Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion


India as a region is NOT synonymous with India the state. Just as you're confused about the zionists you're confused about the aim of revisionist state called India! Who seeks to establish a parallel rule on some bygone greatness.
This conflation is not lost on Pakistanis though and as for the trade it can only be pursued with an ensuing region that remains true to itself.
See, right here is a crucial issue for this agreement. Pakistan never recognized Israel, doesn't do trade or seeks to give it any meaning than what is apparent... yet it is not reciprocated on any level on either the Saudi or larger GCC. Which leaves a gaping hole on worldview and understanding. Will this agreement now by extension aim to impose Abraham Accords on Pakistan that is now a net security guarantor for the state?

Opened a can of worms right there...
 
The Turkish defense analyst Ardan Zenturk, editor-in-chief of M5 (Turkey's highest circulating magazine on defense), proposed for Turkey a nuclear deterrence treaty with Pakistan back in 2019! The KSA has implemented it....

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I wonder why that didn't happen back in 2019. NATO complicates things in Turkiye's geopolitical strategy.
 
India as a region is NOT synonymous with India the state. Just as you're confused about the zionists you're confused about the aim of revisionist state called India! Who seeks to establish a parallel rule on some bygone greatness.
This conflation is not lost on Pakistanis though and as for the trade it can only be pursued with an ensuing region that remains true to itself.
See, right here is a crucial issue for this agreement. Pakistan never recognized Israel, doesn't do trade or seeks to give it any meaning than what is apparent... yet it is not reciprocated on any level on either the Saudi or larger GCC. Which leaves a gaping hole on worldview and understanding. Will this agreement now by extension aim to impose Abraham Accords on Pakistan that is now a net security guarantor for the state?

Opened a can of worms right there...
against the Entity and "greater Entity plan" Saudis had only this to save there Sovereignty. US was a Guarantor and still is - but Entity is special case.

Thats why they wanted to do it openly.
 
If we enter into a defense agreement with 3 Arab nations and looking at how much they have given to America for security and still our economy doesn't get better. Bro I would be pissed.
it wont!

unless, we grow exports and grow cotton and become a manufacturing hub

we are always 20 years behind in becoming a next Asian tiger..

we need dams, big ones, likes of which dont exist in South Asia!

Dam building needs sustained honesty!
 
So it seems that our good neighbors (in India) are all wondering about how this new pact will play out.

I'm referring to the: Any Attack on One = Attack on Both

Basically the Indians are just worried that if India were to venture into another Op. Tandoor (reload), would KSA be going to WAR alongside Pakistan.

And the general consensus appears to be: No

Okay, perhaps that may be true & KSA might not get involved directly in a conflict with India...

..., but there is a point that perhaps someone may or may not have pointed out earlier and that is - with KSA's assistance we may be able to sustain a WAR a whole lot longer than (initially) expected.

If most of you all may recall, back in May the conversation from the Indian side used to be that Pakistan can't afford to keep going for more than 2 Weeks.

Obviously, no one is labelling the May conflict as 'War', however, it would be nice to know that we will now have financial backing to...Go To War

Now..., can we Start a Topic about the items (on our wishlist) that we want to add in the Basket...

[Paisa phaiko - tamasha daikho]
Even with a couple of billions of $s in the Pak coffers, last time they* couldn't last more than an hour in air battles, and 4 hours in missile battles...

*California definition
 
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The impact on India will be huge--and Indians are quite replaceable and fingers are increasingly being pointed toward Indian citizens acting as Mossad agents in the Middle East, including even in Iran. Pakistan and Pakistani blogspace must focus on kicking the Indians out of the Middle East: India as a nation and Indian bloggers exposed themselves by being so pro Israel when Israelis were slaughtering the Gazans. India couldn't even sufficiently condemn the Israeli attack on Iran!! Yeah, so such so for the 'civilizational ties' between Iran and India!! Hypocrites!!

