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[Han Patriot]

Nato is not a threat to Russia.

if Ukraine still keeps nuclear weapons or joins the Nato this war would not happen.

of course for Europe it’s dumb to rely on the US for security.
the same dumb thing to rely on Russia for energy supply or China for cheap imports.

NAtO is not a threat, dude what are you guys smoking. Ukraine was USSR, highly pro Russian, they gave it up because they didn't see a threat from Russia. If they were neutral, there won't be any threat. US was the one pushing them to give up nukes, it wasn't the Russians. The US were afraid of another nuclear power other than Russia. You are mistaking the brainwashed Ukrabazis with the previous generation Soviets. Well at least you know Europe is dumb, that I agree. Europe could have been a real sovereign power, but they let ideology cloud their minds. They should have dismantled NAtO and took the Russians in to become a real mega power. But the dumb globalist libtards can't see through their jewish agenda

 

[Viet]

NAtO is not a threat, dude what are you guys smoking. Ukraine was USSR, highly pro Russian, they gave it up because they didn't see a threat from Russia. If they were neutral, there won't be any threat. US was the one pushing them to give up nukes, it wasn't the Russians. The US were afraid of another nuclear power other than Russia. You are mistaking the brainwashed Ukrabazis with the previous generation Soviets.

saying Ukraine is a threat to the russians is like Vietnam military is a threat to the PLA.
the few hundreds ukraine nazi is a threat to 6,000 russian nukes?
get real man.

of course for Ukraine it’s the dumbest thing ever, giving up nuclear weapons in exchange to warm words from Washington and Moscow.
if it comes to ultimate survival you are alone, you can only rely on yourself.

 

[j_hungary]

Are you under the rock? China buys energy, ore and minerals from Russia and process it to final products that you buy in your walmart, we can say that you finance putin war machine everyday, lol.
I never saw stranger cope out about defeat than yours one, you are in silent treatment about usa withdrawal from game completely and talking giberish about russian economy which is more or less irrelevant for war outcome,

First of all, as if China had not already bought Russian energy and mineral, does that change the economic situation in any way? It still 21% interest rate with 10% inflation.

Second of all, energy and mineral will not reach trillion level deal, Russia energy sector as a whole is a 250 to 300 billion and China cannot buy them all, oil and gas have a capacity, even if China buy extra, there is a limit on how much they can actually buy.

LOL,

And again, that's all the fact there are, believe it or not and if you still think Russia is ahead, then all I can say is come back next February and we shall see if the war had stopped or Ukrainian line had collapsed like you said every year since the war begin.

 

[Han Patriot]

Are you under the rock? China buys energy, ore and minerals from Russia and process it to final products that you buy in your walmart, we can say that you finance putin war machine everyday, lol.
I never saw stranger cope out about defeat than yours one, you are in silent treatment about usa withdrawal from game completely and talking giberish about russian economy which is more or less irrelevant for war outcome,

You are explaining to a genius in this forum. He stopped debating with me after I caught him lying multiple times

 

[Han Patriot]

saying Ukraine is a threat to the russians is like Vietnam military is a threat to the PLA.
the few hundreds ukraine nazi is a threat to 6,000 russian nukes?
get real man.

of course for Ukraine it’s the dumbest thing ever, giving up nuclear weapons in exchange to warm words from Washington and Moscow.
if it comes to ultimate survival you are alone, you can only rely on yourself.

Ukraine is not a threat to Russia, NATo is. Why should the buffer zone get destroyed and let NATo expand until their doorstep.imagine Mexico being a Russian ally with missiles stationed there. BTW, without NATo non of this would have happened.

 

[mulj]

most IQs were killed off or burned in gas chambers, the rest was migrated to Israel and the US.
that’s why Europe is dumbed down.

Lol, jew myths...

 

[mulj]

First of all, as if China had not already bought Russian energy and mineral, does that change the economic situation in any way? It still 21% interest rate with 10% inflation.

Second of all, energy and mineral will not reach trillion level deal, Russia energy sector as a whole is a 250 to 300 billion and China cannot buy them all, oil and gas have a capacity, even if China buy extra, there is a limit on how much they can actually buy.

LOL,

And again, that's all the fact there are, believe it or not and if you still think Russia is ahead, then all I can say is come back next February and we shall see if the war had stopped or Ukrainian line had collapsed like you said every year since the war begin.

Oh no, it is panic, russia is withdrawing from ukraina due interest rates and inflation.
Cant you see how silly are your arguments are?

 

[Viet]

Ukraine is not a threat to Russia, NATo is. Why should the buffer zone get destroyed and let NATo expand until their doorstep.imagine Mexico being a Russian ally with missiles stationed there. BTW, without NATo non of this would have happened.

Nato can kill off Russia. yes, that’s the fact.
but to do a preemptive nuclear strike all 32 Nato countries would agree.

let’s assume Ukraine is in the alliance, can you imagine Ukraine would agree?

man, you know what would happen. Ukraine would turn into nuclear ashes.

Russia, Ukraine and other 100 countries burn into atoms.

 

[j_hungary]

Oh no, it is panic, russia is withdrawing from ukraina due interest rates and inflation.
Cant you see how silly are your arguments are?

I didn't say Russia will withdraw from Ukraine due to interest rate and inflation. I said the war is going to keep going and you and I will be here again next year and we would still be talking about "Ukrainian line is about to collapse".

I said the economy is going to hell with interest rate and inflation even if Russia HAD WON. That have no bearing on Ukraine see nothing currently at the negotiation table to "talk" again, what Russia can ask Ukraine to concede when they themselves have issue even trying to take 20%, just 20% of Ukrainian land. Would you think Ukraine would drop NATO bid because Russia is currently occupying 20% of Ukraine territories? Theoretically, the only thing Russia could ask is for Ukraine to vacate Donbas so Russian can occupied as a whole, but then Ukraine could and most likely will say no, because why I would even want to cede land to you that you haven't been able to capture in 3 years? If you want them? Come and get it.

Also, US is not a big player with Ukrainian aid anymore. There were NO aid Package passed by US Congress for 10 months the last package passed is the one that drag on since November and passed on April 2024. That is the reason why EU finally surpassed the US as major doner to Ukraine. How did the last 10 months goes? Oh, Kursk got invaded and they still can't take Pokrovsk........

As I said, this war is going on because there is still no point to talk, you can think whatever you want and think Trump can change this, he can't, and the only thing left to do is for me to come back next February and said "I've told you so" when we are still commenting on this thread

 

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[j_hungary]

Nato can kill off Russia. yes, that’s the fact.
but to do a preemptive nuclear strike all 32 Nato countries would agree.

let’s assume Ukraine is in the alliance, can you imagine Ukraine would agree?

man, you know what would happen. Ukraine would turn into nuclear ashes.

Russia, Ukraine and other 100 countries burn into atoms.

The person you replying know shit about geopolitics and even less about Geography.

Ukraine is in the South West of Russia, the distant between any point in Ukraine to Moscow is longer than the distance from anywhere East of Riga, Latvia. Since Latvia is to their direct West. So it wouldn't make sense for NATO to need Ukraine to position missile to strike Moscow.

If such "threat" exist, it would have existed BEFORE any NATO movement into Ukraine. In fact, if such "threat" existed, It amplified this threat now since Finland had joined NATO because of this war. When it was used to be US (Alaska/Canada) to the East. Turkey to the South and only Baltics to the West, now you also put in Finland in the North and Sweden to plug the Baltic Gap.

 

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