PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[gamaji]

Mansoor Ali Khan did a hard-hitting video yesterday about Imran's sisters going on Indian channels. But then I am not at all surprised by the lack of principles and opportunism of this so-called political party called PTI. You know, America toppled him, then it was not America, then his sons pleading the same America for his restoration? Can these people sink any lower?!!
Here is Mansoor's powerful video. English captions should be available.

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It should be. These filthy internal enemies must be exposed to the people of Pakistan.

Zionists and Hindutva terrorists were actively supporting their mole in Pakistan but somewhat hiddenly. The PTI yo*thias, on their part, never condemned their masters for their war crimes and terrorism. Now both sides are getting desperate.

I am sure they will get even more exposed during the coming weeks. Their desperation is getting uncontrolled.

 

[Meengla]

I am sure they will get even more exposed during the coming weeks. Their desperation is getting uncontrolled.

Imran's sisters going to Indian media and that too over the 'fake news' of Imran's death or physical harm not only shows their desperation but also opportunism. I don't know why some Pakistanis here give so much credence to this mob of a 'political party'?!! It is a Goddamn Mob!

 

[gamaji]

I am not that old. Had no understanding of how things worked back then.

That was also rigged by the army.

Bhai @VCheng, what's the point to waste your time on such immature delusional dudes?

 

[Cipher212]

Bhai @VCheng, what's the point to waste your time on such immature delusional dudes?

Does the army rig elections in Pakistan? Yes or No answer please.

 

[gamaji]

Does the army rig elections in Pakistan? Yes or No answer please.

You first tell me about 2018 elections.

 

[VCheng]

Unfortunately that is not how it works in Pakistan and to win elections you don't need popular support but support of one specific idaara.

Unfortunately that was equally true BOTH when IK came into power, and also when he left power.

His popularity was just as manufactured as his downfall. One cannot accept only one part that one happens to prefer, that is all.

 

[VCheng]

My point is in an open election, he wins.

How would you know when we all know there is no such thing as open and fair elections possible in Pakistan?

It was rigging when NS came, and rigging when IK came, and rigging when SS came. ALL the same: idiots selected when useful, and discarded when no longer needed.

 

[Cipher212]

You first tell me about 2018 elections.

I think you both seem to be mistaken that I am biased for Khan like that. Yes I support him but I've also pointed out numerous times he should not have become establishment pet.

Anyways, please tell me. Does the Pakistani military violate its oath and rig elections in Pakistan? Do you agree or disagree?

 

[VCheng]

Does the Pakistani military violate its oath and rig elections in Pakistan?

Absolutely!

ALL the time. EVERY time.

 

[Cipher212]

How would you know when we all know there is no such thing as open and fair elections possible in Pakistan?

It was rigging when NS came, and rigging when IK came, and rigging when SS came. ALL the same: idiots selected when useful, and discarded when no longer needed.

The previous election was rigged and the current pro establishment coalition won. That is the 'official' result where the pro-army parties won.

However they did such a bad job of rigging it this time that through the election forms we can see that PTI was winning around 170-180 seats. Which means, if it had been a real election, Independents/SIC would have clear majority to form govt without even needing a coalition. This alone is a huge threat for the military. They prefer civil govts to be barely functioning coalitions as that is easier to control and pressurise.

 

[Cipher212]

Absolutely!

ALL the time. EVERY time.

I know you agree man, been reading your posts here and pakwheels for years. I am just curious what this Mohib e Watan with a tiger profile picture thinks.

 

[Meengla]

Which means, if it had been a real election, Independents/SIC would have clear majority to form govt without even needing a coalition. This alone is a huge threat for the military. They prefer civil govts to be barely functioning coalitions as that is easier to control and pressurise.

This is another 'Urban Myth' in Pakistan that the military wants to control everything in Pakistan. I don't believe the impacts of DHA, the Fauji Foundation etc etc are that blood sucking until the Messiah Khan started his 'narrative' which flipped a lot Pakistanis, especially the Overseas Pakistanis, to 'buy' that BS. My understanding is that the military would rather have the civilians manage the economy and all affairs except matters related to Pakistan's foreign affairs/security, with a huge focus on India.

BTW, Imran was NEVER a threat to the Establishment. He kept repeating 'same page 'until close to the NCM vote when he realized that the military had decided to not support him anymore.

 

[gamaji]

Does the army rig elections in Pakistan? Yes or No answer please.

You first tell me about 2018 elections.

I am still waiting for your response.

Were 2018 general elections in Pakistan rigged? Yes or No answer please.

 

[Cipher212]

I am still waiting for your response.

Were 2018 general elections in Pakistan rigged? Yes or No answer please.

I literally just said Imran was establishment pet in previous post, thats how he won in 2018. Now please answer my question.

 

[Cipher212]

This is another 'Urban Myth' in Pakistan that the military wants to control everything in Pakistan. I don't believe the impacts of DHA, the Fauji Foundation etc etc are that blood sucking until the Messiah Khan started his 'narrative' which flipped a lot Pakistanis, especially the Overseas Pakistanis, to 'buy' that BS. My understanding is that the military would rather have the civilians manage the economy and all affairs except matters related to Pakistan's foreign affairs/security, with a huge focus on India.

BTW, Imran was NEVER a threat to the Establishment. He kept repeating 'same page 'until close to the NCM vote when he realized that the military had decided to not support him anymore.

Translation: Army offloads the more menial administrative tasks to the civilian government while holding the crown.

It also operates numerous businesses under the umbrella of its fauji felware trust. Once again, it is odd that a military is involved in multi billion dollar business.