Pakistan not among 5 nations announced to have committed troops for International Stabilisation Force in Gaza

[NA71]

Pakistan's UN Ambassadors were vocally, aggressively supporting the Gazans during the Israel-Gaza conflict to the point where the Palestinian UN delegation themselves praised the Pakistani support. Then just yesterday, sitting near the Israeli envoy to the Board of Peace, the Pakistani PM was clear in supporting the Palestinians, as Trump himself was listening to him.
And so if Pakistanis are doing that in high profile international venues, why to stop any pro Palestinian demonstrations inside Pakistan?!! Does that make any sense?? There had been many pro Palestinian large demonstrations in Pakistan during the Gaza war, even Pepsi has been boycotted by many Pakistanis. But the shameful--the shameful propaganda by the Imran fanbois over some limited restrictions here and there is extremely distasteful and ugly.
I have never seen a lying, evil cult like the Imran cult in Pakistan's history. Never. These people are so manipulative and yet led by a total idiot, which lends credence to the theories that some outside forces are behind them, otherwise their own intellectual capacity for propaganda should be less powerful.

What is "munafiqat" .....your words are not as same as what you do....

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[El Sidd]

Pretty slimy there sid!
Palestinians paid for ones who chose to exclude and bypass them on the table in granting them recognition and normalization of ties! They were failed by the ones outside before they jumped under the gun... all the while collective stood firmly behind its colony and Muslims silent and mum!

AND IT ISN'T PALESTINIANS but your own likudnik who not only wants one state between river and the sea but way past that... dumb dotards like Mahmoud Abbas are merely bench warmers. Palestinians didn't resign... they have literally no one holding their back!
And you think Pakistan sends its troops to aid Gazans? Pakistan cannot help itself in Gaza!!! Take it to the bank... cannot return fire on zion and prosecute anyone who doesn't hold their end of the bargain... a hired gun for the Riviera. So, save those tears as if you care!

So silent spectators should be our choice?

 

[Blain2]

To show the people in Gaza and the world we’re with them.

People of Gaza know Pakistan supports them.

Local demonstrations are for self-venting with nothing of consequence happening on the ground. As the Urdu idiom goes "Kaan per joon nahi raingti" (aka falling on deaf ears) that is the case of Americans/Israelis when it comes to our demonstrations.

The reality is that Pakistan, like countless other Muslim and EU countries, is helpless to do anything material in the face of the US hyper-power that defends its zionist project.

If our national power is to be used materially in support of Palestine, expect massive losses. Rest is all bakvas talk.

Expect losses like those that Iran has taken and is about to take. Expect kinetic actions and expect massive sanctions on all aspects of Pakistani economy. Given Pakistan has never faced anything of this type, talk is cheap.

So all those yelling and screaming about "Pakistan" selling out have NOTHING, absolutely nothing of value to offer.

Let me go further, I challenge these very same people to give me one cogent, sensible proposal that Pakistan can take on to rid Israeli occupation of Palestine. Empty rhetoric is what our emotional awam can offer (I understand and share that sentiment wholeheartedly but I am also circumspect about the reality on the ground). The ones who bleat the loudest would be the first to throw in the towel and run when Pakistan faces the ramifications of taking on the US/Israel aggressively. When we do that, do realize that IIOK Is gone and quite likely, Pakistan too will be exploited and divided. That is the current Zionist strategy in the ME and Pakistan will be the next in line after Iran.

If it's just empty speeches at the UN that you want and reminisce about IK for, our UN mission has been doing that for years. It has not done a darn thing for the Palestinians.

Now if People wanted to hear an Ertugral genre wishful scenario from me, for that you would have to be a betting man and so far there are none in the Muslim world. That bet would require either Pakistan gaining some fantastical economic incentive that Americans really need or funding its national military power to become an expeditionary force. It would require Pakistan to operate near Gaza, take on Amreeki/Israeli (and I can guarantee the Hanud would not be sitting back) might simultaneously. Allies? None will step forward because they would not want their nation destroyed. Turkey/KSA etc. will all offer some words of support but like the day of judgment will resort to "Nafsi, nafsi..."

This unfortunately is the reality that faces us given the lack of a credible power amongst the Muslim nations.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

So silent spectators should be our choice?

Pounce when opportunity presents but not by controlled access... granted by the very oppressor and gatekeeper!

Pakistan owes nothing to zion, period! When opportunity presents and IT WILL get in to set the clock straight... not now... not this way and certainly not for zion.

For two years Gaza took unimaginable pounding, they did not bend the knee... respect that! They didn't lose their home for New York developers to build a Riviera and put them in a cage!

 

[El Sidd]

Pounce when opportunity presents but not by controlled access... granted by the very oppressor and gatekeeper!

Pakistan owes nothing to zion, period! When opportunity presents and IT WILL get in to set the clock straight... not now... not this way and certainly not for zion.

For two years Gaza took unimaginable pounding, they did not bend the knee... respect that! They didn't lose their home for New York developers to build a Riviera and put them in a cage!

Care to elaborate how this opportunity would come about?

 

[Saifullah]

People of Gaza know Pakistan supports them.

