Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[Psyko70]

Prithvi based AD complete failed 8 of these interceptors fell in Amritsar, I am not sure due to our EWS or because of their own design failure.

Fatah 1 is small rocket Prithvi AD is for anti Ballistic missiles, isnt it ?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Fatah 1 is small rocket Prithvi AD is for anti Ballistic missiles, isnt it ?

Who told you? did I mentioned they used it for Fatah 1 but reportedly these interceptors fell in Amritsar.

 

[Psyko70]

Who told you? did I mentioned they used it for Fatah 1 but reportedly these interceptors fell in Amritsar.

I thought you meant f1 were shot down.

 

[Maarkhoor]

I thought you meant f1 were shot down.

I meant these Prithvi based interceptors lost control and fell like dead bird on Amritsar without hitting any target total 8 of them.

 

[Michael]

Does china have hypersonic cruise missiles? i know about YJ-12 and CM400AKG but what i wanted to know is a proper hypersonic cruise missile that is with speed more than mach 7 or 8?

This depends on how you define a “hypersonic cruise missile.”

To be precise, to date, there has been no successful air-breathing hypersonic missile in the world.

In related tests, the US has indeed achieved hypersonic speeds with its missiles. However, the duration of these speeds is too short to meet the requirements of actual combat.

Russia claims that the 3M22 Zircon, which uses a Scramjet, has already entered service. However, all the information we have received so far is based on official Russian announcements. We have not seen the actual missile, nor have we seen any related photos or videos. This is a matter that warrants serious skepticism.

India? Let the Indians continue to celebrate their BrahMos-II on PPT. We won't disturb them.

China has not disclosed any information on this matter. There is also no related information on Chinese social media.

According to information from Chinese social media, China has made many breakthroughs in the fields of pulse detonation engines and rotating detonation engines. These technologies will power China's future hypersonic vehicles.
China has already broken through Blackout zone communication technology. ------ On April 16, 2022, when the Shenzhou-13 manned spacecraft returned to Earth, we achieved uninterrupted communication between the control center and the astronauts throughout the entire mission (including when the spacecraft passed through the Blackout zone).

 

[Bentley777]

Yes this concept should be explored.
Great Concept, but Iranian design philosophy is really crude.Indian Anti Ship Hypersonic Ballistic Missile is centered around this concept and their design is very efficient.

Absolutely DO RND don't just copy paste thats it important to have total control on system.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

This depends on how you define a “hypersonic cruise missile.”

To be precise, to date, there has been no successful air-breathing hypersonic missile in the world.

In related tests, the US has indeed achieved hypersonic speeds with its missiles. However, the duration of these speeds is too short to meet the requirements of actual combat.

Russia claims that the 3M22 Zircon, which uses a Scramjet, has already entered service. However, all the information we have received so far is based on official Russian announcements. We have not seen the actual missile, nor have we seen any related photos or videos. This is a matter that warrants serious skepticism.

India? Let the Indians continue to celebrate their BrahMos-II on PPT. We won't disturb them.

China has not disclosed any information on this matter. There is also no related information on Chinese social media.

According to information from Chinese social media, China has made many breakthroughs in the fields of pulse detonation engines and rotating detonation engines. These technologies will power China's future hypersonic vehicles.
China has already broken through Blackout zone communication technology. ------ On April 16, 2022, when the Shenzhou-13 manned spacecraft returned to Earth, we achieved uninterrupted communication between the control center and the astronauts throughout the entire mission (including when the spacecraft passed through the Blackout zone).

Thank you for such a detail answer. I will study them with the help of deepseek or chatgpt to further enhance my knowledge. Thank you once again for taking time and answering my question

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Does china have hypersonic cruise missiles? i know about YJ-12 and CM400AKG but what i wanted to know is a proper hypersonic cruise missile that is with speed more than mach 7 or 8?

Under development. The best publicly known cruise missile they have is CJ-100 which can reach speeds upto Mach 5.

YJ-12 is a supersonic cruise missile that cruises at Mach 3. (Export name: CM-302, fitted on Pakistan's Type 054A/P ships)

CM-400AKG is an air-launched ballistic missile, not cruise. Was used by JF-17s recently.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Under development. The best publicly known cruise missile they have is CJ-100 which can reach speeds upto Mach 5.

YJ-12 is a supersonic cruise missile that cruises at Mach 3. (Export name: CM-302, fitted on Pakistan's Type 054A/P ships)

CM-400AKG is an air-launched ballistic missile, not cruise. Was used by JF-17s recently.

We need to develop atleast CJ-100 type of missiles for our own use with range reaching upto israel. plus we also need HGV hypersonic balistic missiles with similar range. Than we can relax a bit.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

We need to develop atleast CJ-100 type of missiles for our own use with range reaching upto israel. plus we also need HGV hypersonic balistic missiles with similar range. Than we can relax a bit.

That would need about 3000KM range minimum. You also need to remember since it's travelling over a long distance, over several airspaces, it will be detected early with a chance to  try and intercept it.

So speed paired with maneuverability will be key.

But yeah I think hypersonic glide vehicles are definitely going to be a point to pursue, though hypersonic cruise missiles are extremely difficult tech, very complex to master.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

That would need about 3000KM range minimum. You also need to remember since it's travelling over a long distance, over several airspaces, it will be detected early with a chance to  try and intercept it.

So speed paired with maneuverability will be key.

But yeah I think hypersonic glide vehicles are definitely going to be a point to pursue, though hypersonic cruise missiles are extremely difficult tech, very complex to master.

I think pakistan now seriously think to up its capability for the minimum deterence not just india/israel but also USA and Europe. That can be done with HGV ICBMs

 

[digitalSurgeon]

We need to develop atleast CJ-100 type of missiles for our own use with range reaching upto israel. plus we also need HGV hypersonic balistic missiles with similar range. Than we can relax a bit.

I think we need all the countries in range. Who know France or uk might go crazy. Or Germany selects one of its hiltery citizens to become the next facist.

What if the us war machines just choses pakistan as its next meal?

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

I think we need all the countries in range. Who know France or uk might go crazy. Or Germany selects one of its hiltery citizens to become the next facist.

What if the us war machines just choses pakistan as its next meal?

agree as i mentioned in my above post.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

I think pakistan now seriously think to up its capability for the minimum deterence not just india/israel but also USA and Europe. That can be done with HGV ICBMs

For political sensitivities, I don't think Pakistan will publicly flex it. Even if in the background it possesses the technology to produce/assemble it, just to draw away negative attention.

While officially it will cap the ranges by statements at ~3000km or a bit more.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

For political sensitivities, I don't think Pakistan will publicly flex it. Even if in the background it possesses the technology to produce/assemble it, just to draw away negative attention.

While officially it will cap the ranges by statements at ~3000km or a bit more.

why not complete the work and when everything is done and production is also done in numerous number than pakistan announce it for deterence