PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[VCheng]

These types of events puts a lot of pressure on the establishment

Not really, but PTI can keep trying and see if anything will work for their purposes. Thus far, they have not found any traction at all.

 

[Forsvaret]

Because that's exactly what I predict with a high degree of confidence should he be given the power again!

That’s none of your business! Let the people of Pakistan decide who is worthy to be given power through the power of their vote. Or just continue like the country has been run under permanent military dictatorship since the first martial law of 1958!

Not really, but PTI can keep trying and see if anything will work for their purposes. Thus far, they have not found any traction at all.

Then why can’t DG ISPR Babu simply stop doing political pressers against IK / PTI if what they’re doing hasn’t found any traction at all?

 

[VCheng]

Oh, just to make it clear to those whom common sense has totally passed by, just as IK is entitled to try as he might, his opponents are equally entitled to do the same for their interests.

That is how real life goes, and one must have a minimum of two brain cells needed to pick opponents carefully and plan accordingly.

 

[Forsvaret]

Just as IK is entitled to try as he might, his opponents are equally entitled to do the same for their interests.

Not true! IK is only allowed to try everything within the govt or establishment imposed "rules" — meanwhile his opponents can do pretty much they feel like such as stealing IK’s public mandate, throwing him in prison on trumped up charges, not letting him to meet anyone for weeks at a time etc…

 

[Forsvaret]

…pick opponents carefully and plan accordingly.

Plan "accordingly" here would imply IK continuing with his boot licking of military establishment. He has simply stopped doing that ever since they backstabbed him back in 2022!

 

[airhead]

These types of events puts a lot of pressure on the establishment

It not sustainable ..the army thinks they will quash the awaam like they have done before but cannot keep doing it . This time it is different..the awaam is not backing off. There will not be political stability unless the Feb 8 elections are restored and all bogus cases are thrown out. Look what happened in adiala today ..water chemicals being thrown on elderly women. You can’t keep doing that . The breaking point is coming ..PTI should sustain this pressure and at some point the police and army will back off and at that point game over. Asim munir, Shahbaz, nawaz, zardari will be rushing g to their helicopters to flee to Dubai and there will be a massive and painful revolution. Those left behind ..well it will be a painful end for them ..eg vawda and tarar

 

[Forsvaret]

The breaking point is coming ..PTI should sustain this pressure and at some point the police and army will back off and at that point game over.

That’s right! This fascism can only continue unabated as long the foot soldiers of the military regime are following their orders. Once they join on the revolutionaries’ side — the game is finally over for the military establishment!

 

[VCheng]

This time it is different..the awaam is not backing off.

Backing off from what exactly? Tea and biscuits?

Because they surely are nowhere to be seen outside, they must be cozy in their drawing rooms having tea and biscuits. Nothing to back off from there, unless it is into their bedrooms to go to sleep.

As for those who are still dreaming of a mutiny in the military, dream on!

 

[Forsvaret]

Because they surely are nowhere to be seen outside…

If Awam is "nowhere" to be seen outside, are they (military establishment) using water canons to disperse imaginary people?

 

[Forsvaret]

As for those who are still dreaming of a mutiny in the military, dream on!

And as for those who are still dreaming of IK boot licking the military establishment again, dream on!

 

[airhead]

Backing off from what exactly? Tea and biscuits?

Because they surely are nowhere to be seen outside, they must be cozy in their drawing rooms having tea and biscuits. Nothing to back off from there, unless it is into their bedrooms to go to sleep.

As for those who are still dreaming of a mutiny in the military, dream on!

Did you see what happened at adiala ? Or were you reading the censored outlets . There is so much hatred right now that is not describable …I did not see that even during the Bhutto saga. This time it is going to be massive. The awaam is waiting for a small trigger and you will see a sea of people and you just cannot stop them

 

[Forsvaret]

Did you see what happened at adiala ?

Nope, he only sees the "reality" which exists inside his own 'know-it-all' head!

 

[airhead]

And as for those who are still dreaming of IK boot licking the military establishment again, dream on!

Asim munir and his stooges are taking the country down …we generated 1.7 percent growth since this govt took over in 2022. IK generated 6 percent annuallyin his last two years. India just posted 8 percent in an economy that is 10x larger. Asim zardari and sharifs don’t get it ..they think a loan here , a loan there some investment here some mineral deal here will solve the problem. No this is not sustainable . This is top down thinking typical of military and old school folks. We need to unleash the Pakistani awaam to take on the next generation of challenges by creating new businesses. Etc. we need to build the supply chains ..train our top brains . We need to create global enterprises that can compete in a global level. Only IK can unleash this in our awaam ..bloody nawas and zardari don’t give a shit ..they are as we speak sucking out last ounces of blood . IK only got 3 years but in reality only one year due to Covid and our industrial base was growing and our exports were record high. IT was booming and there was a lot of excitement and hope in our youth ..yes hope ..that was what I saw but now the numbers of people leaving or want to leave have skyrocketed. This top down approach has been tried by Zia, Musharraf and Ayub and you cannot create a sustainable future economy. We are losing time .. the world is bypassing us. Army cannot solve this problem..they need to focus on what they need to focus on which is training to fight India and getting Kashmir back as well as Hyderabad and junagarh ..that is all they need to think about. Asim munir brain needs to focus on outclassing Indian army just as the PAF did not haram khori in politics. This stupidity is not sustainable . Itbis a matter of time but we are losing time every moment that this continues

 

[airhead]

It's all lies. Shameless lies from a convicted criminal and his cohorts.

Being a convicted criminal, he is enjoying more perks than any criminals has the world over. Specially cooked food (mutton or desi chicken cooked in desi ghee, fruits, dry fruits, juices, foreign chocolate, etc. all on daily basis), TV, daily newspapers, exercise & study facilities, groups of visitors, etc. What else he wants?

He was even running political campaigns against the government and the state of Pakistan and all that was in a clear and continuous violation of the law and supreme court rulings.

Now the jail authorities have stopped his political meetings. If that is deemed as physical torture, then so be it. The convicted criminal is not above the law.

What specifically is a lie? He is in solitary confinement ..UN has written a scathing letter reprimanding this govt of inhumane behavior . Solitary confinement is considered torture.

 

[VCheng]

Did you see what happened at adiala ?

A few wannabe miscreants were dispersed using non-violent means. How big of a deal would that be?

This time it is going to be massive. The awaam is waiting for a small trigger and you will see a sea of people and you just cannot stop them

Oh, so "this time" will be different than all the previous times this was claimed. Okay, good. But I will believe it when it actually happens.

Next Tuesday perhaps?