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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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Question for PTI supporters. If some how Imran Khan type political figure emerges in China to challeng CCP, would you guys support him/her? If yes do you know the consequences for Pak China relationship and in hypothetical scenario if Imran Khan was stil PM and if he was to support democratic party in China?
Wasnt it also hypocritical of Imran Khan to stand with Putin who has eliminated almost every other political figure who has opposed him?

Oh. I can play this too.

What if Dajjal appears in Washington DC ovel office as President of USA ? Will respected COAS and Shahbaz Sharif still tweet congratulating him and giving him gift of minerals extracted from Pakistan ?
 
Oh. I can play this too.

What if Dajjal appears in Washington DC ovel office as President of USA ? Will respected COAS and Shahbaz Sharif still tweet congratulating him and giving him gift of minerals extracted from Pakistan ?

Dajjal would love hypocrites
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Are you out your mind islamic empire was never ruled by military it ran on the system called khilafat which was basically election being held with in it. Even if khalifa nominated his secussors if the shura didn't agree the khilafat wouldn't be transfered to them. The closest system to it would be democratic presidential system in todays time.

Biggest example would be Hazart Umer R.A changing the most popular and powerful general (Khalid bin Waleed R.A) during an ongoing war with that times super power persia because he was elected khalifa. And Khalid bin Waleed R.A a military leader and most secussful one at that was never a khalifa. His startegies are part of military studies till today.

And If your talking about after khalifas then your talking about kingships which is not islamic system but sytem of that time like todays democracy.

Every Muslim ruler from Prophet mohammed to salahudin to tipu sultan fought battles. The decision makers and advisors to the rulers were warriors not non combatant civilians. It would be the military ruler who would approve civilians in government roles not the other way around.
You can paint Islamic system with your dajjali democratic system but the facts remain facts.
Imran Khan has no importance with Islamic prophecies because he is done.
He should have listened to his daddy Asim Munir and worked under his command like a good boy.
 
Dajjal would love hypocrites
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He went there and told Potus that he will have relationship with Russia as well. And then he did so. Which you made cause for his removal. We all remember that Shahbaz Sharif speech where he said "kana kilaany Waly haath hy america Kay usko na chero. Beggars can't be choosers".

So yah. That was different.

Now let's come to my previous question. What will SS do if Dajjal become POTUS ?
 
Every Muslim ruler from Prophet mohammed to salahudin to tipu sultan fought battles. The decision makers and advisors to the rulers were warriors not non combatant civilians. It would be the military ruler who would approve civilians in government roles not the other way around.
You can paint Islamic system with your dajjali democratic system but the facts remain facts.
Imran Khan has no importance with Islamic prophecies because he is done.
He should have listened to his daddy Asim Munir and worked under his command like a good boy.
What are you saying are even listening to your self the reason they were warriors was because every muslim man young or old was fighting during those time there were no "civilians" but as soon as a khlifa was elected they were considered as president away from battle field.

If it was based on military merits than you wouldn't have Abu Bakr R.A (the most merciful and peace loving) as 1st, Hazarat Umer R.A as 2nd (a nation builder constitutionalist) 3rd Hazarat Usman R.A (a Business man Economist) and 4th Hazarat Ali R.A (bravest of the bravest and a mighty warrior)

Above all of it they were elected. Non of them came to power through sword or martial law they were elected and were peoples representatives so no they were not in power like the generals which came to power after toppling peoples representatives through Martial Law because they felt like people are stupid and only they are intelligent.

Like i said khalifat is closest to a presidential system how? its simple:

Household select there elder
Elders select 1 person to represent the tribe
Tribe or tribes select 1 person to represent them in shura
Shura elects the Khalifa a peoples representative

Same way we have MPA MNA are elected by people and Prime minister elected by people representatives and than the presidents.

If your generals want to be like them tell them to get elected dont impose martial law because their power hungry and consider themselves as some holy cow.

Lastly a Muslim way of ruling ended when khilafat ended than it was kingship which was a system of that time. Why are you not calling kingship as dajjali system it also has roots from the west? Hypocrite enough?
 
Every Muslim ruler from Prophet mohammed to salahudin to tipu sultan fought battles. The decision makers and advisors to the rulers were warriors not non combatant civilians. It would be the military ruler who would approve civilians in government roles not the other way around.
You can paint Islamic system with your dajjali democratic system but the facts remain facts.
Imran Khan has no importance with Islamic prophecies because he is done.
He should have listened to his daddy Asim Munir and worked under his command like a good boy.
Asim munir might be your daddy but According to the constitution and Quaid e Azam and i qoute:
"Do not forget that the armed forces are the servants of the people. You do not make national policy; it is we, the civilians, who decide these issues and it is your duty to carry out these tasks with which you are entrusted"
 
Imran khan is their guru and bhagwan but a day will come when there will be no shaytan khan of mianwali, and then PTI will have to be a carbon copy of mqm Pakistan.
 
Imran khan is their guru and bhagwan but a day will come when there will be no shaytan khan of mianwali, and then PTI will have to be a carbon copy of mqm Pakistan.
Well i think any politically party follower is better than worshipper of the holy cow (DHA builders) which is basically the root cause of all the problems.
 
