Starmer’s future hangs in balance after Burnham’s Makerfield election win

[Yasser76]

I am thinking of retiring to the villages in the UK, alot lot cheaper than the main cities, though the weather is not as nice as Italy or Spain.

Pros and cons there depending on where you retire. I did consider this, SE still expensive, looked at Cornwall and Devon too but Daughter is working in London so a bit far off. Even moving to Spain or Italy you can live in luxury, low cost of energy and groceries, pool, and I can visit daughter and family via a 90 minute Easyjet flight for £100.

See how tempting it is to leave?

 

[Yasser76]

What is the UK’s future economic competitiveness actually based on? It doesn’t innovate enough or create billion dollar new industries the way the US does. Past wealth can only carry you so far. At this rate, the UK seems headed for lower living standards, and politicians will end up looking for new scapegoats to keep the public angry at someone else.

Oh do f**k off Paj. India right now would be falling over themselves to join Tempest fighter project and ask for "Phull technalagy transfaaar saaaar!"

The UK may have issues, but lets not kid ourselves, when it comes to tech, innovation and skills it is far far far ahead of India

 

[Ali_Baba]

Pros and cons there depending on where you retire. I did consider this, SE still expensive, looked at Cornwall and Devon too but Daughter is working in London so a bit far off. Even moving to Spain or Italy you can live in luxury, low cost of energy and groceries, pool, and I can visit daughter and family via a 90 minute Easyjet flight for £100.

See how tempting it is to leave?

Having spent a lot of time living as an expat in mainland Europe, it being a local language wise is quite isolating esp given our complexions aswell. It sounds good, reality is a bit different etc.

Good luck if you do, the weather is a lot better!

 

[Yasser76]

Having spent a lot of time living as an expat in mainland Europe, it being a local language wise is quite isolating esp given our complexions aswell. It sounds good, reality is a bit different etc.

Good luck if you do, the weather is a lot better!

Yes, my wife is fluent in Italian and Spanish, she did warn me of this too. I just think its a price worth paying rather then growing old in the UK now. I did not used to think like this, but country has changed, or maybe thats what everyone thinks whenever they get to a certain age?

 

[harpy1]

I am thinking of retiring to the villages in the UK, alot lot cheaper than the main cities, though the weather is not as nice as Italy or Spain.

I was thinking the same finishing my rat race banking career selling my detached boys moved out..

But I'm concerned about the racial divide will I actually settle now will I be accepted in the local village pub

Tbf I on my national trust days out I'm.fine people are great on the countryside..
But then I see the demos the day time TV shows on race quotes from. Reform and restore and think Ammi better where I am in mixed community

But I love the English countryside and the history and need slower simpler life

Punjab maybe ?
Nah can't manage more than three weeks tbh

God I hope I don't get deported by farage and co

 

[Musings]

Pros and cons there depending on where you retire. I did consider this, SE still expensive, looked at Cornwall and Devon too but Daughter is working in London so a bit far off. Even moving to Spain or Italy you can live in luxury, low cost of energy and groceries, pool, and I can visit daughter and family via a 90 minute Easyjet flight for £100.

See how tempting it is to leave?

Come up to Yorkshire bro - family for 4 eat out - drink as much as you like - pay your electric bill and gas and petrol bill and still have change from a tenner.......

 

[Musings]

I was thinking the same finishing my rat race banking career selling my detached boys moved out..

But I'm concerned about the racial divide will I actually settle now will I be accepted in the local village pub

Tbf I on my national trust days out I'm.fine people are great on the countryside..
But then I see the demos the day time TV shows on race quotes from. Reform and restore and think Ammi better where I am in mixed community

But I love the English countryside and the history and need slower simpler life

Punjab maybe ?
Nah can't manage more than three weeks tbh

God I hope I don't get deported by farage and co

You are right bro - you wont be accepted in the majority of these places but there are good areas - for example Wales - i go their frequently - place called Ammanford. Brilliant area and places to visit................

