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[VCheng]

And military generals didn’t have 70+ years to defeat India and retake Pakistan’s jugular vein of Kashmir? Did you also call that a patent lie? Or this kind of criticism is only reserved for civilian leaders?

Did the Generals put out an election manifesto that they said they would implement? IK did. What did he actually achieve?

Pointing fingers at others is pathetic whataboutery that fails totally in holding IK accountable for what he promised to the nation.

And if he failed just as all the others you point out, then how does he deserve any respect more than all the other thieves who similarly lied to the nation?

You have absolutely no legs to stand on here.

 

[Forsvaret]

Imran's considerable reliance on his Witch Wife were already talked about while he was the PM of Pakistan.

By whom? By Hazrat Asim Muneer who just lost his job as DG ISI under IK tenure?

 

[Forsvaret]

Did the Generals put out an election manifesto that they said they would implement?

No. They just put out their guns on the people like always who dared to oppose their illegitimate rule over Pakistan.

 

[VCheng]

Oh, Imran had the power.

No more and no less than all the other puppets. He is no leader, but a boot licker just like all the others who were installed.

Only that IK was stupid enough to get kicked by the same boots he licked far sooner than others, that is all.

 

[Forsvaret]

Pointing fingers at others is pathetic whataboutery that fails totally in holding IK accountable for what he promised to the nation.

Accountability comes after gaining real power not like all PM’s of Pakistan get through military establishment’s clutches.

 

[VCheng]

No. They just put out their guns on the people like always who dared to oppose their illegitimate rule over Pakistan.

More useless whataboutery.

Please answer the real questions in my previous post, otherwise our interaction ends in this thread too.

 

[Forsvaret]

So IK had no real power to keep his promises? Poor fella. Teen saal siraf hawai fire kerta raha?

He spent 3 years to understand the "system" from within. He then chose long prison term instead of cutting a short deal with military establishment for this very reason.

 

[Forsvaret]

Please answer the real questions in my previous post, otherwise our interaction ends in this thread too.

I won’t play on your pitch. All of your posts sound like if IK is the "only" PM in Pakistan’s history who failed to implement his promises or who licked boots to come into power or who was sent to prison after falling out with the military establishment. IK is far from being alone in all this. However, he now sits in the same boat as Sheikh Mujeeb or Bhutto who chose long prison term over any kind of deal with those who imprisoned them aka military establishment of Pakistan.

 

[VCheng]

All of your posts sound like if IK is the "only" PM in Pakistan’s history who failed to implement his promises or who licked boots to come into power or who was sent to prison after falling out with the military establishment. IK was far from being alone in all this.

EXACTLY. IK was the SAME as ALL the other idiots. Not any different. And worthy of the SAME contempt as all the other liars deserve. No exceptions from me for anyone.

And if you will not play on a fair and equal pitch, then we are done. You can carry on with your delusions and cult worship as you wish.

Reality remains what it is - REALITY.

 

[Forsvaret]

And if you will not play on a fair and equal pitch, then we are done.

Again, you sound like if there is a "fair" pitch to begin with?
Sheikh Mujeeb for example never did any kind of deal with military establishment to come into power, and he was still imprisoned and refused his legitimate right to govern Pakistan.
How do you explain that with your "they’re all the same" logic?

 

[Meengla]

And if you will not play on a fair and equal pitch, then we are done. You can carry on with your delusions and cult worship as you wish.

I may be wrong on this but I think IK was given an option to join hands with the PPP-PMLN to form a unified civilian block--something which Benazir and Nawaz engineered in 2006 (?) but IK was too arrogant, too stupid to think long term and thought he could forever have the Establishment supporting him.
Well, he remains too stupid and too arrogant to this day because despite the advice from his 'political party' leadership, he boycotted the recent By-Elections. Such a lifelong STUPID leadership!

 

[Forsvaret]

I may be wrong on this but I think IK was given an option to join hands with the PPP-PMLN to form a unified civilian block…

Just like current "unified" block called PDM licking boots as usual to stay in power "forever"?

 

[Forsvaret]

Well, he remains too stupid and too arrogant to this day because despite the advice from his 'political party' leadership, he boycotted the recent By-Elections.

You have problem when he runs in elections. You also have problem when he boycotts an elections. The problem is not IK then but in yourself.

 

[VCheng]

Well, he remains too stupid and too arrogant to this day because despite the advice from his 'political party' leadership, he boycotted the recent By-Elections. Such a lifelong STUPID leadership!

It is okay, since he now must bear the consequences of his own choices and decisions.

Reality can be a real beyootch sometimes.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

He spent 3 years to understand the "system" from within. He then chose long prison term instead of cutting a short deal with military establishment for this very reason.

this, singly, is the most comical post here!

and the result is, what we are witnessing today!