Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates

[Yommie]

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[hussain0216]

The reality is this isn't about Ukraine

This is about the western order and it's hold over the world

If Russia wins, it's another nail in the coffin of the western order and another Indicator of the rise of the east


The west worst mistake is the Gaza conflict, the sheer hypocrisy and support for the Jews whilst trying to talk about human rights and Russian occupation is COMICAL

 

[Yommie]

@Viet

The Kiev rioters continue losing to the Allies in Donbas.

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[dbc]

@Yommie @F-22Raptor @Get Ya Wig Split please stick to the topic.

700k dead and wounded is a large number and deserves a separate discussion.
@Musings please let me sort this out.

 

[dbc]

@Get Ya Wig Split set your flags it's the law.

 

[Yommie]

@Viet

The Kiev rioters are losing lots of tanks to the Allied forces cheap plastic wire guided drones.

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[Yommie]

The reality is this isn't about Ukraine

This is about the western order and it's hold over the world

If Russia wins, it's another nail in the coffin of the western order and another Indicator of the rise of the east


The west worst mistake is the Gaza conflict, the sheer hypocrisy and support for the Jews whilst trying to talk about human rights and Russian occupation is COMICAL

The West destroyed its own manufacturing with socialism after the Cold War. The West basically have no manufacturing compared to Russia let alone compared to China.

 

[PakFactor]

Yes but much smaller Ukraine has suffered similar numbers.

For some time Ukraine has been dragging men off the streets and sending them to the front.

Anytime I open up my browser to check out the news, it's always Ukraine killed so and so Russians and destroyed so and so equipment, yet I never hear what the Ukrainians are losing while they drag men and women leaving the bars.

 

[newb3e]

Russian Soldiers Dead - 700,000

NATO Soldiers Dead - 0

like cockroaches,indians,americans,Israels now nato or allied troops are fking immortals!

 

[Yommie]

Anytime I open up my browser to check out the news, it's always Ukraine killed so and so Russians and destroyed so and so equipment, yet I never hear what the Ukrainians are losing while they drag men and women leaving the bars.

The Kiev rioters has more losses compared to the Allies who have more soldiers and more firepower.

 

[Yommie]

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[F-22Raptor]

The reality is this isn't about Ukraine

This is about the western order and it's hold over the world

If Russia wins, it's another nail in the coffin of the western order and another Indicator of the rise of the east


The west worst mistake is the Gaza conflict, the sheer hypocrisy and support for the Jews whilst trying to talk about human rights and Russian occupation is COMICAL

Russia strategically lost this war two years ago, but because Putin couldn’t admit that his plan to conquer Kyiv and Ukraine failed, he had to double down and significantly downgrade his goals to the Donbass.

Whether Russia captures the Donbass or not is ultimately irrelevant in the strategic outlook. Ukraine is independent and will join the West for decades to come.

Russia lost and it’s time to come to terms with that. Their goals failed and Army ruined. Whether they capture the next 10 miles in front of them over the next year is irrelevant.

Ukraine is free and independent

 

[Yommie]

Russia strategically lost this war two years ago, but because Putin couldn’t admit that his plan to conquer Kyiv and Ukraine failed, he had to double down and significantly downgrade his goals to the Donbass.

Whether Russia captures the Donbass or not is ultimately irrelevant in the strategic outlook. Ukraine is independent and will join the West for decades to come.

Russia lost and it’s time to come to terms with that. Their goals failed and Army ruined. Whether they capture the next 10 miles in front of them over the next year is irrelevant.

Ukraine is free and independent

It's irrelevant. German troops took Paris in the France Germany war and ultimately only took Alsace Lorraine which has an ethnic German majority demographics. There's no evidence Russia will ever take Kiev.

 

[Yommie]

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[hussain0216]

Russia strategically lost this war two years ago, but because Putin couldn’t admit that his plan to conquer Kyiv and Ukraine failed, he had to double down and significantly downgrade his goals to the Donbass.

Whether Russia captures the Donbass or not is ultimately irrelevant in the strategic outlook. Ukraine is independent and will join the West for decades to come.

Russia lost and it’s time to come to terms with that. Their goals failed and Army ruined. Whether they capture the next 10 miles in front of them over the next year is irrelevant.

Ukraine is free and independent

Russias stated aims since 2014 is the defence of the russian speaking population in Eastern Ukraine

This turned into freedom of eastern Ukraine from the crimea to the donbass


Ukraine will NOT be allowed into NATO, the orange boob has already stated that in negotiations they ensure Ukraine is kept out for atleast 20 years to appease Russia

And Russia will complete the freedom of Donbass soon and unless Ukraine submits through negotiations (pushed by trump) then the Russians will aim for Odessa and make Ukraine a land locked state