Pakistan seeks $10b in US backstop facility

[PakistanLVR]

This is you right?
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Talking about how Indian army soliders kidnap Kashmiri women and make "videos" of them? Right?

I would learn to STFU if I were you. GTFO out this thread you pitiful creature.

I’m noticed Indians specifically Hindus focus heavily on R*pe, s^xual assaults, and other disgusting, vile behavior. Why is allowed to fester on this forum spreading poison against our people.

Sometimes the admins are too lenient even when we know they are not here for an earnest conversation but to spread disinformation.

 

[SaadH]

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Would love for Trump to do the right thing for once and tell these slimy East India Company Jamedars to go pound sand

 

[SaadH]

So let me get this straight ..... Pakistan can’t develop unless DHA holds its hand? That’s not an argument, that’s intellectual surrender. Reducing national progress to a housing society is exactly why we’re stuck in a loop of low expectations and plot‑economy fantasies.

Our biggest national disease is this obsession with comparing ourselves to India’s worst metrics.

“Oh they don’t have toilets, so it’s fine if we pay 20% more for petrol.”
“Oh they have slums, so it’s okay if our cities drown every monsoon. ”

This isn’t analysis, it’s self‑comfort.

If you want to talk development, compare Pakistan to countries that actually did it. Vietnam didn’t have DHA, yet its GDP per capita exploded from under $700 in 1986 to nearly $4,500 in 2023, and extreme poverty collapsed from over 50% to under 3%.Singapore didn’t need a real‑estate cartel to become one of the world’s most advanced economies.

So no, DHA is not Pakistan’s savior. Countries with fewer resources, fewer excuses, and zero “plot culture” are thriving, while we’re still debating whether development is even possible without a housing authority.

If anything, this argument proves how low the bar has fallen.

That's outright sleazy dishonesty. In reality, when civilians develop Pakistan and overshadow the martyrs'-bodies-rejectors club, then those people/entities and promptly put out of business and their extradition demands and red warrants are issued.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Is Pakistan going to become default state? Are we willing to give Gwadar to China for 100 years?

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Pakistan’s Real Sources of Income, And Why the System Is Breaking​

Pakistan’s economy survives on a few fragile pillars. None of them are sustainable, and all of them expose how deeply the state depends on external inflows, narrow tax bases, and regressive fuel taxation.

1) Pakistan receives $30 billion+ annually from overseas workers, mostly from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Oman, and Bahrain. This is not optional income, it is survival income.​

• Remittances stabilize the rupee
• Finance imports
• Support foreign exchange reserves
• Prevent immediate balance‑of‑payment collapse

If overseas Pakistanis stop sending money, the economy would face a severe shock, potentially a collapse. Pakistan’s economic model is dangerously dependent on labor exported to the Gulf.

2) Pakistan’s tax system is broken because:​

• A massive shadow economy hides real income
• Elites either avoid taxes or pay symbolic amounts
• Agriculture, real estate, and retail remain largely untaxed
• The middle class is shrinking, with many leaving the country
• Only 2–3 million people pay income tax in a nation of 240 million

This means the government relies on indirect taxes (GST, fuel taxes, utility surcharges) that punish ordinary citizens instead of taxing wealth.

Pakistan does not have a tax system; it has a collection system targeting the poor and middle class.

3) Pakistanis pay 30%–50% more per litre in government taxes/levies on petrol compared to most South Asian countries.

Why? Because Pakistan imposes a very high Petroleum Levy (PL) that others do not.

Facts:​

• PL alone is Rs 117.41 per litre
• Total petrol taxes reach Rs 145 per litre
• Nearly 50% of the petrol price is tax
• Pakistan’s PL is the highest in South Asia
• Government keeps 100% of PL (not shared with provinces)
• PL is used to meet IMF revenue targets

This makes petrol unaffordable and pushes inflation across transport, food, and daily essentials.

4) The Domino Effect.. Why Electric Bikes Are Surging in Pakistan
Because petrol has become a luxury, Pakistanis are shifting rapidly toward electric bikes:

• Lower running cost
• No petrol dependency
• Escape from PL burden
• Affordable for students, delivery riders, and low‑income workers

High PL → Expensive petrol → Public frustration → Electric bike boom.

Pakistan’s fuel taxation is directly reshaping transportation behavior.

