RescueRanger
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Kasam sey kohi hal Nahi Hain.
Pakistan's New Provinces Plan ?
- Thread starter PaklovesTurkiye
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fitpOsitive
Elite Member
PP sobon k liay ager nai maani tu Imran bhai bahar aasaktay hain.
Goenitz
Elite Member
اس فوج نے اکہتر میں اچھے خاصے صوبے کا ملک بنا دیا تھا صوبے تے شے ای کوئی نہیں
فوج صوبے بنانا چاہتی ہے ، عمران خان صوبے بنانے پر رضامند ہے ۔ اسکے باوجود بہنوں سے ملاقات نہیں ہوسکتی۔ بیٹوں سے بات نہیں ہوسکتی۔ منصوبے ٹھیک بنتے نہیں صوبے بنائیں گے۔
فوج صوبے بنانا چاہتی ہے ، عمران خان صوبے بنانے پر رضامند ہے ۔ اسکے باوجود بہنوں سے ملاقات نہیں ہوسکتی۔ بیٹوں سے بات نہیں ہوسکتی۔ منصوبے ٹھیک بنتے نہیں صوبے بنائیں گے۔
PakAl
Elite Member
One reason can be to reduce power of provisional governments. CM of 120m or 80m population v 30m population is more flexible.
PakAl
Elite Member
PPP is unhappy, they do not want division of Sindh.
Pakistan can keep 4 provinces but copy China style system, China has provinces with population 120m 100m etc and theyre doing well. Will our politicians give up control of financial power.
China's Guangdong province has 126 million people and Henan has nearly 100 million, China operates on a five-tier administrative system:
1. Central Government
2. Provincial Level (22 provinces, 5 autonomous regions, 4 municipalities)
3. Prefecture Level (~330 units)
4. County Level (~2,800 units)
5. Township/Town Level (~40,000 units)
Why it works: In China, provincial governments do not handle day-to-day municipal matters. Prefecture-level cities and counties hold massive regulatory power, keep significant tax revenue, and run local policing, schools, and infrastructure directly. The provincial capital exists mainly for macro-coordination, not micromanagement.
PakAl
Elite Member
If creating more provinces leads to more hatred and instability then why not keep the 4 provinces but instead copy similar system to China. All Pakistan needs to do is devolve the power to local government, keep funds away from MNAs and MPAs.
China's Guangdong province has 126 million people and Henan has nearly 100 million, China operates on a five-tier administrative system:
1. Central Government
2. Provincial Level (22 provinces, 5 autonomous regions, 4 municipalities)
3. Prefecture Level (~330 units)
4. County Level (~2,800 units)
5. Township/Town Level (~40,000 units)
Why it works: In China, provincial governments do not handle day-to-day municipal matters. Prefecture-level cities and counties hold massive regulatory power, keep significant tax revenue, and run local policing, schools, and infrastructure directly. The provincial capital exists mainly for macro-coordination, not micromanagement.
China's Guangdong province has 126 million people and Henan has nearly 100 million, China operates on a five-tier administrative system:
1. Central Government
2. Provincial Level (22 provinces, 5 autonomous regions, 4 municipalities)
3. Prefecture Level (~330 units)
4. County Level (~2,800 units)
5. Township/Town Level (~40,000 units)
Why it works: In China, provincial governments do not handle day-to-day municipal matters. Prefecture-level cities and counties hold massive regulatory power, keep significant tax revenue, and run local policing, schools, and infrastructure directly. The provincial capital exists mainly for macro-coordination, not micromanagement.
PakAl
Elite Member
Pakistan's administrative structure is organized into five hierarchical tiers to distribute administrative and revenue management below the provincial level.
1. Provinces (Level 1): The four main federating units—Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP), and Balochistan—along with territories like Islamabad (ICT), Azad Kashmir, and Gilgit-Baltistan.
2. Divisions (Level 2): Administrative clusters of several districts. Pakistan currently has 40 divisions across its provinces and territories (e.g., Lahore Division, Quetta Division), led by a Divisional Commissioner.
3. Districts / Zillas (Level 3): The primary unit of civil administration, law and order, and public service delivery. Pakistan has over 170 districts nationwide, managed by a Deputy Commissioner (DC).
4. Tehsils / Talukas (Level 4): A tehsil (called a taluka in Sindh) is a sub-district administrative unit focused on local municipal services, land records, and tax revenue collection. There are over 500 tehsils across Pakistan.
5. Union Councils (Level 5): The lowest grassroots tier of governance, representing a single large village or a cluster of small urban neighborhoods.
Why the Province Split Issue Persists
Despite having these districts and tehsils, the debate to split the four main provinces into 12 to 20 smaller ones stems from how power is distributed:
Power Bottlenecks at the Capital: While tehsils manage local land records and municipal offices, tax revenues and major budget approvals remain locked at the provincial capital (Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar, Quetta). District and tehsil administrators must constantly defer upward for development projects.
Weak Local Government: Unlike China's empowered prefectures. Pakistan's local body elections at the tehsil/district level are often delayed, leaving local officials with minimal independent power or financial authority.
1. Provinces (Level 1): The four main federating units—Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP), and Balochistan—along with territories like Islamabad (ICT), Azad Kashmir, and Gilgit-Baltistan.
2. Divisions (Level 2): Administrative clusters of several districts. Pakistan currently has 40 divisions across its provinces and territories (e.g., Lahore Division, Quetta Division), led by a Divisional Commissioner.
3. Districts / Zillas (Level 3): The primary unit of civil administration, law and order, and public service delivery. Pakistan has over 170 districts nationwide, managed by a Deputy Commissioner (DC).
