Something Strange

[Goenitz]

I will be saying many things here, which the touchy sensitive Iran lovers wont like.

I don't think the Persian empire even wants to make peace with the Arabs, who happen to be the people who ended the Persian empire .
Its like oxygen to the Iranian regime ,and essential for their survival.
The entire Gulf region had been plagued with Iran Backed Shia insurgencies and threats to the Ruling kings. Shah Saud dubbed as Aal e Yahood by Iran, and very intentional and highly evolved propaganda against the Arabs. The main reason why the Arabs fell into the USA laps for protection.
Intentional and pre planned disruptions of hajj started as soon as Khomeini took over in 1979. The first Hajj after him, was Iranian Hajis coming to Hajj with Big pictures of Khomeini, and displaying that During Hajj rituals. When the Arabs tried to stop that, they were dubbed Wahabi, anti Iran.
Then the 2015 Mina Stampede which caused 2500 Haji losing their lives, also had Iranian hands.
Then an elected government of Yemen which was sunni, was overthrown by Shia supported by Iran, and the country is still in a civil war.

Until the time Iran stops Creating and supporting Shia insurgencies all over middle east, and stops trying to overthrow the Arab monarchs and stop their Anti Arab propaganda, the Arabs will remain wary of Ira, , will continue looking elsewhere for protection, and nothing will change.

i know but we should start over at some point. The whole Idea is that cooperation wins in the end.

This Iran conflict has made China and Israel (somewhat) the biggest successors. The Gulf can draw 2 lessons from it.
1) They are their own
2) Regional conflict makes israel a regional hegemon.

 

[safriz]

i know but we should start over at some point. The whole Idea is that cooperation wins in the end.

This Iran conflict has made China and Israel (somewhat) the biggest successors. The Gulf can draw 2 lessons from it.
1) They are their own
2) Regional conflict makes israel a regional hegemon.

The takeaway for thw Arabs is that USA won't save them. They will have to save themselves.
I hope they change their policy of hosting US combat troops.
But I don't think Iran will change their policy about the Arabs.
They have hit Arabs harder than they have hit Israel.
There the clue about whom they were fighting against.
While apart from a single MLRS video , there's no evidence that any American attacks were launched against Iran from Arab countries.

One more thing to remember that Arabs fought two wars against Israel, in which Iran had no contribution as Shahs iran was not against Israel.


Changing policies will help both the Arabs and the Iranians.

 

[Goenitz]

Money always complicates matters especially with blood ties that grow weaker by distance. Aiui you live in UK mostly, many of those family that live in Pakistan can have ties grow colder over time if you dont interact very often. Its another reason i would make a comcious effort to connect with family and friends in person to make sure that they can see me for a person to talk and understand,

@Ak01

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Connections if are immediate, then it is hard to (defect) deceive others. The shortcuts here mean that we bypass norms or family circle, or law, which create the crisis (trust deficit, predatory nature, selfishness, worries, etc).
On social media, as we don't see others and can hide ourselves, so we (defect) openly use foul language or are aggressive.

Still, be advised. People think and see differently with time. So, there is always the risk of them turning their eyes away from you.

The other lesson is from Bosnia war

Thread 'A message from a Bosnian muslim'

Nov 29, 2025

Dear Muslims of the world who are living in non Muslim majority areas listed to this guy please. Forward the msg if you think it was important.

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Lesson # 1 "Well armed and be organised"
Lesson # 2 "Never give up your weapon to somebody who promises to make you safe"

Here, you should be armed with proper documents and shouldn't give up that right (weapon).
Always worry about capacity, and not the intent. If you give your paper and money without any powerful mediator/witness/broker (who is on your side) or legal agreement, then the other party, no matter how pious and has good intentions, now has the capacity to commit fraud. So, always consider capacity and not the goodwill in making deals. Assumption always kills that yeh tau bohat naik ha or yeh aesa nahi kary ga. Humans are weak and prone to making mistakes/crimes.

Like Quaid said, "A country without a strong Air Force is at the mercy of any aggressor." So, always have the capacity where you wanna invest. We can't be at the mercy of others to treat us fairly or rightly.

Lastly, it seems like Pak has like 90% defectors or non-cooperative people. Nobody can play just, as he will get crushed.

 

[Goenitz]

@Fatman17
just saying that though it is a video but based on published research and studies. It is mainly related to social sciences, so I posted that in that forum.
Lastly, the title was a Mod Edit

 

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