Local demonstrations are for self-venting with nothing of consequence happening on the ground. As the Urdu idiom goes "Kaan per joon nahi raingti" (aka falling on deaf ears) that is the case of Americans/Israelis when it comes to our demonstrations.

The reality is that Pakistan, like countless other Muslim and EU countries, is helpless to do anything material in the face of the US hyper-power that defends its zionist project.

If our national power is to be used materially in support of Palestine, expect massive losses. Rest is all bakvas talk.

Expect losses like those that Iran has taken and is about to take. Expect kinetic actions and expect massive sanctions on all aspects of Pakistani economy. Given Pakistan has never faced anything of this type, talk is cheap.

On the authority of Abu Sa`eed al-Khudree (may Allah be pleased with him) who said:
I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart — and that is the weakest of faith.” [Sahih Muslim]

If these demonstrations don’t break any laws and don’t harm anyone, what’s the harm in letting them happen? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support troubling the lives of average civilians but some of these demonstrators don’t cause anyone harm. Also, it’s their democratic right since Pakistan is a democratic country. If someone thinks going to these demonstrations is the most they can realistically do to resist Zionist aggression, let them as long as they don’t break any laws.

So all those yelling and screaming about "Pakistan" selling out have NOTHING, absolutely nothing of value to offer.

I never said Pakistan was selling out BUT IF you strip Pakistani citizens of their democratic right to demonstrate in support of Gaza while they don’t break any laws, that would be selling out to Zionists.

Let me go further, I challenge these very same people to give me one cogent, sensible proposal that Pakistan can take on to rid Israeli occupation of Palestine. Empty rhetoric is what our emotional awam can offer (I understand and share that sentiment wholeheartedly but I am also circumspect about the reality on the ground). The ones who bleat the loudest would be the first to throw in the towel and run when Pakistan faces the ramifications of taking on the US/Israel aggressively. When we do that, do realize that IIOK Is gone and quite likely, Pakistan too will be exploited and divided. That is the current Zionist strategy in the ME and Pakistan will be the next in line after Iran.

The need of the hour is unity among Muslim countries. I think Pakistan, Saudi and Turkey are in the right direction atm regarding that. More Muslim countries can jointly resist Zionist pressure and work on developing indigenous capabilities.

If it's just empty speeches at the UN that you want and reminisce about IK for, our UN mission has been doing that for years. It has not done a darn thing for the Palestinians.

It’s building pressure. Ofc speeches alone won’t work. But it’s one aspect of resisting as much as possible.

Now if People wanted to hear an Ertugral genre wishful scenario from me, for that you would have to be a betting man and so far there are none in the Muslim world. That bet would require either Pakistan gaining some fantastical economic incentive that Americans really need or funding its national military power to become an expeditionary force. It would require Pakistan to operate near Gaza, take on Amreeki/Israeli (and I can guarantee the Hanud would not be sitting back) might simultaneously. Allies? None will step forward because they would not want their nation destroyed. Turkey/KSA etc. will all offer some words of support but like the day of judgment will resort to "Nafsi, nafsi..."

This unfortunately is the reality that faces us given the lack of a credible power amongst the Muslim nations.

Alhamdulillah, Muslims don’t lose hope. Allah is the best of planners. Allah has promised us victory in the end. Muslims came out on top against many superpowers previously. As Muslims we should do as much as we can in our power and leave the rest to Allah. There’s a difference between becoming complicit vs looking out for your people. Countries like uae are complicit and if Pakistan takes that route it will make them complicit. The current hate for Israel and polarization in American society is like never before. The fall of USA could even be internally caused. All Muslims countries like Pakistan need to do is not become sellouts and side with israel. Something like sending troops to Gaza would mean entering war against Muslims of Gaza and being complicit in the genocide. Doesn’t matter how much USA or israel pressures for that. If death is the only option then at least have an honourable death. Sending troops to Gaza to do IDF’s duties of killing Gazans would be enough to take the soldiers out the fold of Islam and the country.

Resist as much as possible and avoid being complicit. That’s all that’s needed for Muslim countries.

 

[Indos]

On the authority of Abu Sa`eed al-Khudree (may Allah be pleased with him) who said:
I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart — and that is the weakest of faith.” [Sahih Muslim]

If these demonstrations don’t break any laws and don’t harm anyone, what’s the harm in letting them happen? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support troubling the lives of average civilians but some of these demonstrators don’t cause anyone harm. Also, it’s their democratic right since Pakistan is a democratic country. If someone thinks going to these demonstrations is the most they can realistically do to resist Zionist aggression, let them as long as they don’t break any laws.

I never said Pakistan was selling out BUT IF you strip Pakistani citizens of their democratic right to demonstrate in support of Gaza while they don’t break any laws, that would be selling out to Zionists.

The need of the hour is unity among Muslim countries. I think Pakistan, Saudi and Turkey are in the right direction atm regarding that. More Muslim countries can jointly resist Zionist pressure and work on developing indigenous capabilities.

It’s building pressure. Ofc speeches alone won’t work. But it’s one aspect of resisting as much as possible.

