PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

[flyingorca]

It's still under British control View attachment 212758

The queen is long dead and her picture is there as symbolic.
Do you know who is under controll? Imrand Dajjal is under zio Goldsmith control. The same Goldsmith who had ties with Epstein, Maxwell and Natanyahu.

 

[SaadH]

Imran Khan and PTI recieved army and agencies help all until his removal from power. His mistake was to work with his handlers to fast track to PM chair, but once he had the chair he wanted to do his marzi. This led to all relations breaking down and when he took anti establishment root all bridges were burnt. This is why he was praising army, agencies and Bajwa up until he was removed, the same way Nawaz Sharif went anti Bajwa when the supreme court gave decision against him which led to his resignation/removal. He also alleged General Bajwa was behind this.

No, IK struggled for 20 years and when the population was sick and tired of the duopoly of one looter family of Bhutto's/Zardaris and Sharifs after another with no visible improvement in their lives and ever sinking living standards throughout 90's and 00's and 10's, the military couldn't stop IK"s rise and co-opted his firstly duly earned gov't by stealing 15 odd seats from him and handing them to their A team noonie toons, Khawja Asif, Ahsan Iqbal seat's were clearly stolen by GHQ jamedars.

 

[Cipher212]

Imran Khan and PTI recieved army and agencies help all until his removal from power. His mistake was to work with his handlers to fast track to PM chair, but once he had the chair he wanted to do his marzi. This led to all relations breaking down and when he took anti establishment root all bridges were burnt. This is why he was praising army, agencies and Bajwa up until he was removed, the same way Nawaz Sharif went anti Bajwa when the supreme court gave decision against him which led to his resignation/removal. He also alleged General Bajwa was behind this.

The only reason I hold him in a separate bracket from Sharifs and Bhuttos right now is because it was his first turn.

Which means he took army hand in 2010s, got rewarded in 2018 then started losing it by 2020.

If he is truly anti establishment now and never intends to go back, still there is some reason to support.

However, if he now signs another deal to be forgiven and brought back into fold of politics then he is no different from Nawaz, Zardari, Fazlur etc.

 

[Watandar]

The only reason I hold him in a separate bracket from Sharifs and Bhuttos right now is because it was his first turn.

Which means he took army hand in 2010s, got rewarded in 2018 then started losing it by 2020.

If he is truly anti establishment now and never intends to go back, still there is some reason to support.

However, if he now signs another deal to be forgiven and brought back into fold of politics then he is no different from Nawaz, Zardari, Fazlur etc.

I don't think that's entirely fair. It depends on what the deal is and whether he keeps a distance from the army or embraces it again. If he embraces the army again then I would agree with you.

 

[PakAl]

The only reason I hold him in a separate bracket from Sharifs and Bhuttos right now is because it was his first turn.

Which means he took army hand in 2010s, got rewarded in 2018 then started losing it by 2020.

If he is truly anti establishment now and never intends to go back, still there is some reason to support.

However, if he now signs another deal to be forgiven and brought back into fold of politics then he is no different from Nawaz, Zardari, Fazlur etc.

I think soon Imran Khan will work out his differences with the military or PTI leadership will do it, they realised their mistake at under estimating them. Nawaz Sharif didnt learn from his mistakes though, everytime he came to power he had kickoff, even during his 2013 term, he had kickoff with General Raheel Sharif, Dawn Leaks, Geo attacks if you remember, he even went after General Mushraff. To be fair with PTI and Imran Khan, they claim they want reforms, help the people of Pakistan, development, education etc, how can they do this when fighting with the opposition and the military, its not sustainable. They need to understand on the international relations its a similar path, Pakistan cannot talk about development, trade, economy growth if we plan to fight the world, it will not work. They must reflect and learn, play good politics and win back power.

Dawn leaks - Wikipedia

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By the way Imran Khan and PTI were anti Fazlur Rehman and Mahmud Khan Achakzai, both were labelled with many different names, Fazlur Rehman was also President of PDM who toppled PTI government but today both are close allies so this shows even Imran Khan and PTI will change when benefits are given.

