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Bajwa wanted to ‘resettle’ Pakistani Taliban​

Mazari pins blame for terrorism upsurge on incumbent govt

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News DeskFebruary 18, 20232 min read
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PTI leader Shireen Mazari. PHOTO: FILE

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Dr Shireen Mazari, a senior leader of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), has claimed that following the Taliban’s takeover of Kabul in August 2021, General (retd) Qamar Javed Bajwa, the former army chief, suggested the resettlement of Pakistani Taliban in Pakistan.

She made these remarks during an interview with a private TV channel just as Pakistan witnessed an upsurge in terrorism, with the latest incident being an attack on the Karachi Police Office on Friday night.

The PTI leader claimed that when the former army chief brought up the matter, Gen (retd) Faiz Hameed, the former director general of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), was also present.

Also read: Imran urges president to order inquiry against former COAS Bajwa

She claimed that the general was of the view that the TTP comprises some Pakistani families “who want to return to the country”, and they could be resettled if they accepted the Constitution and laid down their arms.

Mazari, however, said that the suggestion had led to an “immediate reaction” from the elected party members, and a meeting was called in this regard.



The meeting then decided to form a committee comprising both elected representatives and military officials to reach a consensus, she added.

She also said that her party wanted consensus to be a precursor to dialogue, but then their government was ousted and the successive government “did not care” about the specifics. She pinned the blame for the upsurge in terrorism on the incumbent government.

The PTI leader also maintained that Gen Faiz had initially visited the Afghan government, not the Taliban.

Read more: Imran say he "drew flak while Bajwa called the shots"

On the topic of Imran’s request for legal action against Gen Bajwa for breaching the Constitution, Mazari stated that the party was considering all options but did not provide further information, citing the confidentiality of certain matters.

When asked if Gen Bajwa had shown any favoritism towards India, Mazari declined to answer directly and instead stated that the Cabinet had decided not to engage in trade with India until it reversed its “illegal actions” of August 5.

Regarding the PTI chief's proposal to relocate the TTP families, she argued that the returning fighters had unresolved issues that needed to be addressed for the sake of peace in the region, and that negotiations were a better alternative to killing them all.

Imran had previously linked the increase in terrorist incidents throughout Pakistan to his removal from power and held the incumbent Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) government responsible for impeding the peace process.

"After the end of the Afghan war, around 30,000 to 40,000 Pakistani tribal fighters wanted to come back," he had said previously.

Bootlickers will never acknowledge or even attempt to counter this. We got plenty on this forum unfortunately.

 

[PakAl]

And that makes it okay? I don't understand the point you are trying to make.

Why do Pakistanis always gaslight themselves like this and make everything into a pissing contest.

Last 40 years has been about running around these afghandu apologists and cleaning up their mess. Since the 80s its been this nonsense.

For me it doesn't but for millions of Pakistanis it does. When our state gives space for extremist to walk around freely, Attend jalsas, open Islamic schools, maddrassas, collect donations and then when young children bomb schools then state cries terrorism. It's because you failed to protect them, give them real education, allowed people to exploit them. Pakistan needs to get its act straight.

 

[Distant_Observer]

For me it doesn't but for millions of Pakistanis it does. When our state gives space for extremist to walk around freely, Attend jalsas, open Islamic schools, maddrassas, collect donations and then when young children bomb schools then state cries terrorism. It's because you failed to protect them, give them real education, allowed people to exploit them. Pakistan needs to get its act straight.

The states works around the people.

If the people are retarded the state adapts. You need to stop blaming them for managing the situation and start blaming the amount of fools our western flank keep producing.

Our view on Afghanistan and TTP needs to remain consistent. No gaslighting, no apologising, no making excuses.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Prisoners are NOT allowed mobile phones in Jail. So it obviously that Mr Khan's Jewish handlers are dong all this. All these recent tweets about Khan not being released by his sons, Mr Khan's support of Taliban, his tweets about COAS, etc are ALL CONNECTED.