 

[Yasser76]

Come up to Yorkshire bro - family for 4 eat out - drink as much as you like - pay your electric bill and gas and petrol bill and still have change from a tenner.......

Yeah, not a bad call but all family are in SE and also I have spent winter there man, that is no joke. Some lovely parts of Yorkshire too, like Harrowgate. Tragically probably cheaper and easier to fly to Luton from Spain.

Cost of living in retirement is so much lower abroad mate, even compared to Yorkshire. Also fresh fish, veg and even fresh halal meat in Italy and Spain can be had, we can probably afford 5 bedroom villa with pool for what you would pay for a 3 bed semi in SE

 

[Yasser76]

You are right bro - you wont be accepted in the majority of these places but there are good areas - for example Wales - i go their frequently - place called Ammanford. Brilliant area and places to visit................

Mate retired at 50 in Wales, has 5 acres, massive lawn, horses for the kids and big cottage with 4 bedrooms. He was not that wealthy, just get more for your money, but we hardly see him now

 

[harpy1]

You are right bro - you wont be accepted in the majority of these places but there are good areas - for example Wales - i go their frequently - place called Ammanford. Brilliant area and places to visit................

I love Cotswolds and Malvern
I like the English history quaintness and quiet life ..
I was always going to move when I finish work
But this nonsense of English flags and the media had me questioning my plans
As a non white person I have to be careful were I live too

Somebody mentioned abroad
I absolutely love the Italian lakes in the north my favourite holidays always ...would be awesome to wake up in those lakes and mountains every day far far away from the hatred here in UK

But some many things to consider
Including language unfortunately

 

[Musings]

Yeah, not a bad call but all family are in SE and also I have spent winter there man, that is no joke. Some lovely parts of Yorkshire too, like Harrowgate. Tragically probably cheaper and easier to fly to Luton from Spain.

Cost of living in retirement is so much lower abroad mate, even compared to Yorkshire. Also fresh fish, veg and even fresh halal meat in Italy and Spain can be had, we can probably afford 5 bedroom villa with pool for what you would pay for a 3 bed semi in SE

Harrogate - York and Holmfirth to name a few. After Brexit - thought about a move - Norway or Scotland were mentioned. Family ties and school kids etc gets awkward and the move was put on a back burner.
When we go to London and visit friends i always think the prices for what you get is hideously different.
Hope the divide between North and South may get closer next few years with Burnham

 

[Yasser76]

Harrogate - York and Holmfirth to name a few. After Brexit - thought about a move - Norway or Scotland were mentioned. Family ties and school kids etc gets awkward and the move was put on a back burner.
When we go to London and visit friends i always think the prices for what you get is hideously different.
Hope the divide between North and South may get closer next few years with Burnham

Yeah, I have a mate in Norway, married a Norwegian girl. Funnily enough there are quite a few Pakistanis in Oslo and Lillstrom.

Only thing is the winters there. The snow and lack of daylight hours gets depressing man. More i holiday in southern Europe more I am convinced to retire there. Also I like the Spanish and Italian attitudes to wards family and elders, importance of family time over work, attitude towards good eating and of course the weather. If my financial planning goes well and last few years in the job I get the bonuses I think i can then possibly look at a small flat somewhere just outside London like Uxbridge or Rickmansworth area and villa in Italy or Spain. That would be the dream.
I think if you have family up North and a decent pension then it is worth it, also depends on what you want out of retirement right? Some just want to play golf and spend time with family, others travelling etc

 

[vasanthm]

Oh do f**k off Paj. India right now would be falling over themselves to join Tempest fighter project and ask for "Phull technalagy transfaaar saaaar!"

The UK may have issues, but lets not kid ourselves, when it comes to tech, innovation and skills it is far far far ahead of India

Who's saying it's not? But the trajectory of the UK is not upward.. you BBC's are an odd bunch

 

[Yasser76]

Who's saying it's not? But the trajectory of the UK is not upward.. you BBC's are an odd bunch

BBCs? That is very very funny. If only you knew Paj.....