 

[Cipher212]

I think soon Imran Khan will work out his differences with the military or PTI leadership will do it, they realised their mistake at under estimating them. Nawaz Sharif didnt learn from his mistakes though, everytime he came to power he had kickoff, even during his 2013 term, he had kickoff with General Raheel Sharif, Dawn Leaks, Geo attacks if you remember, he even went after General Mushraff. To be fair with PTI and Imran Khan, they claim they want reforms, help the people of Pakistan, development, education etc, how can they do this when fighting with the opposition and the military, its not sustainable. They need to understand on the international relations its a similar path, Pakistan cannot talk about development, trade, economy growth if we plan to fight the world, it will not work. They must reflect and learn, play good politics and win back power.

Dawn leaks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

By the way Imran Khan and PTI were anti Fazlur Rehman and Mahmud Khan Achakzai, both were labelled with many different names, Fazlur Rehman was also President of PDM who toppled PTI government but today both are close allies so this shows even Imran Khan and PTI will change when benefits are given.

A realistic approach probably and yes the alternative is not sustainable but it's exactly what I cannot support anymore.

Next most likely candidate for hybrid regime is either Bilawal or Maryam. There is no one else who has both the experience yet is willing to serve under a general.

And yes, PTI was at odds with Fazlur and Achakzai both but allying with other political parties is one thing. Making deals again and again is not going to do Pakistan any favours in the long term.

 

[flyingorca]

Serious question for ZioImranists. Why is that every time IRGC leadership thanks Pakistani leadership these Zioimranists flood comment section with same rants like saaar Asim Munir is CIA agent Saar dont trust Asim Munir saar Pakistani government baad saar?
Do yall think those IRGC leadership are dumb that if Pak leadership was indeed what ZioImranist claim then they wouldn't know? Like seriously, do Zioimranists think they are smarter?

 

[GatlingGunZ]

Serious question for ZioImranists. Why is that every time IRGC leadership thanks Pakistani leadership these Zioimranists flood comment section with same rants like saaar Asim Munir is CIA agent Saar dont trust Asim Munir saar Pakistani government baad saar?
Do yall think those IRGC leadership are dumb that if Pak leadership was indeed what ZioImranist claim then they wouldn't know? Like seriously, do Zioimranists think they are smarter?

IMO,

Munir is US prez's favourite field Marshal,
Another Donald from US got Imran govt overthrown using military establishment, and Munir succeeded Bajwa 6 months after regime change. Now, should Iranian regime be not warned about such Field Marshal.

 

[Goenitz]

14 May was the deadline for 90 days election limit
09 May was therefore orchestrated to curb dissent within the army and the public. IK had already announced 5 jalsas before that in big cities. Rangers and IHC helped in this false flag

 

[Goenitz]

 

[flyingorca]

IMO,

Munir is US prez's favourite field Marshal,
Another Donald from US got Imran govt overthrown using military establishment, and Munir succeeded Bajwa 6 months after regime change. Now, should Iranian regime be not warned about such Field Marshal.

Wasnt Donald Trump Imrand's favorite American President until Trump ditched him for good? Didnt PTI US wing advocate for Trump in 2024 election?
Asim Munir seems to be not just America's but also China, Russia Iran Turkey Bangladesh Azerbaijan KSA favorite Pakistani leader.

But my question was, is Iranian intel so bad that ZioImranist have to beg them on social media to not trust Pakistani leadership? You think IRGC has not come across PTI anti Munir campaign and yet they still chose to trust Asim Munir?

 

[flyingorca]

 

[Cipher212]

Touching to see Sky sports giving Immy some spotlight but at the same time, I don't think these kitty party statements have any effect on a field marshal.

It's still under British control View attachment 212758

I think it's all about the nuance. If this particular room is purposefully preserved for historical reasons then it's fine.