Pakistan’s economy stands on three unstable legs:

1. Remittances — the lifeline
2. Weak tax collection — the structural failure
3. Petroleum Levy — the regressive burden on ordinary citizens

These are not signs of a healthy economy. They are signs of an economy surviving on external support, internal inequality, and heavy taxation on the poor.

How the 34‑Economic‑Zone (EZ) Model Fixes the System​

The EZ Model does not promise shortcuts. It promises systemic transformation, but it requires 10 to 15 years of consistent implementation. 22 billion dollars annual saving by eliminating provincial setup and making Economic Zones as second tier of government. Both Federal and EZ government model become lean with significantly less overhead.

The strength of the EZ Model is that it addresses every broken pillar of Pakistan’s economy:

• Investment (local + foreign)
• Taxation (federal + local)
• Governance (digital + decentralized)
• Industrialization (cluster‑based)
• Energy pricing (competition instead of monopoly)
• Agriculture modernization
• Export pipelines

It replaces a centralized, politicized, feudal‑controlled structure with 34 high‑performance zonal engines.

 

[Owaiz]

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Pakistan’s Real Sources of Income, And Why the System Is Breaking​

Pakistan’s economy survives on a few fragile pillars. None of them are sustainable, and all of them expose how deeply the state depends on external inflows, narrow tax bases, and regressive fuel taxation.

1) Pakistan receives $30 billion+ annually from overseas workers, mostly from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Oman, and Bahrain. This is not optional income, it is survival income.​

• Remittances stabilize the rupee
• Finance imports
• Support foreign exchange reserves
• Prevent immediate balance‑of‑payment collapse

If overseas Pakistanis stop sending money, the economy would face a severe shock, potentially a collapse. Pakistan’s economic model is dangerously dependent on labor exported to the Gulf.

2) Pakistan’s tax system is broken because:​

• A massive shadow economy hides real income
• Elites either avoid taxes or pay symbolic amounts
• Agriculture, real estate, and retail remain largely untaxed
• The middle class is shrinking, with many leaving the country
• Only 2–3 million people pay income tax in a nation of 240 million

This means the government relies on indirect taxes (GST, fuel taxes, utility surcharges) that punish ordinary citizens instead of taxing wealth.

Pakistan does not have a tax system; it has a collection system targeting the poor and middle class.

3) Pakistanis pay 30%–50% more per litre in government taxes/levies on petrol compared to most South Asian countries.

Why? Because Pakistan imposes a very high Petroleum Levy (PL) that others do not.

Facts:​

• PL alone is Rs 117.41 per litre
• Total petrol taxes reach Rs 145 per litre
• Nearly 50% of the petrol price is tax
• Pakistan’s PL is the highest in South Asia
• Government keeps 100% of PL (not shared with provinces)
• PL is used to meet IMF revenue targets

This makes petrol unaffordable and pushes inflation across transport, food, and daily essentials.

4) The Domino Effect.. Why Electric Bikes Are Surging in Pakistan
Because petrol has become a luxury, Pakistanis are shifting rapidly toward electric bikes:

• Lower running cost
• No petrol dependency
• Escape from PL burden
• Affordable for students, delivery riders, and low‑income workers

High PL → Expensive petrol → Public frustration → Electric bike boom.

Pakistan’s fuel taxation is directly reshaping transportation behavior.

Pakistan’s economy stands on three unstable legs:

1. Remittances — the lifeline
2. Weak tax collection — the structural failure
3. Petroleum Levy — the regressive burden on ordinary citizens

These are not signs of a healthy economy. They are signs of an economy surviving on external support, internal inequality, and heavy taxation on the poor.

How the 34‑Economic‑Zone (EZ) Model Fixes the System​

The EZ Model does not promise shortcuts. It promises systemic transformation, but it requires 10 to 15 years of consistent implementation. 22 billion dollars annual saving by eliminating provincial setup and making Economic Zones as second tier of government. Both Federal and EZ government model become lean with significantly less overhead.

The strength of the EZ Model is that it addresses every broken pillar of Pakistan’s economy:

• Investment (local + foreign)
• Taxation (federal + local)
• Governance (digital + decentralized)
• Industrialization (cluster‑based)
• Energy pricing (competition instead of monopoly)
• Agriculture modernization
• Export pipelines

It replaces a centralized, politicized, feudal‑controlled structure with 34 high‑performance zonal engines.