Alhamdulillah, Muslims don’t lose hope. Allah is the best of planners. Allah has promised us victory in the end. Muslims came out on top against many superpowers previously. As Muslims we should do as much as we can in our power and leave the rest to Allah. There’s a difference between becoming complicit vs looking out for your people. Countries like uae are complicit and if Pakistan takes that route it will make them complicit. The current hate for Israel and polarization in American society is like never before. The fall of USA could even be internally caused. All Muslims countries like Pakistan need to do is not become sellouts and side with israel. Something like sending troops to Gaza would mean entering war against Muslims of Gaza and being complicit in the genocide. Doesn’t matter how much USA or israel pressures for that. If death is the only option then at least have an honourable death. Sending troops to Gaza to do IDF’s duties of killing Gazans would be enough to take the soldiers out the fold of Islam and the country.

Resist as much as possible and avoid being complicit. That’s all that’s needed for Muslim countries.

The troops there is not there to kill Muslim or even dissarmed Hamas. Hamas should do it first then the next step on the deal is taken.

You talk lot about Islam but in other hand badmouthing other Muslim who want to bring troops there so that Gaza will be secured from daily killing by Israel troops and reconstruction can be started

Dont do Fitnah since in Islam it is greater sin than killing an innocent

Now learn before speaking at your safe place in UK

 

[Cash gk]

The troops there is not there to kill Muslim or even dissarmed Hamas. Hamas should do it first then the next step on the deal is taken.

You talk lot about Islam but in other hand badmouthing other Muslim who want to bring troops there so that Gaza will be secured from daily killing by Israel troops and reconstruction can be started

Dont do Fitnah since in Islam it is greater than killing an innocent

Now learn before speaking at your safe place in UK

is there anyone know why“Roseville Hotel is part of this deal and that deal went to Trump's family via some American government service

 

[Saifullah]

The troops there is not there to kill Muslim or even dissarmed Hamas. Hamas should do it first then the next step on the deal is taken.

You talk lot about Islam but in other hand badmouthing other Muslim who want to bring troops there so that Gaza will be secured from daily killing by Israel troops and reconstruction can be started

Dont do Fitnah since in Islam it is greater than killing an innocent

Now learn before speaking at your safe place in UK

I said what I said. If you feel hurt you shouldn’t have replied to me. It doesn’t take a genius to know what those troops in Gaza will do. Jihad is FARD in Palestine according to every single scholar on the planet. When your troops land in Gaza you can’t use the excuse you were in Indonesia.
What happens if these “peacekeepers” and Hamas get into a firefight? What happens if any of these “peacekeepers” die in Gaza fighting Hamas?
I’m not badmouthing Islam rather you’re ignorant on Islamic rulings.

Any of these “peacekeepers” who fight resistance in Gaza become murtad and shouldn’t be buried with Muslims or given a janaza even.

 

[Saifullah]

Now learn before speaking at your safe place in UK

I rather live in UK (don’t live there) than be a blind nationalist and complicit in genocide.

 

[Saifullah]

Will these so called “peacekeepers” fight Zionist soldiers who violate the ceasefire?

 

[Indos]

I said what I said. If you feel hurt you shouldn’t have replied to me. It doesn’t take a genius to know what those troops in Gaza will do. Jihad is FARD in Palestine according to every single scholar on the planet. When your troops land in Gaza you can’t use the excuse you were in Indonesia.
What happens if these “peacekeepers” and Hamas get into a firefight? What happens if any of these “peacekeepers” die in Gaza fighting Hamas?
I’m not badmouthing Islam rather you’re ignorant on Islamic rulings.

Any of these “peacekeepers” who fight resistance in Gaza become murtad and shouldn’t be buried with Muslims or given a janaza even.

Real believer will be careful on their mouth, understanding the greater consequence of it in Islam, particularly when it comes to accusing other person or group of people.

 

[Meengla]

The troops there is not there to kill Muslim or even dissarmed Hamas. Hamas should do it first then the next step on the deal is taken.
You talk lot about Islam but in other hand badmouthing other Muslim who want to bring troops there so that Gaza will be secured from daily killing by Israel troops and reconstruction can be started
Dont do Fitnah since in Islam it is greater sin than killing an innocent
Now learn before speaking at your safe place in UK

You and other non Pakistanis here need to recognize a certain narrative being parroted by mostly the expat Pakistanis is due to Pakistan's domestic politics and these people act reflexively against anything the govt of Pakistan does. Unfortunately, these people are loudmouths, being supported by the Indians, Afghans and every conceivable enemy of Pakistan and thus they remain relevant.

 

[Cash gk]

is there anyone know why“Roseville Hotel is part of this deal and that deal went to Trump's family via some American government service

I think mouthpieces do not have answer for this question

 

[HAIDER]

Deployment against Pakistan's national policy and against UN mandate. Trump and Israel gathered a few poor 3rd countries to execute their goal. According to one Israeli journalist...let dog kill the dog, and we pay for it.
While deployment of these contignets start, the Israeli army will focus on the complete annexation of the West Bank. Stupid mulim countries for a few dollars more killing their own brothers.....