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[Oscar]

PTI without Imran khan would be a popular separatist party representing 20-30 million people

This is the biggest risk to me - It may not be PTI but could rebrand or have mass movement to PTM.

IK needs to be pacified with his madness and let out. Who knows, someone in the mediocrity of Pindi is taking notes on IK being an old man. Let him be the third force in the farce musical chairs of PML, PPP and so on - he is old and eventually his Big Old D energy desire for the chalice will lead him to focus on that again.

 

[Oscar]

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Which is rather odd, or did Jeffery mean it from the perspective of Imran's Big D energy? - after all, both him and Epstein share an out of control libido so maybe that is the actual threat he saw.

 

[Oscar]

Well you cannot put the genie back into the bottle. PTI is a political party that now exists not only on the provincial level but also at the federal level. People can choose whether to support Mr Imran Khan and PTI or not to, their motivations vary. The public support for PTI is clearly demonstrated by its supermajority in KPK and the Establishment's ferocious rigging to steal its votes in Punjab and at the federal level in 2024. The enduring public support for PTI is also clearly demonstrated in how obsessively the Establishment and its puppet political parties are focused on it and the heavy crackdown on it, including the jailing and lawfare its leader has been subjected to.

I do agree with you on the part that Pakistan wasted almost a decade in the experiment, but that to me further discredits the idiotic and treacherous Establishment of Pakistan, not PTI. There are limited paths to power in an autocracy and one cannot blame Imran or Nawaz or Zulfiqar or anyone else for using the system as it exists to come to power in the first place.

What they do with that power and prominence is what matters.

That is very true, to absolve Dr Frankenstein of the monster he created is the greater crime.

After all, all the creature wanted was a bride and people to love him regardless of his monstrous acts.

At the end of the day, the establishment did what it does best. Have great ideas but execute them in the most rushed idiotic manner possible. Be it IK or Kargil or Op Gibraltar or Taliban- no idea of the "what ifs" nor understanding of ground realities.

Bas - "Banda acha hai sir, I think it will work sir - lets do it - btw great shot sir, great birdie!".

 

[Jango]

This is the biggest risk to me - It may not be PTI but could rebrand or have mass movement to PTM.

IK needs to be pacified with his madness and let out. Who knows, someone in the mediocrity of Pindi is taking notes on IK being an old man. Let him be the third force in the farce musical chairs of PML, PPP and so on - he is old and eventually his Big Old D energy desire for the chalice will lead him to focus on that again.

IMO you've already lost the people of KP for the most part. Not because PTI alone, but a whole host of factors.

Time to think the consequences of your actions in earnest rather than going on a MAGA like rant against IK all the time, and having a desi Karoline Leavitt spew BS.

 

[Oscar]

IMO you've already lost the people of KP for the most part. Not because PTI alone, but a whole host of factors.

Time to think the consequences of your actions in earnest rather than going on a MAGA like rant against IK all the time, and having a desi Karoline Leavitt spew BS.

PTI will just provide it the populist "legitimate" bandwagon because the opportunity to settle it was lost in 2014.

The day the establishment rethinks the consequences of it actions and actually tells the public about it will be the day Hazrat Israfeel will be pulling in a big breath.

But I continue to maintain that IK was, is and will remain an egoistic one trick pony who was at best left to be president - his achievement and more so of the team that rallied around him was PTI as the change the educated middle class was finally seeing possible - then he sank it all like he played cricket -
If you look at all other commentators on his captaincy style the common theme was:

- Strongly backed some players and sidelined others on decisions which his peers said was stubborn or personality‑driven rather than purely form‑based., and could be inflexible once he made up his mind.

- His intense focus on certain all‑rounders and fast bowlers ignoring many other styles because he did not understand them well, and his preference for attacking cricket, which led to overly bold declarations or aggressive field settings that backfired many times.

Guess who did not analyze that or themselves we not qualified to analyze the character they were backing?

