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Where is our resident hard core zionist raptor?
The guy always hide for few days whenever situation gets like this.... and then comes back with new propaganda tally of metal losses and human casualties with strategic defeat and strategic victory.
The guy has zero sympathy with Ukrainians. He is just interested in how many more men will die and how many pieces of Armour were destroyed by American weapons.
I am waiting what he brings forward now. 😁

@F-22Raptor will only appear at a more opportune time. He always does this when the chips are down.
 
Conservative commentator Richard Hanania lays out what happened this afternoon (emphasis ours):

I watched the entire press conference with Zelensky. There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. The whole video gives the proper context.

When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was possible that Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky or were even trying to humiliate him. That's not what happened.

You had 40 minutes of calm conversation. Vance made a point that didn't attack Zelensky and wasn't even addressed to him, and Zelensky clearly started the argument.

In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we'll see." Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders.

For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would've signed a deal.

The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does
. Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn't get us anywhere.

The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions. He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. Why on earth would you do this? Then came the fight we all saw.

Zelensky was minutes away from being home free
, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump administration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic terms. This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument.

I've been a fan of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don't see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the administration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.
 
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Conservative commentator Richard Hanania lays out what happened this afternoon (emphasis ours):


As the history suggests, there will be sudden revolt in Ukraine against Zelensky despite being very popular, he may be killed in an accident or by the mob or otherwise forcefully resigned in the coming months.

Americans are best in activating propaganda machinery and changing the world leaders if they have the balls to question right or wrong
 
As the history suggests, there will be sudden revolt in Ukraine against Zelensky despite being very popular, he may be killed in an accident or by the mob or otherwise forcefully resigned in the coming months.

Americans are best in activating propaganda machinery and changing the world leaders if they have the balls to question right or wrong

Zelensky imposed martial law. Anyone who don't fall in line is immediately arrested, imprisoned, shot. Zelensky is the first open dictator of Europe. Zelensky is president for life.
 
Ouch ! that was hard to watch. Zelensky got ganged up and torn apart. Never seen something quite like it on this level.
This is 10mins long.

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Some more captured stuffs.

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I remember when the Maidan happened, I immediately recognised it as a fraud. When Russia invaded, I supported them from day 1 whilst being beat down on the old forum. I called this Zionist Clown of Kiev a fraud from day 1. I was correct.
This comedian clown has along with his zio-backers singlehandedly destroyed Ukraine. He deserves an automatic death penalty for bringing death and destruction to Ukraine. He continues to cause misery for the Ukrainians. The sooner he goes, the better for the world as it would mean that the chances of WW3 subside for the meantime.

Shout out to the members who supported the Pro-Ukrainian position from day 1. You know who you are :)
After 2014 coup, Ukraine should have sat with Russia and reassured them they posed no threat, when Zelensky came to power he made threats of joining Nato, which means being anti Russia and allowing nukes in Ukraine. This with fighting in Donbass led to Russian invasion. Overall this war could have easily been avoided. The amount of people killed is unforgivable.
 
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Totally agreed. Trump is going to throw Ukraine to the lions (Russians) while taking all their resources. Zelensky should not sign the agreement, rather work with the Europeans to get funding for the war for the next 4 years.
Zelensky can also offer Putin truce terms, stop the war, declare Ukraine neutrality, announce to not join nato, keep Donbass as a free movement region between Russia and Ukraine, resign from office, call fresh elections. Putin may accept alot of the terms and sign a deal.
 
According to Jacobs, Trump is "unwilling to talk to Zelenskyy further today."

Shortly before Zelenskyy appeared on Fox, Trump told the press that Zelenskyy "overplayed his hand."
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Later, Zelenskyy went on Fox News, where he acknowledged that he 'regretted' what went down - but said he doesn't think he did anything wrong.

"I am not sure we did something bad," he told Baier, adding "I respect president Trump and the American people, but we have to be very honest and direct to understand each other."

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