Racist attacks leave New Zealand's Indian community feeling 'hounded'

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I*R*A said:
They fight each other in very weird way, they will wait for the night dark and then go pee on their opponent, that is how they fight
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Lollllll

I can believe this is true but almost don't want to.


The hard working slogan is a complete myth.

Otherwise it would be true in India.

Just because some database guy works the odd weekend and has long-ish office hours potentially, suddenly that's an extraordinary contribution 😂
 
r3alist said:
Lollllll

I can believe this is true but almost don't want to.


The hard working slogan is a complete myth.

Otherwise it would be true in India.

Just because some database guy works the odd weekend and has long-ish office hours potentially, suddenly that's an extraordinary contribution 😂
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What I can tell you is Pakistani laborers have attitude problems but with proper supervision they achieve the most challenging targets well before time, indian laborers present you with totally different issues, submissive, weasel kind. While talking to a Pakistani labor you do not need anyone else in the room, with indians you need to have a witness present. Both pools have some exceptions but in general Pakistani laborer is more loyal and easy to motivate than an indian one.
 
I*R*A said:
What I can tell you is Pakistani laborers have attitude problems but with proper supervision they achieve the most challenging targets well before time, indian laborers present you with totally different issues, submissive, weasel kind. While talking to a Pakistani labor you do not need anyone else in the room, with indians you need to have a witness present. Both pools have some exceptions but in general Pakistani laborer is more loyal and easy to motivate than an indian one.
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It's just very bizarre that people who are coming from the third world, which there is no shame in, then insist and proclaim that they are the very best workers, and the lack of awareness in saying such things


With the economic data the reality is that due to cultural and family cooperation more wealth is kept in families and through ethnic groups as well, and in south Asian culture if you can buy property you can, and then with the American visas system you often had spouses who also benefited from similar visas and therefore the average household income looks very high.

This is opportunistic and cunning enough, but it does not actually impress the people in the host nation because they know the people individually, most are around average or a bit better or a bit less
 
r3alist said:
It's just very bizarre that people who are coming from the third world, which there is no shame in, then insist and proclaim that they are the very best workers, and the lack of awareness in saying such things


With the economic data the reality is that due to cultural and family cooperation more wealth is kept in families and through ethnic groups as well, and in south Asian culture if you can buy property you can, and then with the American visas system you often had spouses who also benefited from similar visas and therefore the average household income looks very high.

This is opportunistic and cunning enough, but it does not actually impress the people in the host nation because they know the people individually, most are around average or a bit better or a bit less
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The habit of majority to scam prevails, lack of empathy, intolerance and considering lakshmi as goddess often makes it comfortable to tell lies.

There will be huge difference between Pakistan's and india's next generation, that was born, is being raised and educated in both countries. The cultural similarities we carried will just totally vanish or will be very invisible. The generation being raised in Pakistan right now is witnessing hardship, corruption, injustice, elite capture and is becoming more and more aware about their own issues and neighboring countries. In parallel, the generation in india is being raised under the guise that they are Vishwagur, an economic power, superior, they are being taught to be intolerant and are shown that it is okay to hate others, they are being fed media propaganda at a scale that they hardly understand their own enemy, Pakistan.
 
r3alist said:
The hard working slogan is a complete myth.
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A complete myth. In my experience interacting with Indians abroad, most of them have a far better work life balance than their Indian counterparts, who have to also contend with terrible commutes and poorer work culture back home.

What is probably true is that Indians are willing to put in extra hours at work, or utilize their free time in learning something new rather than hitting the gym or socializing, as compared to their white counterparts. They are also more eager to climb the ladder.

On another note, Indians in India, especially blue collar workers are pretty hard working, but that kind of work does not pay well most of the time. But if you have good enough skills and some enterprising spirit, as a carpenter, plumber, foreman, electrician you can make more money than bottom of the rung 'software engineers' who are also working at minimum wages. Maybe it will take a decade or more for Indians to get a collective boot on their backside and realise that there are better off training themselves in vocational skills rather than rely on 'IT' jobs
 
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Paitoo said:
What is probably true is that Indians are willing to put in extra hours at work
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Putting in extra hours after work hours on regular basis, is not always indicative of hard work but most of the time, it is inefficient work processes and bad work ethics. Underlying motivation to earn overtime.
 
I*R*A said:
Putting in extra hours after work hours on regular basis, is not always indicative of hard work but most of the time, it is inefficient work processes and bad work ethics. Underlying motivation to earn overtime.
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No not always. Sometimes it's not inefficiency either. I know many people even in India who stay in office longer coz they have gym, movies, free food and clean air conditioned environment. For guys who are not very social, office is practically their entire life
 
Paitoo said:
No not always. Sometimes it's not inefficiency either. I know many people even in India who stay in office longer coz they have gym, movies, free food and clean air conditioned environment. For guys who are not very social, office is practically their entire life
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Bad work ethics. No balance in work life and personal life. Again in this case the underlying motivation is not to perform and increase productivity but to enjoy free amenities.
 
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