Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[_Arabia_]

I don’t think uae would family that weren’t involved in the conflict at least on the surface aren’t really thought after I’m sure like everyone else they profited from Syrias corruption but that would make most Arab and Muslim leaders family worldwide guilty of the same thing.
UAE nor Saudis are going to be courting Bashar to come live with them and if Putin did give him short notice that would mean Bashars cash stash is running low to pay off bribes to keep him safe in Russia Bashar is irrelevant no one is even mention him accept jolani and better off to keep him out of Syria he’s a laughing stock but bring him back to Syria to be hanged you make him a martyr really quick.
Let’s be honest and I’m just going to throw a blanket accusation to all groups during the Syrian civil war they have all been part of some kind of war crime none of them are innocent many on each side used brutal tactics on civilian and military targets so honestly if people want to start fresh they should all be honest of brutal tactics from all sides no one is innocent during Syria war but civilians

I am just saying that the UAE has been hosting Al-Assad family members (prominent ones too) during the hight of the Syrian Civil War and even (apparently) afterwards (some remnants at least).

I don't agree with this logic. He is highly relevant for the millions of Syrians that lost loved ones due to his regime either directly or indirectly. People (Syrians) want to have those responsible for 40-50 years of crimes during the Al-Assad regime, being held accountable one way or another. It is only natural.

That is like saying that Palestinians should not be pursuing Netanyahu and other Israeli figures for war crimes or other crimes if they had such an opportunity. Most Palestinians would love to see that happening. Most people for that matter.

Of course there are no saints in wars, less so civil wars, but you and I both know that the Al-Assad regime could have prevented most of the bloodshed if they had reformed/listened to their own people rather than slaughtering them and inviting foreigners in (Iran and Russia) to help kill them on a massive scale. Of course such behavior gives rise to extremism. Once again, think about Hamas as a reaction/creation of Israeli actions. Same sound logic.

is it me or do Uyghurs need their own village not a fan of jihadists but honestly if they can live in peace they should be settled in Syria and maybe have their families brought to live there.
Ps when I say their own village more of reward than segregation as long as they decide to live in peace and build up Syria why not reward a group that was a large part of jolani victory

Why have their own separate villages? They, like other foreign volunteers (Chechens, foreign Arabs, Turks etc.) have all largely integrated into Syria (after all those years) learned Arabic and many even married local Syrians. By all accounts they are no different than you as an American-Arab or the Arab/Muslim communities in the West. Part of the social fabric/country now. Their off-spring will be as well.

As far as more extreme elements, I agree, and I think that the Syrian government has made guarantees to countries that they will not be used against them to create harm. Which is fair, they came to Syria for a cause to remove the Al-Assad regime and protect/help fellow Muslims and that should be it. If they want changes in their original homelands, they should leave Syria.

BTW I saw plenty of interviews with Chechens and Uyghurs speaking in fluent Arabic (of course with an accent in many cases) talking about their experience and personal histories and what they went through and saw. Quite interesting from a military perspective.

 

[Shags101]

I am just saying that the UAE has been hosting Al-Assad family members (prominent ones too) during the hight of the Syrian Civil War and even (apparently) afterwards (some remnants at least).

I don't agree with this logic. He is highly relevant for the millions of Syrians that lost loved ones due to his regime either directly or indirectly. People (Syrians) want to have those responsible for 40-50 years of crimes during the Al-Assad regime, being held accountable one way or another. It is only natural.

That is like saying that Palestinians should not be pursuing Netanyahu and other Israeli figures for war crimes or other crimes if they had such an opportunity. Most Palestinians would love to see that happening. Most people for that matter.

Of course there are no saints in wars, less so civil wars, but you and I both know that the Al-Assad regime could have prevented most of the bloodshed if they had reformed/listened to their own people rather than slaughtering them and inviting foreigners in (Iran and Russia) to help kill them on a massive scale. Of course such behavior gives rise to extremism. Once again, think about Hamas as a reaction/creation of Israeli actions. Same sound logic.


