PTI Murad Saeed in Afghanistan, was 'controlling KP govt' from there: Rana Sanaullah

[Cipher212]

Tried and tested formula since 1947 that has always resulted in blow back. The 'state' refuses to learn over multiple decades of this only alienating people. Now doing it to the party that won 180 seats.


Peddling such news serves no one. Not even the army itself. Times have changed and there is enough information online now, you can't make things like this up anymore.

 

[Blain2]

Musharraf made the Baluchistan issue a regional problem and hotbed for nefarous foreign intelligence agencies by killing Akbar Bugti and other Baloch leaders. The current field Marshall seems to be repeating the same blunder in KP by maligning and smearing legitimate critics as traitors and concocting anti-state narratives.

Musharraf did not kill Bugti. This is a misnomer.

Bugti and his fighters were cornered by the army. 5 officers were sent inside the cave to offer terms.

Bugti's fighters exploded the rigged cave. All those who were inside the cave perished including 5 of our officers.

I agree with you that this "otherization" does not help. I do not think the PTI masses and leaders are anti-Pakistan. They have a PoV which needs to be heard but it is not aligned with that of the current government and establishment.

 

[hussain0216]

Musharraf made the Baluchistan issue a regional problem and hotbed for nefarous foreign intelligence agencies by killing Akbar Bugti and other Baloch leaders. The current field Marshall seems to be repeating the same blunder in KP by maligning and smearing legitimate critics as traitors and concocting anti-state narratives.

No he didn't.

Those donkeys needed removal

The state can no longer allow these snakes to breed and act against Pakistan with impunity

We can no longer be trapped by the equations of the past,
Like everyone national state in the world we must now move forward to creat and comprehensive policy for state unity and defence


Anyone opposed to this needs to be removed

 

[Meengla]

No he didn't.
Those donkeys needed removal
The state can no longer allow these snakes to breed and act against Pakistan with impunity

Akbar Bugti... ahh, I remember way back in the 80s in my Karachi University classroom someone said "They [Akbar Bugti and the Baloch Sardars] even have their private armies and private jails". My memory is from the 80s!
And look up what Akbar Bugti did to his own tribesmen--displacing them and more. The current Chief Minister of Balochistan Mr. Sarfaraz Bugti will sure has a lot to tell about the so-called patriotic Sardar Akbar Bugti.
But you all see: The PTI fanbois would lionize Mujib ur Rehman or Akbar Bugti. They don't care for Pakistan as long as they can emancipate their loser loser Imran Khan!

 

[RAJPUT]

Soon whole kpk will be in Afghanistan
Bravo for creating a perfect enemy and geographical nightmare

Balochistan was lost ab Punjab hey rakh lo

I hope you know that losing KPK permanently would cross 2 of Pakistan's 'unofficial' nuclear thresholds. The first is the Spacial Threshold (loss of large piece of land) and the second is the Political Threshold (state's unity or survival is perceived to be at risk).

Yeah...

They're going to be blown to oblivion if conventional force is unable to be effective anymore. It will be a BAD day if it were ever comes to pass.

And Balochistan is not Bangladesh. East Pakistan was separated from the rest of the country by over a thousand miles of Indian territory. Balochistan is contiguous with the rest of Pakistan. The military, geographic, and political realities are completely different.

Also, 240+ million people won't just vanish into thin air.

 

[Psyko70]

I hope you know that losing KPK permanently would cross 2 of Pakistan's 'unofficial' nuclear thresholds. The first is the Spacial Threshold (loss of large piece of land) and the second is the Political Threshold (state's unity or survival is perceived to be at risk).

Yeah...

They're going to be blown to oblivion if conventional force is unable to be effective anymore. It will be a BAD day if it were ever comes to pass.

And Balochistan is not Bangladesh. East Pakistan was separated from the rest of the country by over a thousand miles of Indian territory. Balochistan is contiguous with the rest of Pakistan. The military, geographic, and political realities are completely different.

Also, 240+ million people won't just vanish into thin air.

No matter what pti claims more than 80 percent people there are not stupid to leave pakistan. Its just propaganda. Issue is those who have no issues dont form rallies in support of pakistan.

 

[Blain2]

Akbar Bugti... ahh, I remember way back in the 80s in my Karachi University classroom someone said "They [Akbar Bugti and the Baloch Sardars] even have their private armies and private jails". My memory is from the 80s!
And look up what Akbar Bugti did to his own tribesmen--displacing them and more. The current Chief Minister of Balochistan Mr. Sarfaraz Bugti will sure has a lot to tell about the so-called patriotic Sardar Akbar Bugti.
But you all see: The PTI fanbois would lionize Mujib ur Rehman or Akbar Bugti. They don't care for Pakistan as long as they can emancipate their loser loser Imran Khan!

People know how these sardars have always been. Only a few of them are magnanimous. Their surfs have severe Stockholm complex because whatever the sardars dish out, the poor people eat it up as if its some blessing. Most of these sardars consider their surfs lower than the ants under their feet.

However, since a general ruled the country at the time, what better excuse to beat up the military by claiming Bugti is a martyr...lionizing him, just like MuR as you have pointed out. Nobody talks about how Bhutto's democratic government fought the Baloch insurgents instigated by the sardars then or all of West Pakistan objecting to MuR's mandate.

The self-flagellation is constant and incessant.

 

[Blain2]

Soon whole kpk will be in Afghanistan
Bravo for creating a perfect enemy and geographical nightmare

Balochistan was lost ab Punjab hey rakh lo

I am sure KPK and Balochistan will find immense peace, security and prosperity as part of Emirate of Aghanistan.

 

[Blain2]

The PM’s aide also blamed Afridi and Saeed for the breakdown of negotiations between the government and PTI.

“The fundamental role in the failure of the negotiations was played by Sohail Afridi and the person sitting behind him, Murad Saeed,” he claimed.

Rana said the government had negotiated “in complete good faith” and offered PTI everything it had demanded, but claimed that Afridi and Saeed did not believe in resolving matters through talks with political figures.

I am not sure if I buy everything that Sanaullah says either. Obviously the actual truth is somewhere in the middle of what both sides say. Not sure in reality, how much control any one person has on the party.