Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

Are all these Iran suckers out of their mind? Iranians have a war with Israel and America. Israelis, who actually started this war in the first place by attacking Iran and killing its leadership, are watching Iran getting hammered by Americans. Israel is providing active support to the US forces in these attacks. And yet, these retard Iranians are attacking Gulfi Muslims with silly and retarded claims. These fools have no balls to send their missiles on to Israel or attacking directly Americans. I am just trying to expose the lies and hypocrisy of Iranian mullahs, for which Iranians are notoriously infamous, during this war.

The stupidity of Iranians is quite evident from their reckless actions against the global trade. Iran was already a pariah state for international community since 1979. Now Iranians maliciously trying to choke the whole world in their fight against America? Will Chinese, Europeans, Japanese, and rest of the world allow these fanatic Iranian mullahs to play with the national interests of all other countries?

I think Iran will end up to be in a worse position than just being a pariah and rogue state. International community would rather prefer to put this rogue state into a hell hole rather than allowing them to become a grave threat to the global trade and international peace and security. The terrorist Irani proxies in Syria and Lebanon have already been largely neutralized and I am sure Yemeni Houthis are the next in line.
I don't disagree with your general prognosis of what the impact of Iran's policy might be. However, the reason they are picking on the weakest states is not because they are retarded, but because they do not have the capacity or the desire to face the consequences of attacking the stronger states.
 
China would certainly like the region not dragged into further turmoil. However, Chinese are unlikely to intervene in the war in Iran's support. Not at all. Chine's only strategic interest in Iran is to keep its oil inflow uninterrupted. Other than that, Iran has no strategic significance for Chine. If Straight of Hormuz gets closed due to Iranian stupidity and arrogance, that will not go smoothly with Chinese either.
You’re mistaken; China has no indispensable need for Iran.
For one thing, the global oil market is currently oversupplied.
For another, Iranian crude only makes up roughly 13 percent of China’s total oil imports.
At present, Russia, the United States, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are all urging China to boost its oil imports from them.
Furthermore, China boasts ample petroleum reserves. Even if it halted all crude imports effective immediately, its domestic oil output and commercial stockpiles could sustain domestic demand for at least half a year.
Lastly, China is rapidly scaling up the adoption of new energy sources, which means its demand for oil will only keep declining in the future
High oil prices will harm China's interests, and China will make every effort to stabilize oil prices
 
So if India attacks Pakistan again. Will Saudi join in next time?

India attacks Pakistan every day through proxies. There was a proxy attack on the day government announced this arrangement with Saudi Arabia. The arrangement does not seem conditional nor country specific either.

Anyone can attack Pakistan. They just have to live with the consequences of that free will.
 
India attacks Pakistan every day through proxies. There was a proxy attack on the day government announced this arrangement with Saudi Arabia. The arrangement does not seem conditional nor country specific either.

Anyone can attack Pakistan. They just have to live with the consequences of that free will.
As long as the agreement is not a one way road where saudi never has to send troops anywhere.

Hope that if India bombs Pakistan bases next time, Saudi can send some of their jet fighters also.
 
As long as the agreement is not a one way road where saudi never has to send troops anywhere.

Hope that if India bombs Pakistan bases next time, Saudi can send some of their jet fighters also.

Why would India risk a war with Saudi Arabia?
 
You’re mistaken; China has no indispensable need for Iran.
For one thing, the global oil market is currently oversupplied.
For another, Iranian crude only makes up roughly 13 percent of China’s total oil imports.
At present, Russia, the United States, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are all urging China to boost its oil imports from them.
Furthermore, China boasts ample petroleum reserves. Even if it halted all crude imports effective immediately, its domestic oil output and commercial stockpiles could sustain domestic demand for at least half a year.
Lastly, China is rapidly scaling up the adoption of new energy sources, which means its demand for oil will only keep declining in the future
High oil prices will harm China's interests, and China will make every effort to stabilize oil prices
You are right in saying that other countries can boost their oil production to meet Chinese demand too. However, only if the shipping lanes remain operational. Moreover, every country follows its own interests. If Chinese could get Irani crude roughly 40% cheaper, why would they abandon Irani supplies by switching over to relatively more expensive supplies from other countries?
 
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I don't disagree with your general prognosis of what the impact of Iran's policy might be. However, the reason they are picking on the weakest states is not because they are retarded, but because they do not have the capacity or the desire to face the consequences of attacking the stronger states.
But attacking other Muslim/Arab states and destroying their infrastructure wouldn't save Iranian assh from getting hammered even more harshly by the US and Israel. Rather, quite contrary, weakening Muslim countries is equivalent to indirectly strengthening Zionists, bringing the realization of greater Israel even closer, and if that happens, Iranian mullahs would be facing even stronger Israeli state. I called the foolish Irani mullahs retards in that sense.
 
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You are right in saying that other countries can boost their oil production to meet Chinese demand too. However, only if the shipping lanes remain operational. Moreover, every country follows its own interests. If Chinese could get Irani crude roughly 40% cheaper, why would they abandon Irani supplies by switching over to relatively more expensive supplies from other countries?

If the strait is sealed off, only Iraq, Bahrain, Kuwait and Iran will be affected. Saudi Arabia and the UAE have hit all-time production highs with their spare transit passages. In addition, China’s oil suppliers are highly diversified.
Therefore, China has no need for Iran; rather, Iran needs China

Apart from China, no nation dares to import Iranian oil,Not even Europe — the bloc Iran fawns over nonstop — nor India, its ally; none of these countries dare to import Iranian crude oil.
India is Iran’s biggest allies.
 
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But attacking other Muslim/Arab states and destroying their infrastructure wouldn't save Iranian assh from getting hammered even more harshly by the US and Israel. Rather, quite contrary, weakening Muslim countries is equivalent to indirectly strengthening Zionists, bringing the realization of greater Israel even closer, and if that happens, Iranian mullahs would be facing even stronger Israeli state. I called the foolish Irani mullahs retards in that sense.
unfortunately you failed to mention why you called Muslim/Arab countries in the first place, allow their bases and territories to be used by western aggressors as the launching point for attacking another Muslim nation you seems not to be in your favour.

This is the key to understand the causation before pointing fingers to who is fault.

You ignore although Iran only contributes to a small fraction of the total oils imported by China, this fraction settled in Chinese yuan instead of USD, this is significant for China to promote her own currency settlement, especially when yanks weaponising USD more and more. For the same reason Yanks overthrew Venezuela previous regime so that Oil exported to China will no longer settled in Yuan. Further earlier, Saddam was hanged because he attempted to settle Iraqi oil exports in non usd currency.

In old Chinese saying, enemy’s enemy is your friend. Losing Iran will harm China’s position strategically, given yanks are enforcing their Cold War style alliance to block China in every front and attacking directly ( weak nations such as Venezuela, Iran) or through proxy war against ( Russia) China’s mere friendly nations left.
 
I just don’t get why Iranians overrate themselves this much.
The US took control of Iraq — did that stop China importing oil from Iraq? What about Venezuela?
Likewise, even if Iran gets defeated or broken up, how would that hurt China?
Don’t forget: Iran picked India as its ally, not China.
 
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I don't think so! Where are Saudis when BLA and TTP is attacking us everyday? Unless the pact is for something else then please educate me on it.
If you need or expect Saudi Arabia to help you fight bla and TTP then there are only two plausible explanations....1) Pakistani state is very weak and Saudi Arabia is a stronger military power....2) you are a retard ...tell me which one is correct .
 

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