Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates

[ahmadbhutta]

Again, I don't understand what's with all the manpower talk.

It's not like Ukraine have a population of Sweden (9 mil) or Estonia (7 mil) they have a population of 45 mil. And they still only have draft, not mobilisation yet, unlike the Russian.

Even if we are talking about 1 to 10 mobilisation rates (which is very low, as it usually between 1 : 7 (US mobilisation during WW2) to 1 : 3 (IDF mobilisation during Yom Kippur) You are talking about 4 to 5 million strong forces there. This is going to take Russia some time to go over them, I mean right now as we speak Ukraine have a 1 mil strong military out of 45 mil population and Russia gain is what? 300sq kilometer a year? At this rate, even without the mobilisation, it will take Russia 35 years to take the rest of Donbas (Which Ukraine still hold 40% of the 26,000 sqkm Donbas. ) Imagine Ukraine went into mobilisation and raise a 5 million strong army.......

I don't know if Russia would have sufficient gear to fight the west (Which have not even send most of their stuff over and still not any progress) again, I hope Russia is going to make something happen this summer and fall, otherwise they are looking at the back end in 25/26.

Out of 45 million 10 millions fled to Europe , and 5-6 millions are under Russian occupied lands so what is left now, do the math

 

[ahmadbhutta]

Again, I don't understand what's with all the manpower talk.

It's not like Ukraine have a population of Sweden (9 mil) or Estonia (7 mil) they have a population of 45 mil. And they still only have draft, not mobilisation yet, unlike the Russian.

Even if we are talking about 1 to 10 mobilisation rates (which is very low, as it usually between 1 : 7 (US mobilisation during WW2) to 1 : 3 (IDF mobilisation during Yom Kippur) You are talking about 4 to 5 million strong forces there. This is going to take Russia some time to go over them, I mean right now as we speak Ukraine have a 1 mil strong military out of 45 mil population and Russia gain is what? 300sq kilometer a year? At this rate, even without the mobilisation, it will take Russia 35 years to take the rest of Donbas (Which Ukraine still hold 40% of the 26,000 sqkm Donbas. ) Imagine Ukraine went into mobilisation and raise a 5 million strong army.......

I don't know if Russia would have sufficient gear to fight the west (Which have not even send most of their stuff over and still not any progress) again, I hope Russia is going to make something happen this summer and fall, otherwise they are looking at the back end in 25/26.

Out of 45 million 10 millions fled to Europe , and 5-6 millions are under Russian occupied lands so what is left now

Russia can’t make any operational or strategic breakthrough. They don’t have the capability and that should be clear to everyone by now.

This “Russia is moving forward” is complete horseshit. Russia is not going to win this war taking a few tree lines or villages every month. The sycophants cant seem to accept that.

Russia has strategically lost this war. Now we just wait and see how many casualties and equipment losses they take in the end.

Strategic breakthrough? Say that after the fall of chasiv Yar , vovchank and toretsk well then they won't be strategic anymore

 

[Hendarto]

Russia can’t make any operational or strategic breakthrough. They don’t have the capability and that should be clear to everyone by now.

This “Russia is moving forward” is complete horseshit. Russia is not going to win this war taking a few tree lines or villages every month. The sycophants cant seem to accept that.

Russia has strategically lost this war. Now we just wait and see how many casualties and equipment losses they take in the end.

If anything Ukraine war proves that the West is a paper tiger! All of their wonder weapon proved to be a dud. All the sanctions make Russia even stronger. Now they are in a state of panic and don't know what to do They can't escalate any further or risk Berlin, and Paris becoming glass monuments! Ukraine is destroyed, half of their young men are dead, and half of their population become refugees! It is only a matter of time before the fruit fall from the tree. Russia is not in a hurry. They can keep grinding the Uki and depleted Western treasury in a futile and foolish war that they initiated!

 

[j_hungary]

Out of 45 million 10 millions fled to Europe , and 5-6 millions are under Russian occupied lands so what is left now

lol there were no 10 million fled to Europe. and there are never any 5 to 6 million in Russian occupied land.

As for what is left now? The 2023 estimate by Ukrainian internal affair put the number to 37.9 million. So if we applies the same ratio, it would be 3.79 million force they can mobilise. Are you happy with that??

Ukraine Population (2026) - Worldometer

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[j_hungary]

You are always there for 2 months... In each and every conflict of Russia and Ukraine.
That's why nobody believes in you anymore.

First of all, I was not always there, unless you are saying once a year is "Always There", I was there at the beginning of 2022, and then mid-2023 and beginning of 2024.

Second of all, unlike you, I have a job, my trips are all work related.

And finally, I don't really care whether you or anyone believe that. My track record said I have at least 75% correct prediction in the previous forum, how many things that you predicted had come true??

 

[j_hungary]

Russia can’t make any operational or strategic breakthrough. They don’t have the capability and that should be clear to everyone by now.

