PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

Not necessarily correct. Plenty of them come to western nations and start the under table deals, bring the bribery and fraud culture with them. Anyways the point is where will we find the clean people who will make sure the funds are not misused, it will be the same people who will build roads, bridges, schools etc. The only difference is the old guard will be retired and new hungry people will come in charge. The only change is if corruption, incompetence, bribery, corruption, nepotism is at 95% level, it will be reduced to just say 80% but after so many years we will face the same problem. The society as a whole needs to change, which will take decades till the new generation takes charge. If the new generation is better they will reduce the above to just say 50% level. All this takes time.

Those who complain will always complain, for example Egypt is similar level as Pakistan, i visited many times, unbelievable infrastructure is built, new cities, roads, motorway, tourist destinations, cheap gas and oil but people are still not happy with the rulers, they tried a revolution aswell but now it is strictly ruled under military led government. So if just say 32 SEZ zones are managed by strict central government/military rule then change can happen. This is what the current hybrid regime is trying to do already.
The problem is also alienating those, particularly the high skilled (with well enough means) that would be willing to endure the decades it would take to participate and serve.

Without trust, many now consider it even more foolish to put their family’s future on a system that doesn’t seem to have any tangible sense of rule of law, contract law, investment protections, meritocracy.

Even if they bring back someone the highly skilled trust, it may take a decade of a solid track record to win back talent and investment.

As for regular people complaining, they want their standard of living to improve. Doing that in Egypt is harder, but Pakistan where most of the population lives in rural areas, investment into agricultural yields (and labor intensive, minimal pesticide and nutrient usage, high end crops for the GCC market) can create higher substance tax nets and better fund human development; healthcare, schools, more affordable access to food.

With a decent government that completes a rail link to Central Asia, and gets Pakistan integrated into the transit trade, the city sweepers can benefit from cheaper inputs into industrial processes, and make their cities more competitive for FDI to utilize their labor and raise their wages. SEZ work best if they are along a trade route the world or at least major players in it NEED to use. Russia want to come to Arabian Sea ports, Saudis want to industrialize and can use Central Asia raw materials, and China and Iran want a secure land route, possibly through a pariah state such as Afghanistan (which can take the blame for being a laundering state; the Switzerland of Asia).

With rural and urban residents both growing more stable/prosperous, it will make life safer for the middle class and well to do. Able to spend their wealth locally and have less to fear of others eyeing their wealthy; through somewhat narrowing of wealth inequality. (It is similar to the trend I witnessed in NYC, of wave lifting all boats, over the past 40 years).

This is where IK comes in. A single 5 year IK presidency and a reset of relations with Afghanistan to secure that rail route and secure that border can open up opportunities, now more than ever. Reset trade relations, reset domestic politics, build up the economy not on remittance but fundamentals, and build up global leverage. Secure the GLOCs and the SLOCs, become the Asian pivot state.

A domestic political reset will do wonders for winning back the right kind of talent in the long run. Domestic stable growth will win back the money from the “wrong kind” talent that goes abroad. It’s the pattern of the newer East Asian tiger economies.
 
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The fact that both Afghanistan and India claims huge chunk of Pakistan's territory and if Army has lost all wars then we wont have intact borders by now.
Stalemate in wars/skirmishes is not equivalent to victory. Pakistan as a country has lost territory (overall) since 14th August 1947. Some gains in Kashmir and India's Gujrat but East Pakistan, Siachen and many other places Pakistan (and by extension Pakistan Army) had to give up.

Those are the facts and they are undisputable...
 
Stalemate in wars/skirmishes is not equivalent to victory. Pakistan as a country has lost territory (overall) since 14th August 1947. Some gains in Kashmir and India's Gujrat but East Pakistan, Siachen and many other places Pakistan (and by extension Pakistan Army) had to give up.

Those are the facts and they are undisputable...

In 1948, pakistan used unconventional method to gain territories in Kashmir where as India primarily deployed conventional military forces, utilizing an airlift of regular infantry and mounting mechanized operations. The fact that India could not complete its objective of occupying entire Kashmir region is a defeat for India despite only facing irregular military. The master mind behind Pakistan operation was Major Gen Akhbar Khan.
My point is, if Pakistan military was as weak as portrayed by India then they had 78 years to annex disputed kashmir territories by now. A weak useless guard will abandon his post not defend it for decades.