Indians need to have limited stay, and from ALL IT, and confidential data places related to military, Indians need to go. There needs to be a stricter background check and local intelligence of the suspects and they need to get rid of them before their own land is in jeopardy.

Anyone with ANY military experience in today's weapon system knows human intelligence HAD to take coordinates from the front of the building or from the inside to program into the LGB's fired. They are lying they fired ballistic missiles. Their fighters were tracked by others but they didn't do anything as it wasn't a war or a threat to others they flew over or around.

WHAT'S THE PLAN?

Indians have abused American, Canadians and Middle Eastern niceness. These regions have welcomed Indians in Millions and have created millions of Indian millionaires in dollars, who otherwise had no comparable future in India. Any country as poor as India, would have been thankful by having a big population earning in Dollars and Dirhams, sending hundreds of billions dollars back to India to help it grow it's economy.

But this is a shameless, thank less, deceitful nation. What it did is, it forged alliance with Israel because both these support each other's dream. India promised to use it's population in the Middle East to eventually create enough political and financial power like Jews have in the US, where the local princes would eventually be subdued and through corruption, coercion, and other tactics, will accept Israel as their daddy and be in and out like we saw in Doha. This will result in eventual completion of the "greater Israel"!

In turn, Israel would arm, support, train and help India globally through it's power in the US and elsewhere and cover up all it's human rights violations. First, Pakistan would be destroyed and then Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka will be taken to build an "Akhand Bharat". In this process, millions of Muslims will be killed and Israel will control anyone screaming like they do in case of Ghaza, without care for the world.

So from the Middle East to Afghanistan and on the other side to Sri Lanka, it will be ruled by India and Israel directly. The US will tackle China and will give these two the Asian continent. Russia is just a big country who won't get in as it has very close ties with Israel that it hides. Iran's case is an example, they almost begged to Putin to give military equipment, or, put a ceasefire through his effort, but he smiled, promised and didn't do anything.

So Greater Israel dream MEETS Greater India dream! Both anti-Muslim inhumane butchers like the Hitler.

To make things easier, they decided to bow down to Xi so a "two front war" threat is over and China is out. They will come up with some plan to manage China also whether through trade or other incentives. That's the full plan!

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Integration is key.

All Muslim countries face an existential threat from Israel.

Only logical conclusion is for us to all integrate. Train Together. Do joint exercises. Play out scenarios.

Pakistanis can provide the nuclear umbrella. limit their options in our vicinity. The European fascists are reliant on you doing nothing. Make it harder for them.

Iran provides the long stick. It's the only one that can effectively strike Israel. The rest defend Iran like no tomorrow.

Area denial is key. We must work on denying their navies access to our waters.

Together, with long term planning and a war footing it can be done.
 
it wont!

unless, we grow exports and grow cotton and become a manufacturing hub

we are always 20 years behind in becoming a next Asian tiger..

we need dams, big ones, likes of which dont exist in South Asia!

Dam building needs sustained honesty!
For that we need financing of these dams and cheap oil so that industries could be opened. We need political stability with financing from these gulf nations to kickstart our economy which is currently very dead.Currently terrorism and these floods and climate change is not letting us organically grow. This is a far greater threat than corruption. The cycle goes like this
Poor economy= poorer education and health= poorer and stupider people=poorer development= more unemployment= more terrorism= poorer economy and with the damage from the floods in the mix. Organic growth of Pakistan would require a lot of time and effort . We need to leverage our stronger defensive abillites to support our very weaker economy
 
For that we need financing of these dams and cheap oil so that industries could be opened. We need political stability with financing from these gulf nations to kickstart our economy which is currently very dead.Currently terrorism and these floods and climate change is not letting us organically grow. This is a far greater threat than corruption. The cycle goes like this
Poor economy= poorer education and health= poorer and stupider people=poorer development= more unemployment= more terrorism= poorer economy and with the damage from the floods in the mix. Organic growth of Pakistan would require a lot of time and effort . We need to leverage our stronger defensive abillites to support our very weaker economy

this is by design...
 

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