Pakistan shifts from stabilisation to export-led growth, says finance minister

[Sainthood 2.0]

By now, everyone knows how lying, deceiving, cunning the (rumors from 2021 when he was a nobody) Riyasat e Machiavelli party is with ample support from the Indians and Afghans. You can post whatever obscure source to target the Army Chief but when you will see the actual audio and videos about to come out about Imran and his henchmen's corruption then we will talk!

They're both criminals
Stop wasting your breath on them, brother!
go for a walk

 

[PakFactor]

Same people, different tenures. IK and his team were doing no wonders. The issues are for all to see (I posted a link from the GoP source that clearly highlights the challenges faced by Pakistan, they are hiding nothing and none of what you state is a new problem) and they have not been addressed with continuity thus this issue. Every elected government comes in and starts over. A hybrid system has the promise of offering more continuity to policies implemented.

From the horse's mouth: https://uraanpakistan.pk/exports/

You frame Pakistan’s problems solely as “policy discontinuity,” but this oversimplifies the situation and overlooks the deeper structural causes of Pakistan’s economic instability. Hybrid systems also create discontinuity, do not resolve it when power centers shift, lead to policy reversals depending on who takes charge of the hybrid system, and leave decisions to their sole discretion. And, no accountability.

I will make a point here: Neither government's past nor present (hybrid) has employed people well-versed in economics, or researchers in the field, to provide policy guidance.

There are many examples of countries that have relied on hybrid (military-civilian) models, and none worked: Turkey, Indonesia, Thailand, and the infamous Egypt, still toiling away at it. I call Egypt a case study for the world to learn from, but sadly, no one in Pakistan likes the class, while others have taken the lessons and moved on.

* Turkey, Indonesia, and Thailand showed more success and development after they went full-on democratic.

[I do not count the Gulf countries, because if they didn't have the black gold, they would still be crawling through the desert.]

I would say, though, that while the world has Mr. Market (the invisible hand) and people represented governments in booming economies, Pakistan has always had a hybrid system, with the military as its indispensable (invisible) hand. Neither have SIFC and other initiatives amounted to much. Thus, this Uraan dream would come crashing down too.

 

[Meengla]

* Turkey, Indonesia, and Thailand showed more success and development after they went full-on democratic.

Nice ideals but did you consider that those countries didn't have the psychopaths like the Amir ul Mominoon Nawaz Sharif and the Caliph of Riyasat e Medina Imran Khan? It seems like in the soil of central Punjab to produce whackos like them and General Zia ul Haq.
Also, there were a few years in the 90s when a civilian PM had the real power, which was the first time after ZAB was sacked in 1977, and that PM was Nawaz Sharif. But he couldn't rise to the challenges, was corrupt, confrontational, had disastrous economic policies so the military intervened. Similarly, Imran did have enough powers to sack even a DG ISI but Imran had proven a huge liability for Pakistan's most vital foreign relations and, some say, was also ruining Pakistan's economy.
The military does not WANT to intervene but, being the ultimate guardian of Pakistan's security and sovereignty, intervenes. No one in their sane mind can discount the eight decade old strategic threat Pakistan faces from a powerful India and as long as that threat remains, I will unabashedly be on the side of caution and support the Pakistani military.

 

[Blain2]

Rumors of a rift between the PM and the military had started appearing in late 2021 on Dawn.com and most political analysts in Pakistan concur Imran was unhappy with the then ISI Chief General Asim Munir bringing up Imran's wife's corruption. Imran was very angry and told General Munir to leave his family alone and then removed the ISI Chief, who was the second most powerful person in Pakistan, right behind the Army Chief, which demonstrates Imran did have considerable powers as the PM of Pakistan.

People have forgotten this very conveniently in order to paint Asim Munir as the ultimate "Jaffar" of the Alladin fame.

To me Asim Munir is just another CoAS/CDF. However, when I question the vociferous attacks against him, it is not because I am a big fan of his, rather what irks me is the duplicity and hypocrisy that is applied shamelessly to target him and the entire institution of the army (which hurts Pakistan) with innuendo, hyperboles and bald faced lies.

 

[Meengla]

However, when I question the vociferous attacks against him, it is not because I am a big fan of his, rather what irks me is the duplicity and hypocrisy that is applied shamelessly to target him and the entire institution of the army (which hurts Pakistan) with innuendo, hyperboles and bald faced lies.

The Cultists can't face simple facts: Imran turned against the Pakistani military only when the military, starting late 2021/early 2022 refused to intervene on Imran's behalf to stop the No Confidence Motion. Otherwise, before that, Imran had neither challenged America nor had ever challenged the perks and privileges of the military. It was only when he was about to lose power that he gave the 'awareness' to his Cultists. We can go back and read the archives of Dawn.com to confirm what I am saying here.

 

[PakFactor]

Nice ideals but did you consider that those countries didn't have the psychopaths like the Amir ul Mominoon Nawaz Sharif and the Caliph of Riyasat e Medina Imran Khan? It seems like in the soil of central Punjab to produce whackos like them and General Zia ul Haq.
Also, there were a few years in the 90s when a civilian PM had the real power, which was the first time after ZAB was sacked in 1977, and that PM was Nawaz Sharif. But he couldn't rise to the challenges, was corrupt, confrontational, had disastrous economic policies so the military intervened. Similarly, Imran did have enough powers to sack even a DG ISI but Imran had proven a huge liability for Pakistan's most vital foreign relations and, some say, was also ruining Pakistan's economy.
The military does not WANT to intervene but, being the ultimate guardian of Pakistan's security and sovereignty, intervenes. No one in their sane mind can discount the eight decade old strategic threat Pakistan faces from a powerful India and as long as that threat remains, I will unabashedly be on the side of caution and support the Pakistani military.

Let's not forget it's the same military that gave the stage to those wackos from ZAB calling Ayub "Abu Gi" to NS and IK, etc., and supported the next generation in taking it on afterward. They've all but dismantled accountability and wrecked the system. Till now, supporting the same old. Add to this the religious lunatics it's propped up.

It could have done much better if it had supported the right people with the right qualifications and degrees. But that was too much to ask of them. I made a post in another thread, it took one good man in the name of Atatürk to change Turkey, going from a 9% literacy rate country to 35% in a mere 10 years, and set the course of creating an educated and healthy population.

It's not that the military doesn't want to intervene; it does, as shown countless times through its invisible-hand approach. It's up to civilians to determine what relationships they want with others; the job of the military is to stay at the border and shut the f_ck up.

I'm sorry to say, while India is a threat, it's been Pakistan that's launched two full-blown wars, and a military infiltration with India, all three of which it has lost and returned to positions before the conflict—nothing to show except a wasted exchequer. It's maintained this position, as without it, it would lose relevance.

So, while we view everything through the security lens, India has moved well past that and has thrived.

Unless you change how things are done and viewed, you'll be stuck in a never-ending cycle with no end in sight.