1965, pakistan tried to replicate 1948 which did not succeed mainly due to local tribes in IOK not achieving their objectives. India retaliated by launching military campaigns across International borders which were thwarted by Pakistan military. A weak loser Army will not be successful at defending its major cities situated at the border.

1971 would not have been such a debacle for Pakistan had East Pakistan been a separate nation from the beginning simply due to its geographical location. Heck, India p1sses its pants at mere thoughts that China may take advantage of its chicken neck (Siliguri Corridor) which is not even fully detached from its mainland.
Below is declassified CIA report on 1971 casualties and considering most of Pakistan’s casualties were from the east, the west did not do so bad.
But Indians like to portray this victory as if they detached a piece of land from Pakistan and physically relocated it 100s of miles away.
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Siachen and Kargil does not even hold any strategic importance for India. Its just mountain and a glacier. The fact that Pakistan is causing India to waste millions of dollars on a glacier is an achievement on its own. In case of full scale war, those indian military sites on the open are just going to be a target for air strikes, drones, and newly accquired long range artilleries and rockets.

2019, India failed its objectives. No sites were hit and ended up losing its fighter jet and the humiliation afterwards.

2025, India started this war and did not achieve any of its objectives. What India likes to call "anti india militants" leaderahips are still roaming around in Pakistan. If India had any ambitions to annihilate Pakistan was this time when its military popularity was in decline among its people and engaged with militancy and did jacksh1t.
The same failed loser Army leadership is making defense pacts, is playing a role of peacemaker, while India is busy making bollywood masala news and movies.

Btw, India is the only nuclear power nation who has lost the most territory to another nation. China still occupies territories it gained from India in 1962 and 2020.

This is going off topic now... back to PTI.
 
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btw, what a stupid serviceman. Who does that while wearing a uniform? He will lose his job and pension, perhaps.
 
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btw, what a stupid serviceman. Who does that while wearing a uniform? He will lose his job and pension, perhaps.
If your wife is surrounded by uncouth and rowdy crowd of young people in Pakistan who have tendencies to lynch people, you would do the same.

Btw he was stupid to go there in uniform but i guess he acted on impulse cause of his wife under threat.
 
If PTI come to power again (this is pakistan, anything can happen. Those who have been exiled twice, become PM again after that). And if IK tried to be the better and bigger man and forgive them all. I will be pissed. Pissed to a level that I will hate him for it and never support him again.
History shows he will have to sit and work with the PPP and Pmln. Military, PPP and Pmln also had major fights but now rule together. PTI will also have to eventually work with all powers and try to make Pakistan a strong state. The same way JUI Fazlur Rehman was accused for a decade of being corrupt and sell out but now he is an ally, he was the president of PDM which toppled Imran Khan. Mahmood Khan Achakza was labelled as a traitor but now he is major ally.

When Imran Khan was toppled and PTI faced state brutality, I mentioned PTI and IK are being pushed against the wall and they will choose Pashtun ethnic nationalism to survive, and PTI has done just that, made amends with Fazlur Rehman and Mahmood Khan Achakzai, also TTP and Afghanistan issue, Pakistan rulers want PTI to attack TTP and Taliban so then PTI will be targeted and cornered in KPK.
 
rest assured, given Pakistan and the history of its leaders.. I can assure you that you will never be pissed. you and many others will never ever be pissed because Politics in Pakistan is a very personal thing and we take things personal very seriously.
Fazlur Rehman and Mahmoon Khan Achakzai were labelled as corrupt and traitors but now they are biggest ally so yes your correct. As long as own party benefits then its okay, be it from the military, opposition or world powers but when no support is given then they are labelled as traitors and corrupt.
 
This is where IK comes in. A single 5 year IK presidency and a reset of relations with Afghanistan to secure that rail route and secure that border can open up opportunities, now more than ever. Reset trade relations, reset domestic politics, build up the economy not on remittance but fundamentals, and build up global leverage. Secure the GLOCs and the SLOCs, become the Asian pivot state.

A domestic political reset will do wonders for winning back the right kind of talent in the long run. Domestic stable growth will win back the money from the “wrong kind” talent that goes abroad. It’s the pattern of the newer East Asian tiger economies.
How will Imran Khan coming in to power will reset relations with the Taliban/TTP. The TTP want autonomous Tribal areas, they want army out of FATA pre 2001 level? Will Imran Khan withraw armed forces from the tribal areas, also ignore Taliban and TTP relations in order to bring peace.
 

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