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RAJPUT said:
How much do we have according to YOU?
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I don't know but there is a discussion in some thread of this forum perviously where most of people refering numbers even lower than 500.

Please note i am specifically talking about BMs.
 
SiliconByte (silicon0000) said:
I don't know but there is a discussion in some thread of this forum perviously where most of people refering numbers even lower than 500.

Please note i am specifically talking about BMs.
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That is a grossly understated amount of BMs currently in Pakistani possession. Is se zyada tou nuclear warheads leke jaane ke liye rakhe huwe hain mere bhai.
 
RAJPUT said:
That is a grossly understated amount of BMs currently in Pakistani possession. Is se zyada tou nuclear warheads leke jaane ke liye rakhe huwe hain mere bhai.
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Dear what you are saying is exactly my point in that discussion. I was also surprised by the disagreement, especially regarding the number exceeding 500. Some argue that Ballistic Missiles (BMs) are primarily intended for nuclear options and that their planned conventional role is limited. They contend that in a full-scale war, it would be challenging to ascertain the type of warhead a BM carries.
 
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At a minimum, Pakistan should have tested improved and enhanced versions of existing missiles. Something it has been doing in the past quite regularly. Ideally, Pakistan should have tested longer-range and, preferably, newer missiles. None of this has happened since the US sanctions imposed by the outgoing Biden administration. Instead, India has been busy testing newer missiles with impunity. Probably something papa America was hoping to achieve all along: providing India an edge over Pakistan in the missile development domain.

What does this say about missile development in Pakistan? It seems that US sanctions and warnings have had the desired effect. Unless Pakistan is covertly developing missiles, which it intends to test at a later, appropriate time. Another theory would be that the generals don't want to stir the hornet's nest and prefer to continue on the current trajectory of keeping a low profile. One thing is certain: the generals have decided to apply a balanced and non-aligned policy. This means not resort to actions that might anger papa America. I have a hunch that Pakistan won't be testing any missiles for the unforeseeable future. You will see and hear very little development and progress on the missile front. I hope I am wrong.
 
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Dalit said:
At a minimum, Pakistan should have at least tested improved and enhanced versions of existing missiles. Ideally Pakistan should have tested longer range and preferably newer missiles. None of this hasn't happened after US sanctions by the outgoing Biden administration. Instead India has been busy testing newer missiles with impunity. Probably something papa America was hoping to achieve. Provide India an edge over Pakistan in the missile development domain.

What does this say about missile development in Pakistan? It seems that US sanctions and warnings had the desired effect. Unless Pakistan is covertly developing missiles which it intends to test at a later appropriate time. Another theory would be that the generals don't want to stir the hornet's nest and rather continue on the current trajectory of keeping a low profile. One thing is certain, the generals have decided to apply a balanced and non-aligned policy. This means to do or rather not resort to actions which might anger papa America. I have a hunch that Pakistan won't be testing any missile for a very long time to come.
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The whole reason for the U.S sanctions is because we are developing and testing missiles

They are trying to slow us down and it will work, but the development won't stop

India has an advantage it can fund it's programs better and get western support and tech, but the world is changing and multiple poles of power are emerging and nations are collaborating
 
hussain0216 said:
The whole reason for the U.S sanctions is because we are developing and testing missiles

They are trying to slow us down and it will work, but the development won't stop

India has an advantage it can fund it's programs better and get western support and tech, but the world is changing and multiple poles of power are emerging and nations are collaborating
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Still, I believe the decision makers in Pakistan don't want to anger nor defy papa America. The Americans have made it very clear that anything beyond the Shaheen III will not be tolerated. The priority isn't missile development in Pakistan at this moment. The priority seems to have shifted to the economic front. Due to US approval, Pakistan is able to receive IMF loans. The decision makers don't want to disturb the inflow of IMF loans. By testing newer and more advanced missiles, the Americans will surely react. We can assume that Pakistani missile development is going to take a hit for the unforeseeable future. Again, I hope I am wrong, but the current pattern seems to suggest otherwise.

Pakistan last tested a missile in October 2023. This was a test launch of the Ababeel medium-range ballistic missile. That is a while ago.
 
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I'm curious if Pakistan has any air-to-surface missiles like the AGM65 and KH38
 
Quwa said:
Speaking of advancement, NESCOM's developing successors for the H-2 and H-4 via the AZB-81LR and Rasoob 250, respectively.
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I do wonder, depending on the age of H-2/H-4, if there is also value in integrating them into JF17C given how many PAF own. Of course, dependent on remaining service life left.
 
Ali_Baba said:
I do wonder, depending on the age of H-2/H-4, if there is also value in integrating them into JF17C given how many PAF own. Of course, dependent on remaining service life left.
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IMO... the H-2/H-4 will likely stay with the Mirage ROSE II/III and, ultimately, retire with them once these munitions reach end-of-life. They're good, but they're getting obsolete as they lack features like autonomous targeting and engagement. The direct data-link command system was good for its time, but South Asia will be a super dense EW environment and I'm not sure that system would work well in the long-run.

One of the goals behind the AZB-81LR and Rasoob 250 was to deliver autonomous targeting and, in the case of the AZB-81LR, autonomous operations.

For ex., AWC's working to incorporate swarming into the AZB-81LR and, in all likelihood, Rasoob 250 and Sarkash.

The JF-17C will likely adopt the AZB-81LR, AZB-83-TJ, Rasoob 250, Taimur, and Ra'ad-II. And, if the J-35AE materializes, the PAF might also equip them with the AZB-81LR and Rasoob 250.
 
This year, we did not see any further tests of new Arsenal in Missile category.
P282 is still pending while rumors about long range missiles are just under cover.
 
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