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[Oscar]

Within 24 hours of this interview , we all know what happened. But Ayub khan already destroyed West Pak harmony and was too late anyway...but yes...this is the knowledge about ground reality of these Generals ..

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The problem is we are all assuming these generals came out of the skies or were imposed on us. Why?
Why this victimhood when even the supposed messiah's we select are willing to say "you are the true boss" to Generals?

Heck, go further back - all the way to the musical chairs starting with Ghulam Mohd - you will see the seeds of division, of the establishment(which I say again is NOT THE BLOODY MILITARY BOYS ALONE but an entire group of OLD BOYS). in the former unionists, in elitists and so on that immediately pounced once Quaid e Azam passed.


Where did Iskandar Mirza come from? He just gathered more power than the others - albeit he did not commit economic corruption and died in poverty in London.

 

[Forsvaret]

Within 24 hours of this interview , we all know what happened. But Ayub khan already destroyed West Pak harmony and was too late anyway...but yes...this is the knowledge about ground reality of these Generals ..

What I fail to understand is that when Field Marshal General Ayub Khan was ousted from power after mass public protests, how come those protesters at that time even "accepted" him getting replaced by another military dictator General Yahya Khan? Does it even make any logical or rational sense? Then the same thing repeated over and over again with one military dictator replacing his former, always keeping the true power concentrated in his hands, ruling Pakistan with iron fist covertly or overtly, depending on his mood.

 

[Forsvaret]

Why this victimhood when even the supposed messiah's we select are willing to say "you are the true boss" to Generals?

That’s actually not true. Imran Khan did say (multiple times actually) that Pakistan’s military is more important than him or any person for that matter. Which is why he keeps trolling Hazrat Asim Muneer from his prison cell and showed no restraint when he was going after Hazrat Qamar Javed Bajwa.

 

[HAIDER]

What I fail to understand is that when Field Marshal General Ayub Khan was ousted from power after mass public protests, how come those protesters at that time even "accepted" him getting replaced by another military dictator General Yahya Khan? Does it even make any logical or rational sense? Then the same thing repeated over and over again with one military dictator replacing his former, always keeping the true power concentrated in his hands, ruling Pakistan with iron fist covertly or overtly, depending on his mood.

It people of Pakistan reject, but endorsement come outside. US, Britain or Saudis etc. Ayub and Yahiya endorse by US, Zia ul Haq endorse by US/Charlie Wilson. Musharraf /911 and now this COAS/Abraham Accord and good relations with Israel.
There is no connection between citizens of Pakistan and ruling elite class. They have huge army of slaves on the ground and endorsements and funds come from foreign land and in return, you fight Afghan war or help killing Palestinian / Black September ...its long list of dirty sins , we do for others...

But Musharraf was last hope who had full power and had public support to brought some changes.

 

[Oscar]

That’s actually not true. Imran Khan did say (multiple times actually) that Pakistan’s military is more important than him or any person for that matter. Which is why he keeps trolling Hazrat Asim Muneer from his prison cell and showed no restraint when he was going after Hazrat Qamar Javed Bajwa.

You haven't proven why it is not true and only reinforced what I said regarding IK also bending over. He is a Bajwa and Faiz project after all.

This only tells me regardless of IK's politically motivated ass kissery or rebellion that it is innate to this land to give up freedoms willingly under the guise of a "stable" system.
They are more open to getting beaten on their heads by shoes every morning and cussed for a stable meal rather than actually going hungry for a while to get their rights.

 

[Forsvaret]

He is a Bajwa and Faiz project after all.

I am surprised how people call Imran Khan a "project" of Bajwa & Faiz. What were their military ranks when IK entered politics back in 1996 with his own party PTI? If Imran Khan really needed generals to come into power, he wouldn’t be waiting more than 20 years for that. Or choosing to stay in prison instead of cutting a deal with them since last 2 years.

 

[Forsvaret]

It people of Pakistan reject, but endorsement come outside. US, Britain or Saudis etc. Ayub and Yahiya endorse by US, Zia ul Haq endorse by US/Charlie Wilson. Musharraf /911 and now this COAS/Abraham Accord and good relations with Israel.

So how do you suggest people of Pakistan break this cycle of foreign powers endorsing the country’s unelected military dictators, over and over again?

 

[HAIDER]

So how do you suggest people of Pakistan break this cycle of foreign powers endorsing the country’s unelected military dictators, over and over again?

Unity, until or unless they don t come out and show the anger and remove by force, they will remain victim of Black vigo. These elites don t believe in ballot box. And economically deprived nations does not have hope and energy to fight these elites, they are waiting for miracle ...

 

[Forsvaret]

Unity, until or unless they don t come out and show the anger and remove by force, they will remain victim of Black vigo.

Exactly! I have independently reached the very same conclusion and thus highly disagree with IK’s "peaceful" protest approach. I hope he gathers his wits after what this illegitimate ruling elite just did with Pakistan in their 27th amendment.

 

[Oscar]

I am surprised how people call Imran Khan a "project" of Bajwa & Faiz. What were their military ranks when IK entered politics back in 1996 with his own party PTI? If Imran Khan really needed generals to come into power, he wouldn’t be waiting more than 20 years for that. Or choosing to stay in prison instead of cutting a deal with them since last 2 years.

Because you see it as a myopic claim.
By stating that it means IK's win in 2018 was not going to be possible without the engineering of Bajwa and Faiz.
I am surprised people think IK could have won then without the Army actively helping.
Pigs would fly before the PML(N) and PPP infested system would even allow any actual votes for PTI.

 

[Forsvaret]

I am surprised people think IK could have won then without the Army actively helping.
Pigs would fly before the PML(N) and PPP infested system would even allow any actual votes for PTI.

So basically, all that "help" from military was simply breaking free the infestation of PMLN and PPP over Pakistan’s election system?

 

[Goenitz]

his COAS/Abraham Accord and good relations with Israel.

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[Forsvaret]

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Another tweet where Imran Khan said something someone didn’t like in his past.

 

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