PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[El Sidd]

So, Pakistan isn’t really a functioning country. It merely exists because of some kind of perpetual Bughz against India?

It's as functional as any household.

you lose every argument....

What do you do with so much winning?

 

[Forsvaret]

That was him not knowing how to avoid a VONC in the first place. Even he admitted USA had nothing to do with it.

The leaked contents of that infamous cipher say otherwise. But since you already claim that IK is a liar, so I don’t really understand why you’re believing him this time?

 

[VCheng]

He was chasing obedience. Student of history our Imran.

Well, that did not work out so well for IK either, just like all his other "brilliant" ideas.

 

[VCheng]

The leaked contents of that infamous cipher say otherwise.

I am not going to rehash any of that debunked BS again. The cipher's contents were a lie that even IK himself later retracted. Move on, that stain on IK's face is permanent.

 

[Forsvaret]

IK wanted to do even more along the same lines!

Nope. Riyasat e Medina didn’t mean more Islamization of Pakistan. If you had read the original Constitution of Medina, you’d not have such misconceptions:

Islamization usually means less freedom for non-Muslim communities. That wasn’t the case for Riyasat e Medina.

 

[Forsvaret]

The cipher's contents were a lie that even IK himself later retracted.

So you fully believe in IK when he says something that matches with the "reality" in your head?

 

[VCheng]

That wasn’t the case for Riyasat e Medina.

So what has that to do with what IK claimed he would create? And just how could he have done that given the people he chose to be around him?

 

[VCheng]

So you fully believe in IK when he says something that matches with the "reality" in your head?

Nope. I verify his statements against other known facts and sources and only a few of the things he says pass such a verification.

 

[Forsvaret]

So what has that to do with what IK claimed he would create?

Short version:

Long version:
"Islamic touch"

 

[VCheng]

Short version:
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Long version:
"Islamic touch"

And how did that any of that actually come true during his tenure?

 

[Forsvaret]

Nope. I verify his statements against other known facts and sources and only a few of the things he says pass such a verification.

Ok, let’s try this again one last time. The contents of that cipher as leaked by US investigative journal 'The Intercept' were the same as what IK claimed, which was the same as his other cabinet ministers (who saw the original cipher in cabinet meeting) claimed such as Shireen Mazari. Now, unless, all these people are lying and only you’re speaking the truth, I will side with those sources I cited above.

 

[VCheng]

Ok, let’s try this again one last time.

Let's not.

 

[Forsvaret]

And how did that any of that actually come true during his tenure?

Not good because Pakistan’s military establishment doesn’t really believe in any concept of Riyasat other than their Faujistan.

 

[Forsvaret]

Let's not.

Yepp. It’s probably for the best as we’d only end up disagreeing once again.

 

[VCheng]

Not good because Pakistan’s military establishment doesn’t really believe in any concept of Riyasat other than their Faujistan.

That statement is pretty solid, and I can accept it.