 

[F.O.X]

PTI without Imran khan would be a popular separatist party representing 20-30 million people

Its as simple as that.. question is can the state keep half of the population together..last time it tried it failed (bengal was 50 population)

(If KPK becomes anti Pakistan separatist along with balchistan which already is then sindh automatically will follow and thats 50% of population)

Last time bengal had india backing, this time Afghanistan may have anyone/superpower backing if such a fault line comes in front dont be surprised we get the Sudan or Indonesia treatment and someone comes in and redraw the line as per wishes of people..

Also army has gravely mis calculated the amount of action it would need in full insurgency in kpk, this isnt bengal

PTI without IK will disintegrate, IK never bothered to train any leadership fearing they will take over his role.

 

[Cash gk]

So the West wants IK to stay behind the bars?

No, they are making sure people of Pakistan do not lead by their chosen leader. They are making sure Pakistan is ruled by corrupt people.

 

[Cash gk]

 

[Cipher212]

So the West wants IK to stay behind the bars?

They wouldn't care about Khan. Their concern is broader. They don't want any sort of leadership in Pakistan that might try to make it more independent. The west is not some evil entity they're just looking out for their own interests. It happens to be in their interests that Pakistan not ever become too independent in its foreign policy.

It also makes their job very easy when we have plenty of people ready to sellout the entire country for a new passport.

 

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[Watandar]

PTI without IK will disintegrate, IK never bothered to train any leadership fearing they will take over his role.

Did the murder of ZAB lead to the PPP disintegration ? No because his daughter unexpectedly took the reins and surprised the establishment. Did her eventual murder lead to the PPP disintegrating ? No her husband unexpectedly took the reins and outwitted the establishment.

So why do you expect an established party like PTI to disintegrate if Mr Khan is eliminated ?

If you are thinking in the back of your mind I will just do to Imran/PTI what was done to Bacha Khan and NAP/ANP, which is relentless jailing, exiling, killing, let me tell you PTI enjoys support far far broader than NAP/ANP ever did.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Did the murder of ZAB lead to the PPP disintegration ? No because his daughter unexpectedly took the reins and surprised the establishment. Did her eventual murder lead to the PPP disintegrating ? No her husband unexpectedly took the reins and outwitted the establishment.

who will take the reins then , if ik is gone

 

[F.O.X]

Did the murder of ZAB lead to the PPP disintegration ? No because his daughter unexpectedly took the reins and surprised the establishment. Did her eventual murder lead to the PPP disintegrating ? No her husband unexpectedly took the reins and outwitted the establishment.

So why do you expect an established party like PTI to disintegrate if Mr Khan is eliminated ?

If you are thinking in the back of your mind I will just do to Imran/PTI what was done to Bacha Khan and NAP/ANP, which is relentless jailing, exiling, killing, let me tell you PTI enjoys support far far broader than NAP/ANP ever did.

PPP survived ZAB and BB because it was a real party with ideology, internal structure, district-level organisation and generational loyalty. PTI has none of that. It is a personality cult built entirely around one man. IK never groomed successors, never allowed independent leaders to rise and ran the party like a solo brand. That is why every major PTI figure scattered within days after May 9.

 

[Meengla]

who will take the reins then , if ik is gone

Imran's sons are too smart to come to Pakistan. Why bother risking your lives when you can hump chicks like their father did in the UK before the father turned a 'born again Muslim' in his old age? Similarly, Sanam Bhutto was smart enough to stay away from the poisonous waters of Pakistan's politics--and thus she lives and lives a good life.
Maybe Imran's sisters? But one sister was recently seen chanting 'Shahadat, Shahadat, Shahadat!' (Martyrdom!!!) for her brother's political cause. The other is a so-called 'doctor' tied to the party of wanna-be 'martyrs'. Or maybe Imran's Witch Wife could lead PTI, using her considerable ESP powers and/or 'Roohaninat'? Imran's fanbois must be so 'spoilt for choices'. Hahahaha!!!