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[Distant_Observer]

Khan was right. They are making Afghanistan enemy. The result can be an enticed response from Afghanistan etc to open another front.

میں بغیر کسی ابہام کے کہتا ہوں کہ افغانستان ایک دشمن ملک ہے، یہ پاکستان کو تسلیم کرنے والا آخری ملک تھا، ساری دنیا نے تسلیم کر لیا تھا، اس نے سب سے آخر میں تسلیم کیا تھا، وزیر دفاع خواجہ آصف​

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Afghanistan does not recognize Pakistan's borders and they are refusing to recognize they are hosting TTP and BLA.

They need to be realistic and call them out for their disrespect. Maybe this will give them the jolt to fix their ways. At the moment its willful ignorance on their part.

Imran Khan has always been clueless on matters of national security. He didn't attend a single NSC meeting during his tenure. His opinion is worthless on this topic.

 

[Goenitz]

Afghanistan does not recognize Pakistan's borders and they are refusing to recognize they are hosting TTP and BLA.

border is a political issue and we can easily convince IEA covertly. No govt is strong enough in Kabul to openly accept the demarcation till far future.

The TTP/BLA is due to both IEA connivance and capacity. For rag tag militia, we shouldn't make all of Afghanistan an enemy. Just keep engaging while taking coercive measures against border control. Why should we make IEA and TTP closer and closer? Even TTP is fighting internally, so IEA may act against TTP later.

 

[maxpane]

Bolded part and a gold quote. Indeed, a state like Pakistan has to work 'around the people'. Why open even more fronts then already opened? Sad to see a balanced person like @PakAl can't see that. But then I suspect he is another Imran Khan supporter, hoping for the return of the Messiah Khan to power, while occasionally slapping Imran on the wrist. Plenty of Pakistanis, especially of the expats from Western countries, in this forum, are like him. Such a sad thing to observe when people are infected by a certain Virus they can't let go of.



One may benefit from looking up the election images from 2013: The PPP, the MQM, and the ANP politicians cowering while the Messiah Khan was out surrounded by people, literally hugging distance, during the election campaign that year

he praised them they protected him and his party .

 

[Forsvaret]

Khan was right.

Tell that to @Xestan @Meengla @Areesh

 

[Forsvaret]

Afghanistan does not recognize Pakistan's borders

Who is in govt in Afghanistan?
Afghan Taliban
Who aided and abetted Afghan Taliban during the 90s?
Fauj
Who aided and abetted Afghan Taliban when they took over Kabul again after American exit?
Fauj
Who shields TTP and doesn’t recognize borders of Pakistan?
Afghan Taliban
Who is the real culprit in this mess up?
Fauj
There I solved it for you.

 

[Forsvaret]

The states works around the people.

If the people are retarded the state adapts.

You have it all upside down. The State is the people. The people are the State. There is NO Fauj anywhere.

 

[Goenitz]

Tell that to @Xestan @Meengla @Areesh

Anybody can have any opinion. No issue.

I am just surprised that IK is in jail, but still he can foresee that. Why are we suddenly making an excuse to attack Afghanistan?

 

[Forsvaret]

I am just surprised that IK is in jail, but still he can foresee that.

Imran Khan is a student of history and politics. He has read more books in prison than Fauj has ever done in their academies.

Why are we suddenly making an excuse to attack Afghanistan?

The same reason we joined US war on terror.

 

[Forsvaret]

Just Look at his 'Oxford' university life, his marriages in chronological order.

And you assume the lavish lifestyle of Faujis is any better than his?

 

[Meengla]

And you assume the lavish lifestyle of Faujis any better?

Ahh, repeating the 'Faujis' and the 'Establishment' since the Messiah Khan taught you those nice words just a few years ago in order to try to get back to power after he introduced the non-sense about 'Absolutely Not' or 'Imported Government' or about 'Haqeeqi Azadi' (real freedom) non-senses.
The idiot you expats support reads Machiavelli and he knew that to gain power back, he had to tap into Pakistanis' deep Anti Americanism and for that, regrettably, one full year was allowed to him, and so he become 'popular' to Pakistanis. If he was a Sindhi, he wouldn't be allowed a full year for his BS. But he was Punjabi and thus allowed the time. ZAB too tried the anti American tricks in 1977 as he lost power but he was not a Punjabi and was quickly swatted down.

 

[Forsvaret]

Ahh, repeating the 'Faujis' and the 'Establishment' since the Messiah Khan taught you those nice words just a few years ago in order to try to get back to power after he introduced the non-sense about 'Absolutely Not' or 'Imported Government' or about 'Haqeeqi Azadi' (real freedom) non-senses.

American cipher that threatened Pakistan to take the matter head on unless Fauj removed Imran Khan from power turned out to be real. What "nonsense"?

SECRET PAKISTAN CABLE DOCUMENTS U.S. PRESSURE TO REMOVE IMRAN KHAN​

“All will be forgiven,” said a U.S. diplomat, if the no-confidence vote against Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan succeeds.

Secret Pakistan Cable Documents U.S. Pressure to Remove Imran Khan

“All will be forgiven,” said a U.S. diplomat, if the no-confidence vote against Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan succeeds.

theintercept.com

 

[alphapak]

Then he married the witchcraft lady like Bibi Bushra.

You talk alot of sh!t, have you got any proof that Bushra Bibi does witchcraft
or is it just trust me bro?

 

[Forsvaret]

You talk alot of sh!t, have you got any proof that Bushra Bibi does witchcraft
or is it just trust me bro?

Trust this bro

 

[gamaji]

Khan was right. They are making Afghanistan enemy. The result can be an enticed response from Afghanistan etc to open another front.

میں بغیر کسی ابہام کے کہتا ہوں کہ افغانستان ایک دشمن ملک ہے، یہ پاکستان کو تسلیم کرنے والا آخری ملک تھا، ساری دنیا نے تسلیم کر لیا تھا، اس نے سب سے آخر میں تسلیم کیا تھا، وزیر دفاع خواجہ آصف​

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Looking at history one finds that Afghanistan has always acted as an enemy of Pakistan since 1947. Majority of Pakistanis don't really know how Afghanistan has been acting against Pakistan, at times by bringing lashkar to attack Pakistan.

Sardar Daud was the first Afghan ruler who realized (in 1978) the futility of that one-sided animosity towards Pakistan and started a process of rapprochement to normalize relations between the two neighboring countries. Foreign powers (read USSR) saw that and abruptly killed/toppled him. Not long after that, Soviets directly occupied Afghanistan in December 1979. Since then Pakistan has been supporting Afghans by hosting millions of them in Pakistan.

Every Afghan government (puppet of a foreign power or otherwise) has been acting against Pakistan's interests, at times stabbing in our back. These illiterate and ignorant Taliban have proved themselves being the worst of all. Hanood and Yahood are using them as an effective tool against Pakistan.

The credentials of IK himself are questionable. He has done everything that hurt Pak and benefited Indians and Zionists and so the pain in Hindutva and Zionist necks caused by the failure of project Imran is not surprising. One common sense thing is not to allow two enemy moles/assets get united.

 

[Forsvaret]

The credentials of IK himself are questionable.

Yepp.