Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf's (PTI) Rallies / Protests

[mythbuster]

PTI claims 8 people dead and the loonies here claim 100 deaths.....whom to believe Gandapur or these expats heroes ?

 

[conqueror]

The idea of a nation’s own citizens taking their armed forces to international courts is indeed groundbreaking. Such actions could involve seeking justice for human rights abuses, corruption, or other illegal activities allegedly committed by military officials. If Pakistani citizens were to demand international intervention, it could lead to legal efforts such as:

• Travel bans on military officers implicated in human rights abuses or corruption, enforced by international bodies like the United Nations, the European Union, or under national laws like the Magnitsky Act in the U.S.
• Asset freezes and seizures, where foreign courts or governments block access to properties and financial holdings owned by implicated military officials abroad.

While unprecedented for a country’s own people to lead such charges against their military, the legal mechanisms do exist under principles of universal jurisdiction and international human rights law. Some African and Latin American countries have seen former military leaders prosecuted internationally for similar crimes.

If successful, this could send a strong signal, demonstrating the accountability of even the most powerful domestic institutions when they violate the rights of their own people.

Consequences of public massacre, after what Pakistan Army has done to the people of Pakistan in Islamabad (#IslamabadMassacre)

When soldiers and officers of the Pakistan Army engage in violence against the people of Pakistan, particularly in violation of human rights, there are several international bodies and mechanisms that can be invoked to investigate and potentially hold them accountable. Here are some key institutions and legal frameworks:

International Criminal Court (ICC)
The ICC can be invoked when there are allegations of war crimes, crimes against humanity, or genocide. If members of the Pakistan Army commit systematic violence, including extrajudicial killings or oppression, they could be referred to the ICC for investigation. However, Pakistan is not a party to the Rome Statute (the treaty that established the ICC), so for the ICC to get involved, the UN Security Council would need to refer the case.

United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC)
The UNHRC can investigate allegations of human rights violations by a member state. The UN Special Rapporteur can be appointed to assess the situation, and a fact-finding mission may be initiated. Civil society organisations, human rights defenders, or even member states can submit complaints to the UNHRC to trigger international scrutiny.

UN Security Council (UNSC)
In cases where large-scale atrocities, violence, or a breakdown of state order is observed, the UNSC can impose sanctions, arms embargoes, or refer the matter to the ICC. The Security Council can also authorise peacekeeping or intervention missions in extreme cases.

International Court of Justice (ICJ)
The ICJ primarily deals with disputes between states. However, if violence escalates to the level of a state-sponsored policy against civilians, Pakistan could be brought before the ICJ by another country for violations of international law, including violations of human rights treaties.

Universal Jurisdiction

Universal jurisdiction allows national courts in countries other than Pakistan to try cases involving serious human rights violations, such as war crimes or crimes against humanity, even if those crimes were committed outside their borders. For example, in the past, Spanish courts and Belgian courts have tried cases against foreign officials for atrocities under this principle. Pakistani military officials could be prosecuted abroad if they travel to a country that has universal jurisdiction laws.​

UN Special Procedures
The Special Procedures of the UN are independent human rights experts with mandates to report and advise on human rights from a thematic or country-specific perspective. This mechanism can be used to call attention to the situation in Pakistan and recommend international intervention.

Sanctions by International Bodies
Economic or travel sanctions can be imposed on military officers and key individuals responsible for human rights violations. For example, the Magnitsky Act enables countries like the US, UK, and Canada to freeze assets and impose travel bans on individuals involved in severe human rights abuses.

Human Rights Organisations
NGOs such as Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH) can document abuses, call for international action, and advocate for criminal proceedings against individuals responsible for violence. These organizations can provide reports to the UN and other international bodies to support legal cases against the perpetrators.

Regional Bodies (e.g., Commonwealth)
If the violence and corruption become systemic, international organisations like the Commonwealth can suspend Pakistan’s membership or impose diplomatic pressure for reform.

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Pakistan is a strong country, not because its soldiers are strong, but its a land of strong individuals who would stand against any illegal occupation. Britishers had their fate, Pakistan Army too will see music for their consequences. Murder of innocents in #IslamabadMassacre would not go unpunished.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Anyways, Ill suggest everyone to do dua and ghaibi namaaz e janazah for the martyred. May their sacrifice become a catalyst for a monumental change.

