PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

I dont think Imran Khan will ever become PM again with the current establishment in power, what does he offer which Shabaz Sharif doesnt. But PTI can eventually make a come back minus Imran Khan, and they have done so in KPK and in the opposition.


I dont think people like you understand

this isnt about Imran Khan .. it is what Pakistan will become in the next 10 to 15 years

ie A stupid tinpot dictator nation like North Korea where no body wants to live or a Pakistan envisaged by Jinnah.
 
What a lame excuse, but he is still going to remain loyal to Israel and will always recognize Israel.


so basically you admit.. you will forever be incompetent...

but then again that was your global reputation...
 
QOUTE "What a lame excuse, but he is still going to remain loyal to Israel and will always recognize Israel."

Dont you patwaris ever get tried of lying?....

education for combo of patwaris who love yahodi sazish

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the real story behind who was after Israel's recognition ..

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every accusation is your own confession

Musharraf and Sharon shake hands​

Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon shook hands at a reception just before the start of the United Nations summit.



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2005: When Pakistan and Israel explored closer bilateral ties

 
Even a matric pass with slight common sense is enough to defeat any PTI cult argument.
It seems like PTI cultists collectively have decided to take anti Pak narrative stance because they are desperate to play victim. You haven't seen how Russia or Iran deals with its political opponents. Anyways.....
Military in politics should not be an alien concept for the PTI cultists since they are the onse who have used this Riyasat e Medina churan to gain mass public support.
I suggest you go over this thread and educate yourself instead of repeating the same old mantra "fouj belongs in border saar". If you were alive during Mughal or Ottoman empire and actually said that to a Fouji they would probably chop your head off. The point is, military has always controlled politics throughout Muslim history. Its only zionist freemason illuminati invented democratic system that separates religion and military from politics.
Thread 'Military Involvement in Politics in Muslim History' https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/military-involvement-in-politics-in-muslim-history.33438/

Pakistan lost every war?
You do realize that India has always been the larger military and they still have not able to achive their objective which is annexation of AJK GB and many other parts of Pakistan. this is no longer just a rumor but a reality which duffer Imrandos do not understand. Both congress and BJP are in a same same agreement. Just open any GB related video and half of comments are filled with "its India saar". Other then East Pakistan debacle which btw should have been an independent nation from the beginning due to its geographical location. Kargil, and Siachen has no strategic value for India they are there because it used to be strategic value for Pakistan during 80s and 90s. Atleast Pakistan has militarily tried over the years to force India to table talk over Kashmir issue.
The only non Arab Muslim country to shoot down Israeli jets, fought covert war against Soviet union who btw killed millions of Afghans and graped 1000s of women. Participated in endless successful UN missions.. today its Arab allies are looking for alliance with Pakistan. China sees it as its strategic partner. Iran sees it as its neutral ally. If Pakistan military was a military of defeats and losers like Imrandos and their pojeet bros portrays it to be then the above would not have been possible. Atleast say that Pakistan won 2019 and 2025 skirmishes.
Imrandos and Phalvalists are one of the biggest self loatheing despicable human beings on earth.
PTI sold this churan "hum Amreka kay agay nahi jhukay gai" to get sympathy vote from emotionally charged awam and yet almost every other Imrando cultists is hiding in America. Atleast try to get votes truthful way and not deceitful way. Tell the awam under PTI leadership its wont be just absolutely yes in front of US but also India. The only reason Imran Khan said absolutely not to a journalist question was because PTI popularity was in the decline and were desperate for sympathy votes.

I actually tried to read this for once but I stopped when you said military in politics should NOT be an alien concept.


This shows how mentally enslaved you are by the status quo. The cultist are not the PTI supporters here but you. You cannot fathom a Pakistan that isn't a slave to its own military or one where the military is even wrong. You just can't accept it in your mind that's why you come here every other day to defend Fauj.

All of those mini achievements you're listing like shooting down Israeli jets are nonsense in the grand scheme of things. You have to win WARS not singular battles. Did the Pak Army ever do that? No.

