , we probably will see either gazap or another thermobaric equivalent in our inventory .
i hope we make our own or get local production

 

[RealNapster]

Gazap is non-nuclear warhead with nuclear level devastation minus the radiation. I would really love to see Pak missiles with Gazap warheads to take out indian air bases, ports, and infantry garrisons

Turkey have good airforce, it can use its fighter jets to deliver gazap bomb it already have in 1500 km radius from its border. Then it can already load that on its current Tayfun and cynk missiles as well. I am just not sure who will turkey attack (and why) that required it to have a 6000 km range ballistic missile ?

1. It have no ambitions for nuclear weapons, so that is gone.

2. It also operate military base in Somalia which give it coverage of that whole region within 1000 km radius of its Somalian basis.

3. It have no issue with any country outside of Greece. Which is next door.

I am just unable to make sense of it.

 

[Engr. Mech]

Turkey have good airforce, it can use its fighter jets to deliver gazap bomb it already have in 1500 km radius from its border. Then it can already load that on its current Tayfun and cynk missiles as well. I am just not sure who will turkey attack (and why) that required it to have a 6000 km range ballistic missile ?

1. It have no ambitions for nuclear weapons, so that is gone.

2. It also operate military base in Somalia which give it coverage of that whole region within 1000 km radius of its Somalian basis.

3. It have no issue with any country outside of Greece. Which is next door.

I am just unable to make sense of it.

They have ottoman dreams. To provide defense shield to their allies in ME and Africa.

 

[kimjongun]

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Turks are unveiling icbm and gazap warheads while Pakistanis are busy with giving new names to babar missile and those phuss patakha warheads

They are just larpying , ICBMs are no jokes that anyone can develop , its a concept of an SLV . The world is shifting from liquids cuz they require fasterstime , better and more complex engines and storage places. @hyperman banned from the thread kher.
Even using the bunker busting concept is foolish , The koreas newest Hyunmoo missile (whose TEL was unveiled ) Is said to have a payload of 9 Tons while this untested PVC Pipe amobination merley 3-4 tons . Turks dont have Nukes , they dont have an enemy to use it against , they dont have the knowhow required to build icbms (far difficut then SRBM,IRBM) , they dont have the engines etc etc.
This is why i just consider their 'ICBM" just a political move to show
"oh ham pe bhi ICBM hai" .

 

[kimjongun]

Abdali carries heavier warhead, as nuclear capable.
Pakistan has strategic warheads of around 700kg weight, and sub strategic warheads of lighter weights. That being a level above tactical battlefield warheads .
Abdali is for carrying sub strategic yield nuclear warheads.
The missile itself changes shape three times.
This is the original Abdali.
View attachment 195909

Then there was Avdali 1, which had delta winglets for maneuvers and course correction. You need to zoom in for seeing the little winglets at the front .
View attachment 195910

There was a third version , which has the same shape as Abdali one, minus the top winglets , and an aero spike . Although the aero spike isn't visible in this picture. , But no front winglets . Original picture by Haseeb bhai , TheDeterrant .
View attachment 195912


Original range was 180 km.

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I read somewhere that abdali had been Phased out?

 

[HRK]

Abdali carries heavier warhead, as nuclear capable.
Pakistan has strategic warheads of around 700kg weight, and sub strategic warheads of lighter weights. That being a level above tactical battlefield warheads .
Abdali is for carrying sub strategic yield nuclear warheads.
The missile itself changes shape three times.
This is the original Abdali.
View attachment 195909

Then there was Avdali 1, which had delta winglets for maneuvers and course correction. You need to zoom in for seeing the little winglets at the front .
View attachment 195910

There was a third version , which has the same shape as Abdali one, minus the top winglets , and an aero spike . Although the aero spike isn't visible in this picture. , But no front winglets . Original picture by Haseeb bhai , TheDeterrant .
View attachment 195912


Original range was 180 km.

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Yes I know ...

 

[Ibbi32]

They are just larpying , ICBMs are no jokes that anyone can develop , its a concept of an SLV . The world is shifting from liquids cuz they require fasterstime , better and more complex engines and storage places. @hyperman banned from the thread kher.
Even using the bunker busting concept is foolish , The koreas newest Hyunmoo missile (whose TEL was unveiled ) Is said to have a payload of 9 Tons while this untested PVC Pipe amobination merley 3-4 tons . Turks dont have Nukes , they dont have an enemy to use it against , they dont have the knowhow required to build icbms (far difficut then SRBM,IRBM) , they dont have the engines etc etc.
This is why i just consider their 'ICBM" just a political move to show
"oh ham pe bhi ICBM hai" .

80% of turkish defense industry is just larping for clickbait articles. No other industry loves to shove it in your face just how great they are showcasing imaginary capabilities other than maybe the russians, but the russians actually do have other very real capabilities that are hidden. This is all just a publicity stunt and serves no actual purpose

 

[Toxic]

New NOTAM from May 7 to 8, the inland one seems to be 600KM across and the coastal one around a 150KMs over Somiani

 

[kimjongun]

New NOTAM from May 7 to 8, the inland one seems to be 600KM across and the coastal one around a 100KMs

View attachment 196039

I get a huge smile when ever there are NOTAMS announced , tbh could be babur test or something