Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[mythbuster]

Modern warfare is changing. I think it's time Army change its rules and make FSC as compulsory/minimum requirement for new recruits.

Decent percentage of new recruits are FA/FSC ... keep in mind , our literacy rates are very low... official figures aside, it's less than 50% .

 

[Mohid Afzal]

Decent percentage of new recruits are FA/FSC ... keep in mind , our literacy rates are very low... official figures aside, it's less than 50% .

not to mention the fact that we are still teaching outdated stuff in school and have taken 0 initiative to reform it.

 

[Bentley777]

Pakistan’s Indigenous Air‑Defense Development Programs

Program / Project	Origin Influence	Type / Tier	Range Goal	Status	Notes
FAAZ‑SL	Turkish SIPER architecture	Long‑range SAM (HIMADS)	150–200+ km	Early R&D	Uses SIPER‑style dual‑pulse motor, ARH seeker, networked guidance
Indigenous HIMADS (HQ‑9B‑inspired)	Chinese HQ‑9B / HQ‑9BE	Long‑range SAM	200–300 km	Concept / R&D	Intended as Pakistan’s first S‑400‑class indigenous system
Indigenous LoMADS	HQ‑16 / LY‑80 lineage	Medium‑range SAM	60–120 km	Development	Replaces LY‑80; uses local AESA radars
FAAZ	Turkish + Chinese mixed	Long‑range AAM / SAM derivative	150–200 km	Development	Air‑to‑air first; SAM variant feeds FAAZ‑SL
KARF‑1 AESA	Indigenous	GB radar	300+ km	Operational	Backbone sensor for LoMADS/HIMADS
KARF‑2 AESA	Indigenous	Long‑range AESA	450+ km	Development	Anti‑stealth tracking for future BMD
HQ‑19‑linked BMD track	Chinese	Exo‑atmospheric ABM	1000+ km (ballistic)	Negotiation	Would give Pakistan true ballistic‑missile defense
CLIAD Integration	Local + Chinese	Layered Army IADS	SHORAD → LOMADS	Expanding	Army’s integrated air‑defense backbone
PAF GBADS	Local + Chinese	Strategic IADS	LOMADS → HIMADS	Expanding	National‑level airspace denial network

Any development and progress in AD is a gem.

 

[Bilal]

Any development and progress in AD is a gem.

This AI is hallucinating.

 

[SaltFlats]

Pakistan’s Indigenous Air‑Defense Development Programs

دل کے بہلانے کو غالب یہ خیال اچھا ہے

 

[Corax]

Pakistan’s Indigenous Air‑Defense Development Programs

Program / Project	Origin Influence	Type / Tier	Range Goal	Status	Notes
FAAZ‑SL	Turkish SIPER architecture	Long‑range SAM (HIMADS)	150–200+ km	Early R&D	Uses SIPER‑style dual‑pulse motor, ARH seeker, networked guidance
Indigenous HIMADS (HQ‑9B‑inspired)	Chinese HQ‑9B / HQ‑9BE	Long‑range SAM	200–300 km	Concept / R&D	Intended as Pakistan’s first S‑400‑class indigenous system
Indigenous LoMADS	HQ‑16 / LY‑80 lineage	Medium‑range SAM	60–120 km	Development	Replaces LY‑80; uses local AESA radars
FAAZ	Turkish + Chinese mixed	Long‑range AAM / SAM derivative	150–200 km	Development	Air‑to‑air first; SAM variant feeds FAAZ‑SL
KARF‑1 AESA	Indigenous	GB radar	300+ km	Operational	Backbone sensor for LoMADS/HIMADS
KARF‑2 AESA	Indigenous	Long‑range AESA	450+ km	Development	Anti‑stealth tracking for future BMD
HQ‑19‑linked BMD track	Chinese	Exo‑atmospheric ABM	1000+ km (ballistic)	Negotiation	Would give Pakistan true ballistic‑missile defense
CLIAD Integration	Local + Chinese	Layered Army IADS	SHORAD → LOMADS	Expanding	Army’s integrated air‑defense backbone
PAF GBADS	Local + Chinese	Strategic IADS	LOMADS → HIMADS	Expanding	National‑level airspace denial network

How are these "indigenous" if they're all based on Turkish or Chinese tech?

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

How are these "indigenous" if they're all based on Turkish or Chinese tech?

By that standard, Pakistan’s 'indigenous' defense production, including the JF-17, missiles, and drones, would be disqualified, given their significant reliance on foreign technologies from countries like China, North Korea, Turkey, South Africa and France.

 

[Corax]

By that standard, Pakistan’s 'indigenous' defense production, including the JF-17, missiles, and drones, would be disqualified, given their significant reliance on foreign technologies from countries like China, North Korea, Turkey, South Africa and France.

Yes, you could argue that as well.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Yes, you could argue that as well.

Present your arguments and I will try my best to answer them.

 

[Corax]

Present your arguments and I will try my best to answer them.

You've answered your own question above.

 

[farooqbhai]

Pakistan’s Indigenous Air‑Defense Development Programs

Program / Project	Origin Influence	Type / Tier	Range Goal	Status	Notes
FAAZ‑SL	Turkish SIPER architecture	Long‑range SAM (HIMADS)	150–200+ km	Early R&D	Uses SIPER‑style dual‑pulse motor, ARH seeker, networked guidance
Indigenous HIMADS (HQ‑9B‑inspired)	Chinese HQ‑9B / HQ‑9BE	Long‑range SAM	200–300 km	Concept / R&D	Intended as Pakistan’s first S‑400‑class indigenous system
Indigenous LoMADS	HQ‑16 / LY‑80 lineage	Medium‑range SAM	60–120 km	Development	Replaces LY‑80; uses local AESA radars
FAAZ	Turkish + Chinese mixed	Long‑range AAM / SAM derivative	150–200 km	Development	Air‑to‑air first; SAM variant feeds FAAZ‑SL
KARF‑1 AESA	Indigenous	GB radar	300+ km	Operational	Backbone sensor for LoMADS/HIMADS
KARF‑2 AESA	Indigenous	Long‑range AESA	450+ km	Development	Anti‑stealth tracking for future BMD
HQ‑19‑linked BMD track	Chinese	Exo‑atmospheric ABM	1000+ km (ballistic)	Negotiation	Would give Pakistan true ballistic‑missile defense
CLIAD Integration	Local + Chinese	Layered Army IADS	SHORAD → LOMADS	Expanding	Army’s integrated air‑defense backbone
PAF GBADS	Local + Chinese	Strategic IADS	LOMADS → HIMADS	Expanding	National‑level airspace denial network

Pls stop posting ai slop

 

[mythbuster]

Pls stop posting ai slop

AI slop or not some of them are certainly in developmental pipeline...... you should know better than most unless you intentionally want to keep a low profile about it.

 

[farooqbhai]

AI slop or not some of them are certainly in developmental pipeline...... you should know better than most unless you intentionally want to keep a low profile about it.

Some systems in there are in dev but even info about them is ai slop, like Faaz-SL is SHORAD 25km but its range is listed 200km and its marked as HIMADs like bruh

 

[Samurai]

Pls stop posting ai slop

Someone needs to train that AI facts regarding Pakistani defence industry