Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[mythbuster]

"Our ilk" does not have a track record of repeatedly getting involved in foreign wars for the sake of $$$ or subsidized oil.

You give free massage therapy to your loved ones... well , you have reached zen like state and we mortal Beings need your spiritual guidance.

 

[El Sidd]

no one will have a gut to talk about this .

and whose fault is that?

 

[RescueRanger]

and whose fault is that?

You tell me?

 

[the vicious kind]

Is this not our own strategic failure for putting all the eggs in one basket?

We could be meeting our energy needs through pipelines if we knew how to play the game instead of going to IMF/ADB/KSA every 6 months.

Historically, Saudi Arabia has been one of Pakistan’s most reliable and often generous oil suppliers.

Crude oil is not like buying bottled water from a different shop....you cannot simply switch suppliers overnight. Different crude grades have different characteristics, and refineries, transport networks and storage systems are built around them. Replacing that supply would require years of planning and billions of dollars in new investment.

Ok so for all the gung ho folks here, how will Pakistan tackle these Houthis ?

Houthis deploy missiles and drones to attack ships in southern Red Sea, naval group says

Attacks on ships transiting the Bab el-Mandeb threaten to cut off millions of barrels per day of Saudi crude oil exports.

www.cnbc.com

Pakistan has far more cards up its sleeve than people like to admit. Just a month ago, during the U.S. blockade, Iran practically begged access to Pakistani ports on humanitarian grounds, and Pakistan responded by opening an entire land corridor for Iranian-bound supplies.

Yet Iranian posters on the sister thread keep boasting that Iran is “unbeatable” and mocking Pakistan as a “baby bear.” Apparently, this unbeatable regional superpower still needed the baby bear’s ports, roads and goodwill to keep essential supplies moving to millions of its citizens.

Pakistan could pressure the Houthis without launching a direct military campaign. The Pakistan Navy could enforce a maritime blockade around Hodeidah, using its submarine fleet (Houthis have no answer) to disrupt resupply and restrict port access, increasing financial and material support for anti-Houthi forces inside Yemen.

 

[El Sidd]

You tell me?

Culture.

Cultural attributes dictate that we let a fight become a brawl before getting involved. There's no nipping in the bud concept in all and every subculture that calls Pakistan home.

 

[RescueRanger]

Culture.

Cultural attributes dictate that we let a fight become a brawl before getting involved. There's no nipping in the bud concept in all and every subculture that calls Pakistan home.

True, but there is more to it than that. We have a habit of sweeping things under the rug to avoid uncomfortable conversations.

 

[mythbuster]

Culture.

Cultural attributes dictate that we let a fight become a brawl before getting involved. There's no nipping in the bud concept in all and every subculture that calls Pakistan home.

That's deep and so true.

 

[El Sidd]

True, but there is more to it than that. We have a habit of sweeping things under the rug to avoid uncomfortable conversations.

Technically that uncomfortable conversation is not allowed per forum rules nor it falls under what is considered politically correct.

In propaganda warfare terms, Pakistan faces a handicapped battle and by chosing Arabs, she would be betting on a seemingly loosing horse.

 

[RescueRanger]

Technically that uncomfortable conversation is not allowed per forum rules nor it falls under what is considered politically correct.

In propaganda warfare terms, Pakistan faces a handicapped battle and by chosing Arabs, she would be betting on a seemingly loosing horse.

1000% correct brother. But forum rules aside why is it that as a society as a people we shy away from asking the obvious questions?

Why is it that some are so easy to kowtow and allow mockery in the hope that kohi nahi bhai chara hain.

 

[mythbuster]

Technically that uncomfortable conversation is not allowed per forum rules nor it falls under what is considered politically correct.

In propaganda warfare terms, Pakistan faces a handicapped battle and by chosing Arabs, she would be betting on a seemingly loosing horse.

Arabs are learning fast and are gradually getting rid of the baggage...for us the baggage is sacred.

 

[mythbuster]

1000% correct brother. But forum rules aside why is it that as a society as a people we shy away from asking the obvious questions?

Why is it that some are so easy to kowtow and allow mockery in the hope that kohi nahi bhai chara hain.

You don't question theory of planned design.... it's blasphemy.

 

[RescueRanger]

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[El Sidd]

1000% correct brother. But forum rules aside why is it that as a society as a people we shy away from asking the obvious questions?

Why is it that some are so easy to kowtow and allow mockery in the hope that kohi nahi bhai chara hain.

Maybe the society is more about finding answers of the un-asked questions than asking the question. All Asian societies show this tendency. It has been stated before to Hussain026 that Pakistan is a strictly Asian country plying western political thought.

 

[El Sidd]

Arabs are learning fast and are gradually getting rid of the baggage...for us the baggage is sacred.

Cite me an example of such from an Arab state?

 

[mythbuster]

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Time is running out for Iran , Hezbollah and Houthise... they were given opportunities and face savings to come to their senses and accept the ground realities ....alas , their arrogance and hubris got better of them...