Raza Dar Rape case: Faisal Vawda demands Ishaq Dar's resignation

I know what you stated. I am pro-military too, but not a cult follower anymore, like in the past. Technically, I was/am pro-Pakistan and thought Army=Pakistan.

I like IK, but not more than a political leader.

Besides that physical assault on those unfortunate women (even if there is a crypto issue), I quoted you: Ishaq Dar has essentially r@aped our motherland (Pakistan) with his fiscal policies. See our GDP growth, but we don't bother about it as it was a selection of the King.
fabricated economic growth reports submit to get IMF loan, in return IMF penalized Pakistan millions of dollar for submitting fake reports.
 
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So much for "Pakistan is the best place videos" by gora tourists

we all know they just come for the free street foods and the insane (unnecessary) protocol given by the locals.....they've run out of places to go, their money gets them more in Pakistan than in Europe or other places....

unke apne mulk mei unko koi mun nahi lagata........free food aur protocol to duur ki baat hai......
 
The fact is that these 2 girls aren't Saints either.

They were clearly running a scam.

They first baited this Junior Dar.

When he realized that he was being had - he lured them to Pakistan.

What he did to them (including the Rape of one of them), does not justify what they went through.

Imagine..., Ishaq Dar is the Foreign Minister. His Office has to deal with all 3 Foreign Governments.

The man needs to be sacked as Foreign Minister (asap) - and NO he should not get that other Ministery he's been dreaming about.
 
we all know they just come for the free street foods and the insane (unnecessary) protocol given by the locals.....they've run out of places to go, their money gets them more in Pakistan than in Europe or other places....

unke apne mulk mei unko koi mun nahi lagata........free food aur protocol to duur ki baat hai......
Both victim first been treated as Punjab govt guest , later ....lol....
 
Both victim first been treated as Punjab govt guest , later ....lol....

how can those fucking noonies, and that Ishaq Dar can still walk around is beyond me......shame on the estb for protecting these mofo bastards

koi ghairatmand hota to doob ke marr gya hota sharam se.....
 
The fact is that these 2 girls aren't Saints either.

They were clearly running a scam.

They first baited this Junior Dar.

When he realized that he was being had - he lured them to Pakistan.

What he did to them (including the Rape of one of them), does not justify what they went through.

Imagine..., Ishaq Dar is the Foreign Minister. His Office has to deal with all 3 Foreign Governments.

The man needs to be sacked as Foreign Minister (asap) - and NO he should not get that other Ministery he's been dreaming about.
How do you know they were running a scam ? Crypto investments even in established cryptocurrencies like BTC and Ethereum are inherently very risky. Those in newer coins are outright speculative. Just because this idiot didnt understand the risk of the investment he made and lost money doesn't necessarily mean he was scammed.

And yes, Dar is completely compromised and his position is completely untenable, especially since one of the victims is a EU citizen. Pakistan's EU GSP is contingent on the implementation of treaties on human rights, women's rights, etc and if the Dutch government rakes this up, it could jeopardise Pakistan's GSP status.
 
How do you know they were running a scam ? Crypto investments even in established cryptocurrencies like BTC and Ethereum are inherently very risky. Those in newer coins are outright speculative. Just because this idiot didnt understand the risk of the investment he made and lost money doesn't necessarily mean he was scammed.

And yes, Dar is completely compromised and his position is completely untenable, especially since one of the victims is a EU citizen. Pakistan's EU GSP is contingent on the implementation of treaties on human rights, women's rights, etc and if the Dutch government rakes this up, it could jeopardise Pakistan's GSP status.
govt of Pak made this legit .

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we all know they just come for the free street foods and the insane (unnecessary) protocol given by the locals.....they've run out of places to go, their money gets them more in Pakistan than in Europe or other places....

unke apne mulk mei unko koi mun nahi lagata........free food aur protocol to duur ki baat hai......
That over niceness is a drop in the ocean but is fine from going a long way.