It was always hard for people like me to believe that Mr Khan who fuked around with Western chics all his life, married a Jew, spend a lavish life style, had his kids grow in the lavish life of London, all of s sudden had this HEART FELT CARE FOR PAKISTANI PEOPLE !!

THIS KHAN SCRIPT HAS JEWISH MAFIA WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

You will ALWAYS find most lowest IQ arguments from supporters of patwaran club / boot-league or slave mentality. People who will gladly accept the most hillarious & stupid narratives. Above is the living proof of it!

 

[ARMalik]

You will ALWAYS find most lowest IQ arguments from supporters of patwaran club / boot-league or slave mentality. People who will gladly accept the most hillarious & stupid narratives. Above is the living proof of it!

Yea of course Mr Khan's supporters have superior IQ but only in their rear ends. This "rear -end" thing is a common IQ disease amongst Mr Khan's supporters.

I strongly suggest you change your screen name to "IK-Rear End Warrior"

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Stop lying. This is what operations achieved in Pakistan.

Op Raah-e-Nijaat 2009, clear drop in terrorism after that.
Op Zarb-e-Azb 2014, massive drop in terrorism from next year.

Imran Khan didn't perform any miracle. Relative peace in his time was a result of previous Operations. The stats show he formed Government in 2018 when terrorism threat was already low. But during 2021, during his government, terrorism started increasing. And it continued to go up, even till the last day of him being Prime Minister.

In three months of 2022, under Imran Khan, we lost 100 soldiers.

LOL! History never lies! No matter if you spend your entire lifetime in twisting facts, you will never put a stain on him regarding terrorism.

Our discussion is about TERRORISM in Pakistan right? In which people with 0 % brain cell working is somehow trying to hilariously accuse Imran khan for that.

When terrorism started in Pakistan ? Just answer that. It was 2001 onwards when it really started hitting Pakistan. Was Imran khan the PM at that time? How on earth Imran khan was responsible for extreme terror from 2001 to 2018??

Or how was imran khan responsible for extreme terror indoctrination in 80's by Establishment ??

Or how even he is responsible now when he is in jail for last 3 years! You pathetic souls can accuse him all day for his alleged "tweet" ?? I mean why don't you guys die in shame that you can't take responsibility of law and order of the country yourselves. The puppet shehbaz and dictator General Zia 2.0 are responsible for whatever happening in the country. Its always the persons in-charge! Its not some alleged tweet by imprisoned national leader. It shows your intellect level and your political bias & brainwashing.

Gutless people with no integrity, no truth, only political bias running their mouth and accusing a jailed person for all the things that YOUR supposed leaders should answer for.

 

[HAIDER]

jo bhi ha...ya Turkey ma maza kar raha haa..... Escape from military custody ................lollllll

 

[Pak-Warrior]

IK sometimes do make stupid comments but that does not put responsibility of the blunders of the state on him.

Patwaran club / boot league be like:

Oh Imran khan did a tweet from prison. YES! let's put entire mess of 80 years, 50 years of corrupt by 2 dynasties and 25 years of terrorism on him:

IK responsible for US drones butchering our children & our sovereignty in Pakistan from 2000s to 2018.
IK responsible for Terrorism for last 25 years, that started from 2001 but lets forgets he came to power in 2018.
IK responsible for loss at East Pakistan. yes it was him!
IK responsible for hanging Bhutto. It was him ofcourse.
IK responsible for jihadifaction by establishment in 80's. Ofcourse he is taliban khan, he did that too.
IK responsible for Corruption in 90's, IPP agreement. Definitely!
IK responsible for US army humiliating Pakistan military and finding OBL in Abottabad in 2012?? (or he actually confronted US media and saved PA ?)

IK responsible for Capacity payment agreements by Boot-league
IK responsible for actually every blunder, every corruption that this country has gone through.


