Pakistan nears $1.5 billion deal to supply weapons, jets to Sudan, sources say

[Blain2]

What's the difference between Karakoram-8 and Super Mashshaq? I thought they were both trainers?

SMQ is a turboprop aircraft used for basic (primary) flying training.

K-8 is our current Advanced Jet Trainer with a digital cockpit that allows for conversion to Jet training.

 

[RescueRanger]

What's the difference between Karakoram-8 and Super Mashshaq? I thought they were both trainers?

Super Mushshak is propeller driven trainer - a basic trainer - teaches pilots how to fly and flight fundamentals.

The K8 is an intermediate Jet trainer, has a turbo fan jet and is used to provide pilots with advanced training in maneuvers, plus the K8 can function as a light fighter, whereas the Mushshak cannot.

 

[Blain2]

sir are there more surprise here ?

I don't know any more beyond what is in the open sources. But this is Pakistan mining opportunities thanks to our cooperation with China. Credit for this goes to our Chinese friends just as much as our own efforts to highlight the defense portfolio and providing support and advisory to the buyers.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

..., plus the K8 can function as a light fighter, whereas the Mushshak cannot.

Are they ever used in combat? Are there armed versions with the PAF?

 

[hasssanali8998]

Considering that both these aircrafts after Chinese and Pakistan just assembles them.

 

[Toxic]

What's the difference between Karakoram-8 and Super Mashshaq? I thought they were both trainers?

Same way a mehran is different then a Corolla

 

[Blain2]

Are they ever used in combat? Are there armed versions with the PAF?

"Role and Use in the NAF (Nigeria):
The K-8 is a joint Chinese-Pakistani design intended primarily as an intermediate jet trainer but capable of also serving in a light attack capacity. The NAF received a number of these aircraft, and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) equipped them to fire unguided rockets for potential light attack missions."

Reality is that most Air Forces have to undertake a decent amount of work to refit the trainer aircraft for attack roles. And given they have other aircraft for strike and ground attack, it is only in extreme situations when faced with severe attrition, that those air forces may reconfigure the aircraft to the attack configuration.

 

[Ibbi32]

Same way a mehran is different then a Corolla

Proper comparison would probably be
Bike (mushaq) go kart (k-8) corrola (jf-17)

 

[Ibbi32]

Btw i thought Pakistan ended k-8 production a while ago are we still producing them?

 

[Thinking]

but but but......why are they all these countries not buying superior Indian offerings?

Yeah, ...indeed. India merely exported 2.8 billion USD worth of weapons...last year. Need to learn a lot.

 

[RescueRanger]

Are they ever used in combat? Are there armed versions with the PAF?

As Pakistan jointly manufactures this aircraft there is no reason to suspect otherwise.

Venezuelan KH-8 complete with complement of paylod of rocket pods and missiles.


Ghanaian K8 pictured here with an unguided bomb


The K8 and the Chinese export variant can both be armed with the PL-7 Air to Air Missile


The aircraft was seen in active combat in Myanmar:

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[RescueRanger]

Proper comparison would probably be
Bike (mushaq) go kart (k-8) corrola (jf-17)

Ahaha good one.

 

[RescueRanger]

Yeah, ...indeed. India merely exported 2.8 billion USD worth of weapons...last year. Need to learn a lot.

 

[Toxic]

Proper comparison would probably be
Bike (mushaq) go kart (k-8) corrola (jf-17)

Riding a bike doesn't teach you how to drive a car, Mehran for a lot
of Pakistanis (including me) is the car in which they learned to drive, Same way most PAF pilots initially learn to fly on the Mushak.

 

[Goenitz]

Yeah, ...indeed. India merely exported 2.8 billion USD worth of weapons...last year. Need to learn a lot.

Small munition, artillery shells or 1-2 ships? I remember buyers of rudhra and some other equipment returned thsoe!