That isnt the problem - the problem is that Pakistani men like weaponing rape because to them it affirms their own insecurities.
Lets say these women came in here and basically he at best threatened them or left them stranded.

You remove a typical stigma surrounded with people of this region.
But no, forget foreign women - the most immediate instinct of the wrong man in Pakistan is either rape or throw acid.

The case itself reeks of much more than two foreign women and has to do with probably how the relationship in crypto is always iffy and more so how its really scammers trying to scam each other most of the time.
 
How do you know they were running a scam ?
...just like you can't be certain if it were legit.

However, its like the Pyramid scheme that came before Crypto & Bitcoin over a decade back.

Here, in the UAE there were some companies that were running such schemes & were listed in Netheralnds.

Look..., no one on this Forum will ever get the full details other than what we are being fed my Police/Govt. or some Journalists.

Its basically a game of whom you really wanna believe.

This Dar fellow got frustrated when his calls weren't being recieved by these 2, which would indicate that they were taking him for a ride (at the time). Obviously the tables turned when he eventually took them for a ride to Lahore.

I think the bigger question is where did this little sh!t get that kind of money to invest in the first place. He's what...22...23?

Yahan b.c. adi zindagi guzar gaee hai aur 2 paisay nahe jour' sakay aaj-kal ke mehangai may.
 
Just a Q. If these women were scammers and had already milked some money, how dumb were they to come into a snake's den?
or they were not scammers!
I think that Dar lost some risky money and blamed these girls. Then he fishbaited them for more investment and tried to extort the lost investment, as they do normally (that Rajab Butt case)
 
Just watch this and tell me is there any morality left in PMLN ?

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yeah.. Dar is the epitome of manners and etiquette. Those 20+ years old kids killed by CCD were khawarij straight from hell.
 
...just like you can't be certain if it were legit.

However, its like the Pyramid scheme that came before Crypto & Bitcoin over a decade back.

Here, in the UAE there were some companies that were running such schemes & were listed in Netheralnds.

Look..., no one on this Forum will ever get the full details other than what we are being fed my Police/Govt. or some Journalists.

Its basically a game of whom you really wanna believe.

This Dar fellow got frustrated when his calls weren't being recieved by these 2, which would indicate that they were taking him for a ride (at the time). Obviously the tables turned when he eventually took them for a ride to Lahore.

I think the bigger question is where did this little sh!t get that kind of money to invest in the first place. He's what...22...23?

Yahan b.c. adi zindagi guzar gaee hai aur 2 paisay nahe jour' sakay aaj-kal ke mehangai may.
Come on man, no need for misogynistic victim blaming.

This guy is not some clueless elderly grandmother who got scam calls from some imposters. His family is the munim of Sharif khandaan and understand these scams better than almost anyone in the world.

And if those women had really scammed him, do you think they were so stupid that they would have come to Pakistan after knowing what kind of power he weilded here. Even if one hypothetically believes that, you have to remember that this family has the entire resources of the state at its disposal. They could easily have taken official/ semi official recourse instead of involving henchmen. I agree that we cannot be certain about what actually happened, but the circumstantial evidence strongly suggests that any loss suffered by Dars was due to an investment going bad rather than outright fraud by the victims.
 
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Come on man, no need for misogynistic victim blaming.

This guy is not some clueless elderly grandmother who got scam calls from some imposters. His family is the munim of Sharif khandaan and understand these scams better than almost anyone in the world.

And if those women had really scammed him, do you think they were so stupid that they were so stupid that they would have come to Pakistan after knowing what kind of power he weilded here. Even if one hypothetically believes that, you have to remember that this family has the entire resources of the state at its disposal. They could easily have taken official/ semi official recourse instead of involving henchmen. I agree that we cannot be certain about what actually happened, but the circumstantial evidence strongly suggests that any loss suffered by Dars was due to an investment going bad rather than outright fraud by the victims.
Both parties are thieves and there's no honour among them.
 

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