Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates
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_Arabia_
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The incompetence in Ukraine has been staggering. Good old human wave tactics seem to be making the difference though just like during the era of Stalin.
If anyone thought, before the war, that Russia had any remote chance against NATO in a conventional war, those thoughts are probably no longer taken seriously by even such people.
Yommie
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To be honest, Europeans historically aren't that good at war compared to Chinese. Chinese are far more cunning when it comes to war.
hussain0216
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Easy tiger, easy
hussain0216
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The russians were always brutal, and the russians have gone VERY VERY VERY EASY on the Ukrainians
Do you know why? Because the Ukrainians are white Christian slavs like them.
As a result Russia has not decimated the cities, or churches or schools or hospitals like the did in Gaza or Iraq
This has been a brutal grind at the front line between Russia and a coalition of 30-40 countries
Russia has done ok, if it went full old school Russia on the cities and people of Ukraine, this would be over
Their is a lesson for everyone here, especially Muslim states
_Arabia_
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Not sure about that one. If you look at some of those "liberated" areas in Ukraine there is nothing left of them. The death toll (civilian) in Ukraine is probably in the 100.000's. Mostly unaccounted for.
Anyway I don't care about Russia or Ukraine, I just don't want to hear the nonsense about Russia being some kind of superpower. Remove the nukes, and they are mostly a paper tiger that can't even defeat the poorest country in Europe (Ukraine) next door that has no geographical barriers of any sort. All the fighting is done on flat empty agricultural land.
I mean even the USSR received a pathetic beating in Afghanistan and that was in the 1980's.
Neither Russia or the West (leaders) are our friends. I cringe when I listen to those pro-Russian Muslims. When half of Russia's current territory was stolen from native Muslims that they helped genocide (Circassians, various other Caucasian peoples, Tatars and what not).
In fact Russia has probably killed more Muslims than anyone else if you include their wars with the Ottomans (which they dominated) and just what they did in Syria recently or their support for the Serbs in the Balkans against the Bosnians and Albanians.
Did you know that it was the Russians and the UK (mainly) that caused the famines in Iran that killed over 10 million Iranians?
Persian famine of 1917–1919 - Wikipedia
They did it twice even.
Iranian famine of 1942–1943 - Wikipedia
The less is said about their support for idiotic pro-USSR Arab regimes the better.
Horrible lot (leaderships at least).
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Yommie
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Even in WW2 Russians never bombed German cities or targeted German civilians like the Brits and the Yanks did. Russians are originally Finno people and they are pretty soft compared to Brits and Yanks.
hussain0216
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Not sure about that one. If you look at some of those "liberated" areas in Ukraine there is nothing left of them. The death toll (civilian) in Ukraine is probably in the 100.000's. Mostly unaccounted for.
Anyway I don't care about Russia or Ukraine, I just don't want to hear the nonsense about Russia being some kind of superpower. Remove the nukes, and they are mostly a paper tiger that can't even defeat the poorest country in Europe (Ukraine) next door that has no geographical barriers of any sort. All the fighting is done on flat empty agricultural land.
I mean even the USSR received a pathetic beating in Afghanistan and that was in the 1980's.
Neither Russia or the West (leaders) are our friends. I cringe when I listen to those pro-Russian Muslims. When half of Russia's current territory was stolen from native Muslims that they helped genocide (Circassians, various other Caucasian peoples, Tatars and what not).
In fact Russia has probably killed more Muslims than anyone else if you include their wars with the Ottomans (which they dominated) and just what they did in Syria recently or their support for the Serbs in the Balkans against the Bosnians and Albanians.
Did you know that it was the Russians and the UK (mainly) that caused the famines in Iran that killed over 10 million Iranians?
Persian famine of 1917–1919 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
They did it twice even.
Iranian famine of 1942–1943 - Wikipedia
Horrible lot.
Russians are scum, in many ways more hostile to Muslims then the west were, I couldn't give a toss about either the russians or the Ukrainians and I'm happy they've killed about 2 million and growing of each other
I've said this before Russia has a demographic crisis going on , but it's Muslim population is growing fine and it's migration from central Asia is fine because they need the workers to keep the economy going
This was has been fine for the Muslim world and it can help us get through russians our of the middle east, leaving us just the U.S and Jews to deal with
Ali_Baba
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Very "innovative design" -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb . Germans beat Ukraine to this approach some 80-85 years ago ..
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