This “Russia is moving forward” is complete horseshit. Russia is not going to win this war taking a few tree lines or villages every month. The sycophants cant seem to accept that.

Russia has strategically lost this war. Now we just wait and see how many casualties and equipment losses they take in the end.

Well, the Russian narrative these people are peddling would have you believe Russia is being stop by a bunch of 45p pensioner. I mean that's the natural logic in this, what is the Russian progress in this, and half a year almost gone, how much land did they took? Up til today? roughly 320 sq kilometers. And they are what? Facing a conscript army that one member here describes as old and unable. I mean this is what they are describing



As much as I want to comment on this issue, I am pretty sure if we keep the current momentum forward, I will probably be long dead before the Russian managed to take Donbas.

Russia probably has one more chance to launch something thru the rest of summer and early autumn, after that most analyst would side with the capability for Russia to make any operational event is close to 10%. The amount of gear they had loss during this spring and summer would need at least 18 months to recover. They can recover earlier if they decided to call off the rest of the year's operation.

What these people didn't know is Ukraine were probably at their direst situation between Jan to May this year, they literally have nothing to shoot at the Russian, I am not talking about shell rationing, but they literally have nothing because the US had starved them 7 months of supply by holding that bill, and that came from the back of a general assault. And yet the Russian progress is dismal at best, disastrous at worse. And we are seeing the Ukrainian now fortifiying their line, and most likely they will be doing that for the rest of the year.

 

[TopGun786]

Pro NATO sissys must be proud.....

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Now that's really like picking dead rats out of holes.
I feel pity for all these fine men.
They are not soldiers.
Many of them are just force conscripts, kidnapped, gave 2 to 4 weeks of training and sent to the front....just to die.
Yet many so called" intellectuals" here talk nonstop how good is Ukraine doing with the help of NATO.

 

[TopGun786]

Pure Facts. Zulensky is a fraud. A B@stard clown who deserves the death penalty for destroying Ukraine.....

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@Veit
If this can't fill your empty brain then nothing can.

 

[Viet]

Pure Facts. Zulensky is a fraud. A B@stard clown who deserves the death penalty for destroying Ukraine.....

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Jeffrey Sachs, Scott Ritter, McGregor, Mersheimer are paid trollers. They repeat same shit over and over again everyday.

Scott is a special case he makes many videos per day on Ukraine. he is close to madness. Since the US department forbids him of traveling to Russia he goes full crazy He as an US citizen himself dreams of nuking the US.

 

[ahmadbhutta]

lol there were no 10 million fled to Europe. and there are never any 5 to 6 million in Russian occupied land.

As for what is left now? The 2023 estimate by Ukrainian internal affair put the number to 37.9 million. So if we applies the same ratio, it would be 3.79 million force they can mobilise. Are you happy with that??

Ukraine Population (2026) - Worldometer

Population of Ukraine: current, historical, and projected population, growth rate, immigration, median age, total fertility rate (TFR), population density, urbanization, urban population, country's share of world population, and global rank. Data tables, maps, charts, and live population clock

www.worldometers.info

How many Ukrainian refugees are outside Ukraine?


6.5 million

In total, around six million Ukrainian refugees were registered across Europe and 6.5 million worldwide as of February 2024. Most of them fled the country by crossing the border with Poland.13-Mar-2024

https://www.statista.com › statistics

Ukrainian refugees by country 2024 | Statista
LOL , that's 6.5 million refugees by Feb 2024

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[TopGun786]

Jeffrey Sachs, Scott Ritter, McGregor, Mersheimer are paid trollers. They repeat same shit over and over again everyday.

Scott is a special case he makes many videos per day on Ukraine. he is close to madness. Since the US department forbids him of traveling to Russia he goes full crazy He as an US citizen himself dreams of nuking the US.

Yes piad trolls for speaking truth.
Just one question @Veit
Are telling lies?

 

[KingQamaR]

A big reminder, Ukraine doesn't have a demobilization law in place so once you are conscripted. You are forced to fight to the death or until you are crippled. No matter how lucky or skilled you are on the battlefield. The Ukrainian government will keep sending these young men out till they die.

 

[Viet]

If Ukraine keeps destroying oil depots, refineries the russians will soon have the choice:
either fuels for private cars or tanks for the 3 day war.
They can’t have both.

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[Mobius]

If Ukraine keeps destroying oil depots, refineries the russians will soon have the choice:
either fuels for private cars or tanks for the 3 day war.
They can’t have both.

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What fantasy world are you living in? Looks like you been sniffing the same high quality stuff the clown of Kiev is on.
Russia has absolutely colossal resources. There is no way such a scenario happens. Before it does, Russia will switch off all energy supplies still being circulated in Ukrainian Pipelines. Think before sh!tting out nonsense.

 

[Mobius]

Pure fact.....

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