Patwaran club needs a scapegoat. That is IK. Its simple is that. Why its even so important to discuss alleged "tweets" but not do seek accountability from those in power in last 4 years. Those who have forced themselves into power while trampling national mandate and constitution? Why you are not questioning that why is state still a failure in dealing with terrorism ? Why is policy so flawed ? Imprisoned leader is not taking decisions of your country. He wasn't taking before 2018 (mess of 80 years) and he isn't taking after 2021. Even the three years in power the security paradigm was being taken care only by GHQ.

Every member of patwar khana jumps on alleged tweets but never finds guts enough to question the state on its policies for peak terrorism from 2001 to 2018 and post IK. But his alleged tweet becomes a security debate LMAO!

 

[Xestan]

LOL! History never lies! No matter if you spend your entire lifetime in twisting facts, you will never put a stain on him regarding terrorism.

Our discussion is about TERRORISM in Pakistan right? In which people with 0 % brain cell working is somehow trying to hilariously accuse Imran khan for that.

When terrorism started in Pakistan ? Just answer that. It was 2001 onwards when it really started hitting Pakistan. Was Imran khan the PM at that time? How on earth Imran khan was responsible for extreme terror from 2001 to 2018??

Or how was imran khan responsible for extreme terror indoctrination in 80's by Establishment ??

Or how even he is responsible now when he is in jail for last 3 years! You pathetic souls can accuse him all day for his alleged "tweet" ?? I mean why don't you guys die in shame that you can't take responsibility of law and order of the country yourselves. The puppet shehbaz and dictator General Zia 2.0 are responsible for whatever happening in the country. Its always the persons in-charge! Its not some alleged tweet by imprisoned national leader. It shows your intellect level and your political bias & brainwashing.

Gutless people with no integrity, no truth, only political bias running their mouth and accusing a jailed person for all the things that YOUR supposed leaders should answer for.

Please calm down and read my reply again, and then go to your original post.

You claimed 2018-2022 was so peaceful. I just destroyed your argument with facts and figures. And then you start ranting about 2001 and 80s.

Imran Khan is not the sole responsible for the mess we are in, but he's one of the poeple who's responsible for this. Every time Military has tried to take action against terrorists, he comes up with conspiracy theories and confuses the public. I can't care less for the zombies who follow him, but it creates space for terrorists in people's minds.

Now, the genius is saying that there could be false flag operation in KP, like TTP does not exist.

He calls Asim Munir anti-Taliban lobby. So does that mean he's the pro-Taliban lobby?

He admits it all yet his supporters argue like baboons, against all verified facts and figures.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Every time Military has tried to take action against terrorists, he comes up with conspiracy theories and confuses the public. I can't care less for the zombies who follow him, but it creates space for terrorists in people's minds.

Ohh I see! An alleged "tweet" from him becomes a security debate and that's warranted a 7 page discussion on defense forum. If he's that important even from prison that nation only listens to his "tweets" then your fake leadership is totally worthless.

Point is you have the country for last 4 years. You had it till 2018 as well. Just done with the terrorism now. Your policies CREATED terrorism at first place. Now deal with it.

How come IK is relevant now from the prison?? How come we know its his tweet with full authenticity ?? and how come he be aware of what's going on in the country ?? I can't imagine IK be aware of exact situation of the country. You have placed him in a tiny dark cell with no connection of outside world. Yet his alleged tweet becomes biggest talk of the town.

Instead YOU should be asking questions with current Zia 2.0 regime and puppet shehbaz. JUST ask that why is that for 4 years since you guys are in power the terror is systematically being on rise. Either you guys are incompetent OR you guys are complicit. There cannot be other explanation.

 

[Xestan]

Ohh I see! An alleged "tweet" from him becomes a security debate and that's warranted a 7 page discussion on defense forum. If he's that important even from prison that nation only listens to his "tweets" then your fake leadership is totally worthless.

Point is you have the country for last 4 years. You had it till 2018 as well. Just done with the terrorism now. Your policies CREATED terrorism at first place. Now deal with it.

