Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates

[AZ_HighCountry]

Started because stupidity of zeleshky, who trusted too much blindly on the west

Started, because Putin, who saw weakness in Biden after his disastrous handling of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, seized the opportunity to continue with his "annexation" of Ukrainian territory that started under the Obama administration. Ukraine also had a Russian puppet as president at the time.

 

[gambit]

I hold Zelensky fully responsible for the war and its consequences.

Ukraine lacked the military strength or even a basic deterrent against Russia. Yet, Zelensky placed blind trust in the West and ignored multiple warnings, pushing the country into a conflict it wasn’t prepared for.

A more strategic leader might have taken a longer-term approach—building up Ukraine’s defenses over time, strengthening the military, and engaging in serious negotiations with Russia. Instead, Zelensky chose a reckless path.

Recently, He seemed to celebrate strikes on Russian targets, forgetting that ordinary Ukrainians would bear the brunt of the retaliation.

His leadership has been disastrously naive and short-sighted.

So if Luxembourg is invaded, it is their fault because they were weak to start?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

So if Luxembourg is invaded, it is their fault because they were weak to start?

Zelensky shouldn't have placed blind faith in the West. Ukraine didn’t have the military strength to stand up to Russia, yet he pushed the country into a direct confrontation.

Instead of recognizing Ukraine’s limitations and seeking a diplomatic solution, he gambled everything on Western promises—promises that ultimately failed to stop the destruction.

A more pragmatic leader might have acknowledged the imbalance of power and taken a more cautious, strategic path. But Zelensky ignored the risks, and now Ukraine is paying the price.

It's a win win situation for the west now, they wanted to drag russia in unwanted war, they achieved it by sacrificing Ukraine... Now mainly can focus on china

 

[gambit]

Both are unrelated.

What I said, zeleshky should have not trusted blindly on west and saitama have prevail him by going so far.

Since Ukraine had not capability to hold russian, might had find diplomatic way but he choosen not so

So you are saying that a sovereign country can be preyed upon and should just suffer the consequences because of being weak.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

So you are saying that a sovereign country can be preyed upon and should just suffer the consequences because of being weak.

Or agree to the conditions that were being imposed upon them at the time?

Then again, those would be the "consequences" you are referring to.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

So you are saying that a sovereign country can be preyed upon and should just suffer the consequences because of being weak.

Isn't canada compromised their sovereign identity?

Will allow ever by USA that canada have independent own policy and military?

Just asking because I heard such quote - sovereign!!!

I can give another examples venezuela, when USA control everything - no one talks about sovereign

 

[gambit]

Isn't canada compromised their sovereign identity?

Will allow ever by USA that canada have independent own policy and military?

Just asking because I heard such quote - sovereign!!!

How is Canada NOT sovereign? Looks like you are getting desperate, buddy.

Looky here, for whatever reason(s) you do not like Ukraine, have the balls to say so. I do not like Russia. See how easy that is?

But if you believe Ukraine should be under Russian rule, have the courage to say so.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Isn't canada compromised their sovereign identity?

Will allow ever by USA that canada have independent own policy and military?

Just asking because I heard such quote - sovereign!!!

None of that makes any sense whatsoever.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

How is Canada NOT sovereign? Looks like you are getting desperate, buddy.

Looky here, for whatever reason(s) you do not like Ukraine, have the balls to say so. I do not like Russia. See how easy that is?

But if you believe Ukraine should be under Russian rule, have the courage to say so.

I think he's still stinging from the beat down they took from a smaller country a month ago.

 

[gambit]

I think he's still stinging from the beat down they took from a smaller country a month ago.

I have some Indian from my mother's side, and I still do not get Indians.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

How is Canada NOT sovereign? Looks like you are getting desperate, buddy.

Looky here, for whatever reason(s) you do not like Ukraine, have the balls to say so. I do not like Russia. See how easy that is?

But if you believe Ukraine should be under Russian rule, have the courage to say so.

The definition of "sovereignty" seems to shift depending on who’s involved—Venezuela, Canada, Ukraine, Iraq, afghanistan etc—each treated differently based on Western interests.

The real issue with the West, especially the U.S., is the need to control. If a country doesn't align with their agenda or slips out of their influence, they don't tolerate it—they move toward destabilization or destruction.

And then, after the damage is done, they start lecturing the world about sovereignty, democracy, and human rights.

 

[gambit]

The definition of "sovereignty" seems to shift depending on who’s involved—Venezuela, Canada, Ukraine—each treated differently based on Western interests.

The real issue with the West, especially the U.S., is the need to control. If a country doesn't align with their agenda or slips out of their influence, they don't tolerate it—they move toward destabilization or destruction.

And then, after the damage is done, they start lecturing the world about sovereignty, democracy, and human rights.

Canada is still quite sovereign and enough that King Charles said so.

Venezuela got screwed by its own leadership.

Ukraine was rejected by NATO because of high corruption.

So...???

 

[Mobius]

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[muhammed45]

You seem to forget who started this.

Yes, USA started it.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Canada is still quite sovereign and enough that King Charles said so.

Venezuela got screwed by its own leadership.

Ukraine was rejected by NATO because of high corruption.

So...???

Just imagine if Canada simply stated it wanted a good relationship with Russia and proposed military cooperation. Would the U.S. ever allow that?

Of course not. The reaction would be immediate—pressure, interference, maybe even threats. So much for sovereignty when it challenges U.S. interests.

We all remember what happened during the Cold War—the Cuban Missile Crisis. Cuba was a sovereign nation, yet when it aligned militarily with the Soviet Union, the U.S. treated it as an existential threat and brought the world to the edge of nuclear war.

So was Cuba not sovereign when the U.S. forced its hand?

This shows the double standard clearly: sovereignty is respected only when it doesn’t challenge American dominance.