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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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Gen Asim Munir, and he is just as guilty as his predecessors.

Except that he is not the direct subject matter of this particular thread.
you mean idiot, egotistic, clown, pawn, liar, Ameer ul moimineen wannabe, dictator Asim Munir or just simple Asim Munir?

Except that it is not the direct subject matter of this particular thread.
But it is, my friend. Without the Army leadership and the hybrid regime, we wouldn’t even be talking about IK here.
 
you mean idiot, egotistic, clown, pawn, liar, Ameer ul moimineen wannabe, dictator Asim Munir or just simple Asim Munir?

I mean General Asim Munir, the current COAS.

Once the person is specified, anyone may choose whatever adjectives they may wish to apply. I will call him out for treason and illegal activities done by the military on his watch just the same as I called them out for his predecessors.


But it is, my friend. Without the Army leadership and the hybrid regime, we wouldn’t even be talking about IK here.

Except that IK is the DIRECT topic of this thread, and NOT the military. IK is refusing to deal with the military and as the title suggests, IK is only hurting himself with this strategy.

However, I would like to know more about this mysterious long game that was alluded to above as IK's masterful strategy.
 
Pakistan's ballots are not a reflection of the will of the people: not the ones that put IK in power, and not the ones that put SS in power, like all elections before in Pakistan's history.

A true revolution would indeed happen if enough people cared to change the country. Clearly, they are content with what they have, and hence there is no revolution.

A revolution is the will of the people? Do you understand what you are asking for?
 
I mean General Asim Munir, the current COAS.
Bro you think IK is a bad character and that’s why you use harsh words against him. But treason is a far bigger crime and if you really care about Pakistan, a traitor should be the most hated person of all. You believe Asim Munir is a traitor but you don’t use the same harsh language for him.
Except that IK is the DIRECT topic of this thread, and NOT the military. IK is refusing to deal with the military and as the title suggests, IK is only hurting himself with this strategy.

sure but politics isn’t just about IK, there's judiciary, constitution, parliament, elections, army, and the people. No one man can be the center of it all. And if IK is hurting himself by going anti-establishment, that’s actually good for Pakistan’s politics overall, better than using GHQ as a shortcut to power like PDM did.
 
Not odd, I'm just abiding by forum rules.

Which rule? While you at it, how we, who dont agree with the title of the thread can put forth our arguments without bringing his only political opponent?
 
A revolution is the will of the people? Do you understand what you are asking for?

An Arab spring style revolution you so badly crave will put terrorists, extremists and ethnofascists in charge who will rip Pakistan and its identity to shreds. India will invade Azad Kashmir and anything else they can get their hands on.

Then you will protest in front of US and UK embassies abroad demanding justice for Pakistanis.

Congratulations you are now a stray dog of the world that will be beaten with a stick whenever anyone feels like it. Enjoy your democracy.
 
Bro you think IK is a bad character and that’s why you use harsh words against him. But treason is a far bigger crime and if you really care about Pakistan, a traitor should be the most hated person of all. You believe Asim Munir is a traitor but you don’t use the same harsh language for him.


sure but politics isn’t just about IK, there's judiciary, constitution, parliament, elections, army, and the people. No one man can be the center of it all. And if IK is hurting himself by going anti-establishment, that’s actually good for Pakistan’s politics overall, better than using GHQ as a shortcut to power like PDM did.

He is a disguised #fanofasimmuneer :cool:
 
A revolution is the will of the people? Do you understand what you are asking for?

LOL. I am pointing out is the fact that the will of the people can be stopped only up to a point, and never beyond that.

If enough people want change, then change cannot be stopped, no matter how heavy handed or brutal the suppression. How that change is achieved, gradually, or suddenly, with or with disruption, is a byproduct of how educated and civilized a society is.

That is all.
 
Which rule? While you at it, how we, who dont agree with the title of the thread can put forth our arguments without bringing his only political opponent?

 
An Arab spring style revolution you so badly crave will put terrorists, extremists and ethnofascists in charge who will rip Pakistan and its identity to shreds. India will invade Azad Kashmir and anything else they can get their hands on.

Then you will protest in front of US and UK embassies abroad demanding justice for Pakistanis.

Congratulations you are now a stray dog of the world that will be beaten with a stick whenever anyone feels like it.


OOeeeyy retard... READ first and give rest to your itching fingers. I am NOT the one suggesting revolution, your fellow disguised #fanofasimmuneer is.

And that is THE reason where IK has been calling for peaceful protest against the these tyrants in GHQ. Pakistan simply cannot afford a bloody revolution. And this weakness of Pakistan is known by these generals and they exploit it.
 

Thats your tunnel vision understanding of the "off topic". Please pay attention when I said, that IK cannot be discussed in vacuum without his main political rival sitting in GHQ.
 
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