Why have their own separate villages? They, like other foreign volunteers (Chechens, foreign Arabs, Turks etc.) have all largely integrated into Syria (after all those years) learned Arabic and many even married local Syrians. By all accounts they are no different than you as an American-Arab or the Arab/Muslim communities in the West. Part of the social fabric/country now. Their off-spring will be as well.

As far as more extreme elements, I agree, and I think that the Syrian government has made guarantees to countries that they will not be used against them to create harm. Which is fair, they came to Syria for a cause to remove the Al-Assad regime and protect/help fellow Muslims and that should be it. If they want changes in their original homelands, they should leave Syria.

BTW I saw plenty of interviews with Chechens and Uyghurs speaking in fluent Arabic (of course with an accent in many cases) talking about their experience and personal histories and what they went through and saw. Quite interesting from a military perspective.

I just said a reward to give them land etc that isn’t being used again nothing against them as long as they are building up Syria,.
yeah he’s irrelevant to Syria at this time there are many different folks who committed brutal acts of violence many in jolanis circle you bring him home and execute him your just making a martyr out of him if he was returned to Syria and sent to the icc I would agree to that but being tried in kangaroo court I wouldn’t agree we all know he’s guilty but come on we have seen corrupt Arab states try Arab “leaders” it’s almost laughable not saying jolani is corrupt but since we can’t say his hands are clean of innocent blood we can’t pretend he can accuse others of crimes he’s also been linked to

 

[hyperman]

is it me or do Uyghurs need their own village not a fan of jihadists but honestly if they can live in peace they should be settled in Syria and maybe have their families brought to live there.
Ps when I say their own village more of reward than segregation as long as they decide to live in peace and build up Syria why not reward a group that was a large part of jolani victory

They already married into Syrian families.

 

[Shags101]

They already married into Syrian families.

Yeah I get that again there’s nothing wrong with Muslims from all over the world mixing together I even have a cousin whose married to a Pakistani man nice guy and let’s not talk about all of the cousins who aren’t married to Muslim women I’m just saying to offer them land of their own in a patch of Syria as a reward for all of their help that includes the chechens no sarcasm i may not agree with everything that’s going on in Syria but to be fair it’s been a lot quieter than people expected minus a few bouts of violence here and there

 

[hyperman]

Yeah I get that again there’s nothing wrong with Muslims from all over the world mixing together I even have a cousin whose married to a Pakistani man nice guy and let’s not talk about all of the cousins who aren’t married to Muslim women I’m just saying to offer them land of their own in a patch of Syria as a reward for all of their help that includes the chechens no sarcasm i may not agree with everything that’s going on in Syria but to be fair it’s been a lot quieter than people expected minus a few bouts of violence here and there

They can live amongst the people, they follow the law and they speak arabic, its not an issue, if they wish to collectively build a village or whatever thats their prerogative.

 

[hyperman]

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Man just showed up to Fajr, no bodyguards nothing, like another random person at the masjid. lol

 

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[Foinikas]

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Man just showed up to Fajr, no bodyguards nothing, like another random person at the masjid. lol

Are you REALLY that gullible?

Yeah it's like Assad's "I can drive anywhere I want with my car with no security,nobody around". Security and bodyguards in the distance,discreetly keeping an eye.

 

[Bharatah]

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His first visit was also to KSA.

People forget that blood (same ethnicity), culture, language, sect, geography etc. will always prevail eventually. Even more so in places like the Arab world where kinship ties are no joke.

Al-Sharaa is also from Southern Syria which along with Eastern Syria, Southern Syria (Damascus is included) are the areas of Syria with the closest tribal, clan (many recent) ties with KSA. In fact those ties cover all of Syria, north included and extend into Turkey/Anatolia since almost 2 millennia. Which is why Najdi dialects among Turkish Arabs are spoken to this day. Modern-day borders and states have no impact on those ancient ties.

His father has also lived in KSA for decades and I believe that he remains living in KSA.

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Anyway It is related to the FII9 summit in Riyadh.

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[hyperman]

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[Foinikas]

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Are you serious?!

 

[Shags101]

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My wife makes me do the same thing….at least we know he’s whipped like every other married man makes him more human

 

[hyperman]

Are you serious?!

They came on European and US passports. Its not something that unknown, there have been many who have visited Dahiya as well in Beirut.

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