Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf's (PTI) Rallies / Protests

[Oscar]

Folks - we have our opinions - very strong ones from all types of angles and sides.

There is no condoning or endorsement of what actions were undertaken by the state acting under the current leadership as there is no endorsement of actions PTI is accused of (for which these state institutions are justifying their judicial and extra judicial actions for).

But one thing should be absolutely CLEAR.
If you are inciting VIOLENCE against the state in an active manner and promoting the use of arms to cause harm to both state employees and their families - regardless of injustices carried out that is something we cannot allow to be openly promoted.

If you’re suggesting destruction of state assets which regardless of who occupies them as personalities or their use - it is not allowed.

If you cannot follow these guidelines - please don’t log on - you are not drug addicted that you cannot help but post violent ideas on the internet - it was nice knowing you - but this platform is not for it.

The views of most(if not all) of the admin about the events and current situation in the country are laid pretty bare on this thread and others - but there are lines.

If you cannot control yourselves - we will do it for you and remember - your words here are 1’s and 0’s so are any potential threats.

It is dark - darker than it has ever been for Pakistan since 1971 - It does really seem the end of times is nigh and chaos is everywhere.

You need to decide who you are as a peoples and as a nation but if you wish to engage in open anti-state terrorism - REGARDLESS of what the state is being used for in it’s current form - please take your ideas elsewhere.

Protest - expose - discuss
But posting images or text to incite violence is no-go

@Musings @Waz

 

[Oscar]

As we all know that Twitter aka X is banned in Pakistan so majority Pakistanis do not know what is going on inside the country specially in KPK and Baluchistan. Well there are videos posted daily on X showing Insurgents in KPK and Baluichistan killing Soldiers mercilessly and burning their vehicles. Pushtoons are extremely angry. They are killing Police. I told you fellows, this is going to become ugly very quickly. The generals are trying their best to hide behind the legacy media with propoganda but the truth on X is undeniable. These generals kill ordinary Pakistanis, loot billions which are overseas and then they fuk off once they retire. But what they have done this time around, further break-up of the country is inevitable.

And if majority is ok watching from the sidelines - then so be it. The state was built for the people - if ownership was stolen and democracy doesn’t suit them and they don’t want to fight for ownership - then so be it.

Barely 2% stood up out of 250 million for their rights - after they saw them being stolen outright post elections. If that is the best the collective nations that inhabit Pakistan can do then so be it. If the will be another liberation war in the west or otherwise - so be it. There has to be an organic wakeup or life goes on.

Look at Syria right now - those who fight, fight - those that go to their daily lives go on.
Once a unified state it’s now being eaten up by wolves all around because of a semi similar elite rule situation.

 

[SaadH]

Absolutely. Specially when these rats in GHQ have sold out on India and Kashmir. When was the last time you heard them even talking about kashmir? It was IK who kept on highlighting India, RSS/BJP, kashmir but these bastards on GHQ kept mum , infact I have no doubt they sabotaged IK efforts. Also notice when China had India but its balls over LAC, Bajwa led kanjars in GHQ did diddly sqaut to put pressure on India.

Bottom line is, since India is no longer an enemy, these haramkhors need another enemy to have justification for their fat bellies and all the tax they consume. You might have already noticed, since IK removal, they have reverted back to western border, and now trying to instigate rebellion in KPK, which will serve their short term goals, but devastating for the federation of Pakistan.

Asim muneer and his touts in GHQ MUST be dispatched ASAP, time is of the essence. No more dithering, no more confusion. Get rid!!!

Bajwa actually went out of his way to formally agree to a cease fire on LOC to give his hindutva masters relief when Chinese had them tied up on LAC in Galwan and elsewhere.

 

[SaadH]

The chutzpah of faujeets is amazing. Their arguments justifying mass murder are very similar to Israelis like Solomon who come here to justify genocide.

What they ignore is that to subvert the constitution is high treason, an offense punishable by death. The generals treat the constitution of Pakistan like toilet paper. They assume that they’re the chosen people, like the Jews, not subject to any law.

Meanwhile the faujeets ignore the reality of Pakistan being a failed state and a hell on earth for most of the population. The generals live in a little bubble of extreme luxury and seem to have no idea what hardships normal people have to endure. The country is ranked at the bottom on almost every measure of success. Total GDP, GDP growth rate, per capita income, investment, exports, health, education, pollution, PIA, etc. Pakistan is a failed state by every measure because of the generals.

Faujeets were doing the same when Mushy was facilitating and taking part in mass murder of Pakistanis under his master Bush's war of terror. Most of us were drinking the fauji industry cool aid back then and defending them...

 

[ghazi52]

ATC issues non-bailable arrest warrants for Imran Khan, Bushra Bibi, 94 others​

List also includes PTI leaders Ali Amin Gandapur, Barrister Gohar, Omar Ayub, Sher Afzal Marwat, Faisal Javed

News Desk
December 02, 2024

Former first lady Bushra Bibi (L) and former prime minister Imran Khan (R).

An Islamabad Anti-Terrorism Court (ATC) on Monday issued non-bailable arrest warrants for former prime minister and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) founder Imran Khan, his wife Bushra Bibi, and 94 other individuals in connection with a case related to the PTI protest in Islamabad last week.

The list also includes Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (K-P) Chief Minister Ali Amin Gandapur, Opposition Leader Omar Ayub, Sher Afzal Marwat, Khalid Khurshid, Faisal Javed, MNAs Abdul Latif, Fateh Malik, Ali Nasir, and provincial minister Riaz Khan.

The protest, which PTI described as a “final call,” took place on November 26 at Islamabad’s D-Chowk, two days after PTI supporters began a large-scale march to the capital, demanding Imran Khan’s release.