4. Tehsils / Talukas (Level 4): A tehsil (called a taluka in Sindh) is a sub-district administrative unit focused on local municipal services, land records, and tax revenue collection. There are over 500 tehsils across Pakistan.
5. Union Councils (Level 5): The lowest grassroots tier of governance, representing a single large village or a cluster of small urban neighborhoods.
Why the Province Split Issue Persists
Despite having these districts and tehsils, the debate to split the four main provinces into 12 to 20 smaller ones stems from how power is distributed:
Power Bottlenecks at the Capital: While tehsils manage local land records and municipal offices, tax revenues and major budget approvals remain locked at the provincial capital (Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar, Quetta). District and tehsil administrators must constantly defer upward for development projects.
Weak Local Government: Unlike China's empowered prefectures. Pakistan's local body elections at the tehsil/district level are often delayed, leaving local officials with minimal independent power or financial authority.
PakAl
Elite Member
Pakistan's administrative structure is organized into five hierarchical tiers to distribute administrative and revenue management below the provincial level.
1. Provinces (Level 1): The four main federating units—Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP), and Balochistan—along with territories like Islamabad (ICT), Azad Kashmir, and Gilgit-Baltistan.
2. Divisions (Level 2): Administrative clusters of several districts. Pakistan currently has 40 divisions across its provinces and territories (e.g., Lahore Division, Quetta Division), led by a Divisional Commissioner.
3. Districts / Zillas (Level 3): The primary unit of civil administration, law and order, and public service delivery. Pakistan has over 170 districts nationwide, managed by a Deputy Commissioner (DC).
4. Tehsils / Talukas (Level 4): A tehsil (called a taluka in Sindh) is a sub-district administrative unit focused on local municipal services, land records, and tax revenue collection. There are over 500 tehsils across Pakistan.
5. Union Councils (Level 5): The lowest grassroots tier of governance, representing a single large village or a cluster of small urban neighborhoods.
Why the Province Split Issue Persists
Despite having these districts and tehsils, the debate to split the four main provinces into 12 to 20 smaller ones stems from how power is distributed:
Power Bottlenecks at the Capital: While tehsils manage local land records and municipal offices, tax revenues and major budget approvals remain locked at the provincial capital (Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar, Quetta). District and tehsil administrators must constantly defer upward for development projects.
Weak Local Government: Unlike China's empowered prefectures. Pakistan's local body elections at the tehsil/district level are often delayed, leaving local officials with minimal independent power or financial authority.
1. Provinces (Level 1): The four main federating units—Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP), and Balochistan—along with territories like Islamabad (ICT), Azad Kashmir, and Gilgit-Baltistan.
2. Divisions (Level 2): Administrative clusters of several districts. Pakistan currently has 40 divisions across its provinces and territories (e.g., Lahore Division, Quetta Division), led by a Divisional Commissioner.
3. Districts / Zillas (Level 3): The primary unit of civil administration, law and order, and public service delivery. Pakistan has over 170 districts nationwide, managed by a Deputy Commissioner (DC).
4. Tehsils / Talukas (Level 4): A tehsil (called a taluka in Sindh) is a sub-district administrative unit focused on local municipal services, land records, and tax revenue collection. There are over 500 tehsils across Pakistan.
5. Union Councils (Level 5): The lowest grassroots tier of governance, representing a single large village or a cluster of small urban neighborhoods.
Why the Province Split Issue Persists
Despite having these districts and tehsils, the debate to split the four main provinces into 12 to 20 smaller ones stems from how power is distributed:
Power Bottlenecks at the Capital: While tehsils manage local land records and municipal offices, tax revenues and major budget approvals remain locked at the provincial capital (Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar, Quetta). District and tehsil administrators must constantly defer upward for development projects.
Weak Local Government: Unlike China's empowered prefectures. Pakistan's local body elections at the tehsil/district level are often delayed, leaving local officials with minimal independent power or financial authority.
Goenitz
Elite Member
پہلے پانچ صوبے نفرت کرتے ہیں پھر بتیس کریں گے ۔
Yasser76
Elite Member
Sums up the economist. Such a pro India rag they do not hide it anymore. In the 90s and 00s they were touting India as the example for the developing world that would overtake China, then May last year they warned Indian strikes on Pakistan could be devastating and bring down Pak government. Gone massively down hill. Defence editor there is Indian too. I cancelled my sub with them stating why
PaklovesTurkiye
Elite Member
- Thread starter
- #703
Bro.
These PPP waderas / Bhutto Family are playing a nasty game (threatening Army High Command with Article 6). Saw the reaction of lady anchor Gharida Farooqui? She got shocked too.
- Bhutto broke Pakistan in 1971
- They blocked Dams
- They choked Pakistan via 18th amendment - bankrupted federation
- They destroyed Karachi - lifeline of Pakistan's economy
- They blocked Canals
- It's year 2026 and now, they are blocking new provinces even threatening GHQ with Article 6...Unbelievable
Only if Pakistan stop submitting to them? No wonder they feel emboldened, ruling straight for 18 damn consecutive years.
They are sabotageurs. They sabotage from within. Haramis to their core.
Good thing is Pakistan is resetting itself, gearing towards modern Pakistan. There is no room for PPP parasites in new modern Pakistan
How can Pakistan march ahead with same old parasites hovering around, sucking blood with impunity?
I think it is enough is enough now. These haramis need to go.
PPP is living on borrowed time.
They are done for. In Sha Allah
PaklovesTurkiye
Elite Member
- Thread starter
- #704
PakAl
Elite Member
Or a Tawheed conference or Ibn Abdul wahab Day or Eid Party mela or Quran Party Mela or Disco DJ conference.