I’ve been revisiting Imran Khan’s statements and tweets about talking to Afghanistan and negotiating with the TTP, and I genuinely want to understand PTI’s position, beyond slogans. When PTI says “we should talk to Afghanistan,” who exactly are they referring to?
  • The Afghan Taliban government?
  • The broader Afghan state?
  • Or Afghan refugees in Pakistan?
  • If TTP attacks affect all of Pakistan, why does PTI name only KP, Afghanistan, and Afghan refugees as stakeholders? Should foreign refugees have a say in how Pakistan’s provinces are run?
Because if the idea is to talk to Afghanistan about the TTP, that implies PTI believes the Afghan Taliban have influence or control over the TTP, right? And if that’s true, doesn’t it also mean the Afghan Taliban are tolerating or protecting a group attacking Pakistan? Then how exactly would dialogue work? What leverage does Pakistan have to make the afghanistan/Taliban act against their ideological allies? The Taliban also no longer need Pakistan’s support the way they did during the insurgency. In fact, relations have deteriorated, border skirmishes, trade restrictions, and refugee issues have all soured goodwill. So what exactly will you talk about?

What about the TTP’s demands themselves? They include:
  • Imposing Sharia in Pakistan’s tribal belt
  • Releasing militants from prison
  • Political recognition of their ideology
  • Territorial control
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How would PTI negotiate around these? Does “talks” mean concessions to these demands, or just partial agreements? If PTI negotiates and grants TTP concessions , what happens when they start enforcing Sharia in tribal areas, policing women and shutting schools?

Now that India is re-entering Afghanistan and Mutaki is threatening Pakistan from there, how does PTI expect talks to work? The ‘stakeholder’ they rely on is meeting your arch enemy, what kind of strategy is this?

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Negotiating with a party that may align with India is dangerously naïve. With the TTP already a threat, India’s presence in Afghanistan risks a second front, making dialogue without leverage a risky gamble for Pakistan’s security.

IBO, are not working with high casualty rates, and the attrition of our soldiers have reached unsustainable levels, around 60 dead in the last 20 days; the army has signalled it’s planning a new operation along the lines of Zarb‑e‑Azb and already has a strategy. How do we answer to the parents of those dying daily when one pillar of state policy pushes hard military action while another insists on talks?

I’m genuinely curious to hear from PTI supporters: what’s the endgame here, temporary peace, or managed coexistence with militants?

FYI i do not give a shit about whether they have mandate or not, i genuinely need to understand the psyche behind this approach, which hasn't worked ever.

PTI is part of the Afghan problem. It's run by a ghaddar of mianwali who believes in one thing only; that he's the best person in Pakistan at least if not in the world and so he deserves to be the dictator of this country for his lifetime....
This shaytan of adiala has been known as a Jewish agent too because of his marriage with a Jewess from a Zionist family, his association from British government, his support from the American government.
During the time of the war on terror, this zakat khor freeloader was directly or indirectly giving support to the Afghan and Pakistani tribal terrorists who were attacking Pakistan's armed forces.
I wonder why, perhaps due to American pressure General Pasha, General Zahirul Islam, Shukria Raheel Sharif and General Bajwa decided to give life to this dead horse, more accurately this smelly dog against ungrateful Nawaz Sharif (ungrateful in the sense that Nawaz was a brainchild of the military establishment)...and so this cancer of the cancer hospital was descent upon the prime minister house of Pakistan.
Since he uses 'khan' with his name and hates 'niazi', he succeeded in attracting pashtoons of khaiber pakhtoonkhwa. Other than misusing his name, he attracted pashtoons by siding with Pathan tribals and TTP directly or indirectly against Pakistan's armed forces.
Through an infectious narrative taught to him by his establishment masters he was able to gain support of Punjabis too using social media deceptively.
He's in fact the political version of Mirza ghulam Ahmed qadiani who's misguiding people from the right path to the path of satan...practically he acted like a prophet of the accursed group of youthias.
 
Well i think any politically party follower is better than worshipper of the holy cow (DHA builders) which is basically the root cause of all the problems.
PTI is one of the illegitimate children of DHA builders like ppp, mqm, noon league, TTP, tlp. Be honest and accept that Imran khan is also a najaiz-aulad of the military establishment who rebelled like bhutto, Nawaz and Altaf. Nothing new with Imran Niazi...he's an ordinary test tube baby of DHA builders.
 
Well i think any politically party follower is better than worshipper of the holy cow (DHA builders) which is basically the root cause of all the problems.

All these 600K goons take a jhooti kasam (oath) in front of Allah and then break it.
Then when they are knocked off they think they are shaheeds. Just listen to their
oath taking ceremony.
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PTI is one of the illegitimate children of DHA builders like ppp, mqm, noon league, TTP, tlp. Be honest and accept that Imran khan is also a najaiz-aulad of the military establishment who rebelled like bhutto, Nawaz and Altaf. Nothing new with Imran Niazi...he's an ordinary test tube baby of DHA builders.

Another f@ujeet goon accepting that the Generals broke their oath of not to
interfere in politics.

All these Generals should be hanged from the lampposts of Rawalpindi.
 
All these 600K goons take a jhooti kasam (oath) in front of Allah and then break it.
Then when they are knocked off they think they are shaheeds. Just listen to their
oath taking ceremony.
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During his oath taking ceremony the bhagwan of youthias also took a jhooti qasam and became a thief of tosha Khana as well as a beneficiary of bahria towns haram ki kamai.
 
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