However, it was dispersed after a Law Enforcement Agencies (LEAs) operation. PTI has claimed that at least 12 people were killed during the crackdown, and hundreds of protesters were arrested.

In the case related to the protest, police submitted a list of 96 suspects to the court, including former president Arif Alvi, former speaker Asad Qaiser, PTI Chairman Barrister Gohar, and several other PTI leaders.

 

[Goenitz]

Folks - we have our opinions - very strong ones from all types of angles and sides.

There is no condoning or endorsement of what actions were undertaken by the state acting under the current leadership as there is no endorsement of actions PTI is accused of (for which these state institutions are justifying their judicial and extra judicial actions for).

But one thing should be absolutely CLEAR.
If you are inciting VIOLENCE against the state in an active manner and promoting the use of arms to cause harm to both state employees and their families - regardless of injustices carried out that is something we cannot allow to be openly promoted.

If you’re suggesting destruction of state assets which regardless of who occupies them as personalities or their use - it is not allowed.

If you cannot follow these guidelines - please don’t log on - you are not drug addicted that you cannot help but post violent ideas on the internet - it was nice knowing you - but this platform is not for it.

The views of most(if not all) of the admin about the events and current situation in the country are laid pretty bare on this thread and others - but there are lines.

If you cannot control yourselves - we will do it for you and remember - your words here are 1’s and 0’s so are any potential threats.

It is dark - darker than it has ever been for Pakistan since 1971 - It does really seem the end of times is nigh and chaos is everywhere.

You need to decide who you are as a peoples and as a nation but if you wish to engage in open anti-state terrorism - REGARDLESS of what the state is being used for in it’s current form - please take your ideas elsewhere.

Protest - expose - discuss
But posting images or text to incite violence is no-go

@Musings @Waz

Guys as much as the army is acting against human rights and the state constitution, BLA or TTP or IA is not our friend.
I know everybody, mentioned above, is acting against Pakistanis. Everyone wants its writ/authority/legitimacy to be accepted by the public while returning not the same. Still, we cannot compare terrorist outfits with PA.
We need judges, bureaucrats, Doctors, Army, teachers, etc despite they are not fulfilling their duties.
We cannot have terrorists for any good day.
@AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Cash gk @SaadH @alphapak @Sal12

 

[SaadH]

Guys as much as the army is acting against human rights and the state constitution, BLA or TTP or IA is not our friend.
I know everybody, mentioned above, is acting against Pakistanis. Everyone wants its writ/authority/legitimacy to be accepted by the public while returning not the same. Still, we cannot compare terrorist outfits with PA.
We need judges, bureaucrats, Doctors, Army, teachers, etc despite they are not fulfilling their duties.
We cannot have terrorists for any good day.
@AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Cash gk @SaadH @alphapak @Sal12

Not sure about BLA, but Jamedars definitely have an inside track with TTP and there's definitely coordination with IA (Indian Army) in terms of activities/ceasefire on the LOC and infiltrations and RAW was definitely facilitated in some capacity in taking out Kashmiri fighters inside of Pakistan.

 

[ghazi52]

A rally truck used by Bushra Bibi, the wife of Pakistan’s former prime minister Imran Khan, burns near the “red zone”, which was cordoned off by police after protests to demand Khan’s release, in Islamabad on November 27, 2024. Protesters who marched on the Pakistan capital to demand the release of jailed former prime minister Imran Khan were cleared from the city centre on November 27 after a sweeping security crackdown. Photo: AFP

 

[ghazi52]

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[Oscar]

Not sure about BLA, but Jamedars definitely have an inside track with TTP and there's definitely coordination with IA (Indian Army) in terms of activities/ceasefire on the LOC and infiltrations and RAW was definitely facilitated in some capacity in taking out Kashmiri fighters inside of Pakistan.

At this point anyone gets pregnant by mistake you will make the same statement. In many ways you do more disservice by your supposed cause by parroting of a simplistic angle while having no skin in the game but happy to repeat it like a 5 year old on a playground.

For the thread itself;
There are elements who have inside tracks with TTP just as there are elements who have inside tracks with elements in PTI. It’s constantly a case of backchannels versus overt actions because institutionally the top man’s intent is open to be construed by the men below which then falls to the operational commander to interpret and apply.

This also leads to compartmentalization which means the OC for troops getting slaughtered in ambushes in Waziristan is probably not aware of what another OC from Aabpara or even a smaller cell is talking to that specific group in trying to impact change as they interpret it.

So despite your stuck tape recording - Kashmiri militants were being killed by TTA assets that Aabpara allowed to grow unchecked from the days of Hamid Gul - and paid for by India for dirt cheap. The establishment was infact caught so far down that their shock and anger were conveyed in such terms that went to TTA leadership families being fair game for retaliation.

As for LOC coordination - this has been also going on since the days of everyone’s messanic hero Hamid Gul - hotlines are all over the LOC and each move is counter moved and lines drawn over the phone and then someone changes it again. If you did not have that coordination you would have multiple cases of Pulwamas and other aspects happening all the time.

Infact - there have been infiltrations carried out by militants acting under a local OC who did not get the memo yet under Bajwa without the Indians knowing a thing. Then it gets curtailed because of commitments made - commitments that lead to pressures relieved on FATF issue where India had its hand up your arse and US was fully into it.

So I don’t expect you to understand because you actively chose to be parroting but it is important to again highlight both the duplicity(or triplicity or multiplicity) in the establishment but also how Pakistan’s situation is of multiple threats from every possible angle and facilitated by neighbors on three fronts with facilitation internally by ALL political parties and moles within the institutions.