 

[Bilal]

A huge factor is the leadership. PTI leadership in Punjab was no show. Most of us had no idea where the caravans are gathering and how they are going. The bunch that went, went on their own means

These are specifics. The big picture is Pakistanis don’t have it in them.

 

[Protagoras]

Ok someone tell me why does PA hate their once much beloved Imran khan?

Imran Khan is everything this Jamedaar Army wishes to be. He is a winner while they are prepetual loosers. They have lost against India multiple times while IK used to dominate India.

He is respected in the West despite not even trying. Acceptance in the West is the dream of every Pakistani Army Chief.

From Musharraf to the current one. Millions of dollars spent on lobbying have gone down the drain. These Generals are seen as nothing more than street thugs used to keep Pakistanis in line.

 

[Xiaolong]

Now these so-called inqbali heroes are doing press conferences while leaving poor people to die on their own. How someone can be so blatant?
Yesterday, Bibi said I would be the last woman to leave D-Chowk, but Gandopur and Pappu ki gharelu pari after hearing the first gunshot the previous night were like.

 

[lightning f57]

Like a few have said unfortunately I see this protest fizzling out, the heavy hand tactics and killings will likely scare people from gathering and protesting.

Pak needs a decent neutral leader who is not tarnished with whats happened in the last few years, who is that? will anyone step forward that has influence and not compromised?

Will the international community step in and sanction individuals and heads?

Right now seems unlikely and those repressive corrupt leaders at the top will brush things off and carry on as normal.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Unfortunately People of Punjab and Sindh did NOT participate in this agitation

It was basically a KP led movement

You need millions on the streets

All Cities need to participate

You Need protests outside All Cantonments AND the Jail where Imran Khan is kept

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

USA only trusts Pakistan Army

I think Pakistan Army will say to its international interlocutors that IF Pakistan Army is weakened , then Taliban will become stronger which WEST doesn't want

 

[SteppeWolff]

These are specifics. The big picture is Pakistanis don’t have it in them.

Yes. It won't succeed as long as its a Pashtun dominated movement. Punjabis, Sindhis, Muhajirs, Baloch nowhere to be seen. Pure cuckery

 

[rumoured maniac]

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Truth is harsh this movement is nothing but a headless chicken

 

[PakAl]

Yes. It won't succeed as long as its a Pashtun dominated movement. Punjabis, Sindhis, Muhajirs, Baloch nowhere to be seen. Pure cuckery

Balochistan has own movement going in their regions. Sindh and Punjab benefit from the current system so why should they protest, their leadership rules Pakistan. I can't find any other reason.

 

[Awwad]

I'll be frank...

No amount of mass protests will change anything unless the alternative vision promises real change and, as importantly, swiftly removes everyone of the old guard without any chance of a 'comeback' using institutions, laws, US/UK brokers, etc.

Any sincere leader left in Pak will NOT support IK if IK's vision is to get bail and book it to London (while leaving his benefactors out to dry).

And no, promising to be PM again isn't enough. We all saw that last time IK was PM, the corrupt still flourished in Pakistan under him and, later, in spite of him. IK's going to have be a leader that goes beyond the current system, and call for something much, much greater than preserving the very structural realities that brought Pakistan up to this point.

Today I am not talking about IK or anyone else.

I am talking about Asim Munir. Massacre of 100 + protestors can only come from the very top. In what words you want to condemn a psychopath that is ready to take life of their own unarmed citizens? and whats the solution to getrid of him ?

 

[RescueRanger]

USA only trusts Pakistan Army

I think Pakistan Army will say to its international interlocutors that IF Pakistan Army is weakened , then Taliban will become stronger which WEST doesn't want

Except tali already is Strong they have their own country.

 

[Awwad]

Likely more but keep in mind - the tactics being taken are not too different from conventional warfare.

Communications jamming - psyops - disrupting lines of communication - using pincers and so on. PTI has no answer to this.

Imagine the cowardice of this military. Got their pants pulled down by indian military in nearly all the wars but they are using "conventional warfare" against unprepared, unarmed citizens. They carried out a bloodbath. Army snipers took out headshots of 17 year old kids.

From today onwards, regardless its a siphai or a general the nation will only spit on their faces. Its a Khowarij army!