How come IK is relevant now from the prison?? How come we know its his tweet with full authenticity ?? and how come he be aware of what's going on in the country ?? I can't imagine IK be aware of exact situation of the country. You have placed him in a tiny dark cell with no connection of outside world. Yet his alleged tweet becomes biggest talk of the town.

Instead YOU should be asking questions with current Zia 2.0 regime and puppet shehbaz. JUST ask that why is that for 4 years since you guys are in power the terror is systematically being on rise. Either you guys are incompetent OR you guys are complicit. There cannot be other explanation.

Imran Khan controls the the province which is the source of this militancy. He is on record calling his Provincial Government to resist any Military Operation in KP.

His MPAs in Assembly openly disrespect martyrs. Recently, they passed a resolution to withdraw Aid of Civil Power Act.

So, yeah, it's not just a tweet. It's a policy statement from the ring leader, whose thugs are in charge of the war zone.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Imran Khan controls the the province which is the source of this militancy. He is on record calling his Provincial Government to resist any Military Operation in KP.

His MPAs in Assembly openly disrespect martyrs. Recently, they passed a resolution to withdraw Aid of Civil Power Act.

So, yeah, it's not just a tweet. It's a policy statement from the ring leader, whose thugs are in charge of the war zone.

You really think IK controls KP from jail ??

LOL! PTI real leadership is all in jail. Shah Memood, Yasmine rashid, etc etc...

The ones in power can't do jackshit without establishment approval. KP whole security policy is in hands of military. Even Police answers to Establishment.

Which planet you really live in ? Again telling a fake, hilarious narrative. IK can't even talk to anyone outside without military listening. Which kind of nasha you do my friend? Do you really link IK is controlling KP & security policy from his dark tiny cell ?

 

[Xestan]

You really think IK controls KP from jail ??

LOL! PTI real leadership is all in jail. Shah Memood, Yasmine rashid, etc etc...

The ones in power can't do jackshit without establishment approval. KP whole security policy is in hands of military. Even Police answers to Establishment.

Which planet you really live in ? Again telling a fake, hilarious narrative. IK can't even talk to anyone outside without military listening. Which kind of nasha you do my friend? Do you really link IK is controlling KP & security policy from his dark tiny cell ?

So, basically, KP Government is under the Army? Why hasn't Imran Khan asked his MPAs to topple the government yet?

 

[airhead]

Maybe, maybe not. But to what extent Imran's supporters going to go 'owning' Imran's more balanced Twitter posts and disowning his rants?? This has been going on for years.
Well, forget Twitter, what about the rants of wishy washyness from this sisters, senior party members, and even his sons? This group of clowns, which gained popularity because the stupid Establishment of Pakistan allowed them to use a full one year to ride on the anti-Americanism of Pakistan, has Imran's sons pinning their main hopes on America? You know, the same America which did the 'Regime Change' because of 'Absolutely Not!'?

How low can this group of clown go? How naive the supporters, expecially the expat Pakistanis be?? There is absolutely NO REDEEMING QUALITY about this Clown Khan and his 'political party'. He is an 'atavism' of thought and social evolution in every way. He is a Zia ul Haq reborn--another hypocrite using 'Islam' as crutches to Power.

He does not support ttp. He is thinking of a long game and people like you won’t get. This has to do with the fact that pak army is really doing what the west wants which is to fragment the Muslim lands and keep pak and Afghanistan fighting’s west does not want unity btw Afghanistan and pak

 

[Xestan]

He does not support ttp. He is thinking of a long game and people like you won’t get. This has to do with the fact that pak army is really doing what the west wants which is to fragment the Muslim lands and keep pak and Afghanistan fighting’s west does not want unity btw Afghanistan and pak

Lol. This is not early 2000s. So no one is going to fall for this propaganda again. The West that you're referring to is actively funding Taliban. Their officials just visited a few days ago. In fact, Taliban are getting dollars every week that they then use to target us.