Saying that Pakistan won in 2019 and 2025 is also irrelevant because these were 1-4 day skirmishes over some bomb blast in Kashmir. It's India huffing and puffing for PR purposes. We've had real wars and we've failed to win them.

You are also using Roman and Mughal empire now to justify why Fauj isn't border. You even talked about having my head chopped off. I know that is what Fauj supporters fantasies about civilians all day. Have you ever been educated in school as to what Pakistan is? We are not some modern day Sparta. Our system clearly mandates that Fauj remain on border. We are supposed to be a civilian led Democrat Republic (at least in paper).

This country was created by a civilian lawyer named Jinnah. Not your loser faujies. Remember that.
 
so basically you admit.. you will forever be incompetent...

but then again that was your global reputation...
??? Is that response to Imran Khan who chose to build connection with British Zionist family and Epstein and Maxwell network? Wont be surprised if he took donations from Epstein for a hospital he always brags about. So its not just Nawaz Sharif’s donation but also Epstein 😂
 
I actually tried to read this for once but I stopped when you said military in politics should NOT be an alien concept.


This shows how mentally enslaved you are by the status quo. The cultist are not the PTI supporters here but you. You cannot fathom a Pakistan that isn't a slave to its own military or one where the military is even wrong. You just can't accept it in your mind that's why you come here every other day to defend Fauj.

All of those mini achievements you're listing like shooting down Israeli jets are nonsense in the grand scheme of things. You have to win WARS not singular battles. Did the Pak Army ever do that? No.

Saying that Pakistan won in 2019 and 2025 is also irrelevant because these were 1-4 day skirmishes over some bomb blast in Kashmir. It's India huffing and puffing for PR purposes. We've had real wars and we've failed to win them.

You are also using Roman and Mughal empire now to justify why Fauj isn't border. You even talked about having my head chopped off. I know that is what Fauj supporters fantasies about civilians all day. Have you ever been educated in school as to what Pakistan is? We are not some modern day Sparta. Our system clearly mandates that Fauj remain on border. We are supposed to be a civilian led Democrat Republic (at least in paper).

This country was created by a civilian lawyer named Jinnah. Not your loser faujies. Remember that.

You lied about stopped reading half way but it looks like you took your time finish reading my entire post where I exposed PTI hypocrisy.

I am not a blind follower of Pak Fauj and will criticize them where it needs to be.

So were Muslims slave to its Fauj during 600 to 1900s? Its you pro illuminati freemason zionist invented democracy hypocrites who use Islam to get votes from emotionally charged awam. Stop using Islam for votes and I wont have most problem with PeeTI. What was that whole Riyasat e Medina drama all about if Democracy is the only solution for Pakistan?

Wasnt securing our part of Kashmir enough victory for yall? Or was rund1 ronna dhona at UN the only action IK and PTI would have taken if they were in charge? Because IK was never in favor of military action against India. How is 1948 war a defeat? How is 1965 a defeat when locals Kashmiris refused to take up arms against Indian occupation? Didnt Pakistan thwarted indian retaliation in multiple fronts such as Lahore and Sialkot?
1971 was the only defeat and this would have been avoided if East Pakistan was a separate nation due to its geographical location.

You think shooting down Israeli jets and winning covert war against USSR is a small thing? Ok...... so why hasnt India able to secure Pakistani "occupied" Kashmir (which PTI cultists have started calling it)? Wouldnt 1970s 1980s been the best opportunity for India to invade GB and AJK since Pakistan lost all wars with them? Indians and you guessed it, PTI cultists also run away from this logical question.

So you are referring to historical 1000 years old Muslim ruling system model as some backward barbaric system? Ok, then ask your PTI and Imrand Khand to stop using Islamic ruling system in speeches which is a deceitful tactic to get sympathy from Muslims. Riyasat e Medina ka churan baij kay votes liyan hain.
 

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