PTI News, Updates and Discussion
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Abdul q
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Reported for being abusive
Watandar
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I do want peace between Afghanistan and Pakistan and no more killing for sake of dollars, dirhams and riyals. I know that ruins a Fauji income stream, but oh well.
Watandar
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Leave it. They are utterly losing the politics, the public narrative and the historical record. All they have is bullets on street and abusive language in media.
Abdul q
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What historical record other than turning Pakistan to pieces, and losing more territory to india post 1971 conflicts ? Oppressing mass, massacres after massacres in KP and balochistan… and most recently in all major cities even capital
unconventional
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Imran Khan was soft with the TTP, and let them regroup inside Afghanistan against the Pakistani state. His strategy of trying to talk to terrorists failed. Because terrorism was still ongoing under his watch, as well as multiple ceasefire violations by the TTP. None of these things made him anti-Pakistan.
Calling the Durand Line, which is an undisputed international border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, as a “British invention”; and not forcing Afghan stakeholders to accept it as the international border made him anti Pakistan.
Watandar
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The resettling of TTP terrorists was Army strategy and follows a long long pattern of negotiating peace deals with militants, that include letting them stay in Pakistan and even paying them. It was happening before and after Imran Khan. The first of these deals was with Nek Muhammad, the pro-TTP around 2002. This is part of "good Taliban, bad Taliban".
The Durand Line is a British creation, just like India and Pakistan.
HAIDER
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Only talks and better border security required on Pak Afghan border. We been fighting WOT in KPK for the last 35 years, outcome is zero.
Today, DGISPR again threat to Imran Khan bare knuckle/metal response, which is already going on.
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Abdul q
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This narrative is wrong with no proof or record…. You can keep repeating it all you want… the terrorism index in those 3 year speak volume…. The incapable army couldn’t achieve peace in decades of ‘land grabbing’ operations and IK brought peace by just one master stroke of stopping drone attacks and bringing all parties to table… US ran away as well and the chosen army think they can somehow win?
Yes they can as i pointed out before they will try to use izryeli model and do a genocide…. Anything for masters…
unconventional
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It was the strategy that was spearheaded by Imran Khan, and implemented by the military.
The Durand Line is the international border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, as recognized by the whole world. No talks are possible with the other side when they don’t recognize your right to exist.
HAIDER
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Here is deep details. It is fact PTI govt did excellent work stop terrorism in Pakistan.
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Watandar
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The failed strategy existed long before Imran Khan and after him as well. He was merely the public face. Even as we speak, the TTP and Army are negotiating yet another deal. Who will you blame for that ?
Yes Durand Line is the international border between Afghanistan and Pakistan and both countries recognized each other long time back. Talks absolutely are possible and have been happening for last 70 years. I dont know what you are talking about.
Abdul q
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That’s when army should be used… use ISI for that purpose being number 1 can do wonders if employed well
Master Chief
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I don't follow your analogy for multiple reasons.
It's a poor one, unless you think some sort of South Asian reunification is worth exploring?
India can be argued to be a British "creation". Pakistan was not. Our people, Muslim League, Jinnah, Iqbal snatched it from the British and the Indians. Or do you actually believe London would preferentially midwife a self sufficient and resilient muslim majority nation? London would have preferred that we were all permanently under the saffron yoke.
Abdul q
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I will use common sense here…
What makes these germs think that if my house is violated, or my neighbour’s house is violated and i can hear screams of torture and forced abductions while growing up… what i see is people in plain clothes, sometimes in uniform what kind of impression would that leave on my mind? Will I become a patriot? Army loving person…. Or otherwise? This idea of turning masses will hit back again… they have been hit in balochistan, KPK will be hit differently…
And remember in AJK there was zero mobility on grounds and they had to accept AJK demands on table after getting arse handed over
What makes these germs think that if my house is violated, or my neighbour’s house is violated and i can hear screams of torture and forced abductions while growing up… what i see is people in plain clothes, sometimes in uniform what kind of impression would that leave on my mind? Will I become a patriot? Army loving person…. Or otherwise? This idea of turning masses will hit back again… they have been hit in balochistan, KPK will be hit differently…
And remember in AJK there was zero mobility on grounds and they had to accept AJK demands on table after getting arse handed over
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