The video is talking about a sovereign default, which is a caveman idea. It will totally destroy Pakistan's economy. Don't forget Pakistan's main creditors are Saudi Arabia, China and the US.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

The video is talking about a sovereign default, which is a caveman idea. It will totally destroy Pakistan's economy. Don't forget Pakistan's main creditors are Saudi Arabia, China and the US.

I have another great Video for you to watch. Most people have no idea about Pakistani economy.

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[RescueRanger]

Instead of asking for more loans, why doesn't the Pakistani government focus on attracting FDI?
FDI creates factories, jobs, and exports. Cities like Karachi could become major manufacturing hubs for global companies. The government could offer free land and a 10 year tax holiday to attract investors.

Ah yes captain obvious to the rescue... To do that we need to invest in infrastructure and generate electricity and provide a stable environment. All that costs .

 

[RescueRanger]

I’m noticed Indians specifically Hindus focus heavily on R*pe, s^xual assaults, and other disgusting, vile behavior. Why is allowed to fester on this forum spreading poison against our people.

Sometimes the admins are too lenient even when we know they are not here for an earnest conversation but to spread disinformation.

Bahi it's some fascination with them, and not all of them but a handful of hawkish types here. The mask often slips and they reveal themselves.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Ah yes captain obvious to the rescue... To do that we need to invest in infrastructure and generate electricity and provide a stable environment. All that costs .

And you also need the rule of law, protection of intellectual property, and fair legal recourse for foreign investors.

 

[Samlee]

Hawksbay area is barren waste land, I hope DHA get it so they can develop in to modern city and compensate families of martyred families. Its the future of Karachi, only DHA will make it work. No one else will even bother before DHA, others will follow. Thats the reputation DHA have. Otherwise it will be made in to another machar colony.

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If I'm going to die for my country then I hope my family is taken care of. Its a bare minimum you can do.

My Uncle Serving As Major Fought In Waziristan and Died For His Country,Why Didn't He Get Any Plot In DHA??

GHQ Duffers and Askerandus Should Stop Hiding Behind Shuhada To Justify Their Wrongdoings.


Oh And Since We Are On The Subject Of Shuhada Remember The Last Time DHA Tried To Do Something For Shuhada

https://tribune.com.pk/story/102445...-probe-against-gen-kayanis-brother-front-page

 

[PakistanLVR]

Bahi it's some fascination with them, and not all of them but a handful of hawkish types here. The mask often slips and they reveal themselves.

Idk, I seem to come across many mainstream Indians on social media who have mentioned r3pe whenever discussing Pakistanis, specifically Pakistani women. It’s embedded in their religion and culture - the degrading of women and using Gr*pe as a weapon. I mean their r+pists get glazed all over their society especially when the victim is a Muslim. Don’t mean to side track this thread but the fact that Indian you just banned went straight go gR*pe when discussing Pakistani politics (and women) and from what I’ve read from Pakistani females in the West who are approached by Indians harassing them for a relationship, constantly glazing our women - yeah it’s a deep issue in their Hindu society.

 

[Owaiz]

I have another great Video for you to watch. Most people have no idea about Pakistani economy.

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Brother, the situation is very tough and there are no easy options and very few difficult ones. A complete overhaul that will require sacrifices from everyone is needed, but, in the absence of a truly representative government that cares about the interests of the marginalized sections, that is impossible. People don't like hearing the uncomfortable facts and those who speak truth are labelled agents or gaddaar.

Sadly, I don't see much hope.

 

[GatlingGunZ]

I’m noticed Indians specifically Hindus focus heavily on R*pe, s^xual assaults, and other disgusting, vile behavior. Why is allowed to fester on this forum spreading poison against our people.

Look at your awaam first.
Whole world knows the deeds of your community in UK>

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[El Sidd]

What do you think Pakistan's independence from India was for?

Pakistan got independence from the British Crown not from India, a country formed a day later no less.

Solomon you do no justice to your own name.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Look at your awaam first.
Whole world knows the deeds of your community in UK>

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100% that’s another Indian larping as a Pakistani. You people have severe inferiority complex. You larp as whites, as Jews, as Pakistanis and have been repeatedly caught. Your people fully give up their identity as soon as they land on new lands so that explains why you would larp as non Indians on social media. I guess it provides an escape from being…an Indian.

Ain’t a single Pakistani wants any Indian woman. It’s the other way around - Indians lusting after Pakistani women left and right. That one 304 with young kids who ended up in India became a local celebrity.