Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation
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Watandar
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He was an agent of Turkey, West and GCC in a foreign imposed war on Syria. He has come to get new orders from his masters.
Jolani designated a terrorist in 2013, to provide deep cover
Here is Mr Jolani from 2021. The signs were always there he was a Western asset.
The Jihadist | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site | Documentary Series
Watch FRONTLINE’s documentary about why the Syrian militant Abu Mohammad al-Jolani, designated a terrorist by the U.S., sought a new relationship with the West.
www.pbs.org
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He was an agent of Turkey, West and GCC in a foreign imposed war on Syria. He has come to get new orders from his masters.
Jolani designated a terrorist in 2013, to provide deep cover
Here is Mr Jolani from 2021. The signs were always there he was a Western asset.
The Jihadist | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site | Documentary Series
Watch FRONTLINE’s documentary about why the Syrian militant Abu Mohammad al-Jolani, designated a terrorist by the U.S., sought a new relationship with the West.www.pbs.org
The guy liberated Syria from a dictator..and you say all these bad things about him..You are a bit out of context..
Watandar
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Only Mr Jolani and his sponsors are halal.
Shags101
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Well to be fair it’s I don’t agree he worked for the cia or Mossad etc but also his group under his orders or not have committed acts of violence against the opposing side is it on the scale of Bashars people no but no one’s hands are clean during the civil war sad to say.
I definitely want to see a future for Syria honestly maybe jolani isn’t the same guy during the Iraq or Syrian war maybe he wants a better Syria for all but I’m guessing that’s to be seen when national elections are held under a unified Syria which it isn’t yet I’m hoping if all these guys are serious they don’t take the same bait as ruling another Arab country with sham elections.
Shags101
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Have you on block and find you quite inflammatory but don’t necessarily disagree I mean even jolani came to power from indirect help of Israel weakening Iran and Hezbollah grasp on Syria and the west has kept many of these Arab leaders in play because it benefits them saddam was beneficial to them at one time until he wasn’t.
Khorasan Black Flags
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You are stating crystal clear facts
All of Arab dictatorship regimes are chosen by west and they directly or indirectly benefits zionists; If they don't serve zionists and west they won't be in their power
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Shags101
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I will be honest I hope he does become a Mandela instead of another Arab “strongman” I really hope he becomes a uniter for all men women and whatever faith are in Syria it’s just history has shown us otherwise when it comes to all of these leaders
Khorasan Black Flags
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HTS leader Ahmad Al-Sharaa met with the Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee of the US House of Representatives.
it's noteworthy that he lost his feet in Afghanistan at the hands of the Taliban and volunteered for the IDF to fight against Gaza.
Jolani met with an American who has blood of Afghans and Palestinians on his hands.
it's noteworthy that he lost his feet in Afghanistan at the hands of the Taliban and volunteered for the IDF to fight against Gaza.
Jolani met with an American who has blood of Afghans and Palestinians on his hands.
GoatsMilk
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Isreal and the anglo-american zionist axis could have took assad out at any moment they wanted to. If their able to take out top iranian guys like its nothing, place bombs in hezbollah pages etc, they could have ended Assad and his dynasty over night. But that wasn't the plan, the plan was to keep in him power for as long as possible so the country could destroy itself and eventually balkanise.
The obvious region where this was overtly taking place was in the north east with the PKK affiliates. I suspect that they had hoped in the end assad would have remained in power to also create a small Alawite state too. PKK state, Sunni state, Alawite state and a state for the Druze, really any other minority they could use to further carve up that state. But no state for the Turkmen populations of Syria.
In the early days Turkiye tried to get assad to make constitutional concessions to avert the revolt. If anyone remembers Erdogan had great relations then with Assad, training Syria's army for example was going on by the Turkish military.
The problem Turkiye faced was that when it became clear that assad wasn't going to move and the writing was on the wall that civil war would engulf that nation, Turkiye didnt want to risk happening there what happened in Iraq. So they sided with the rebels. What i mean by this is that when Turkiye voted against american deployments to be used against Iraq, all that happened is Iraq got destroyed and the USA created their first piece of the Kurdistan agenda in the north of that nation. That project directly aims to undermine the peace, security and sovereignty of Turkiye.
Turkiye actually wanted to intervene early in the syrian conflict to end this war. Davutoglu said at the time that Turkiye could remove assad either with UN security council approval and if that couldn't be achieved, then with NATO's consent instead. They didnt go for it and not only didn't they go for it the USA/RUSSIA/EU always threatened Turkiye not to intervene. Because the "euro-origin" plan is balkanisation of sryia, the plan is not to make Turkiye bigger and stronger by bringing Syria under her wings.
In the event that Turkiye can't stop the balkanisation of Syria, the next option was critically to bring as much of Syria towards Turkiye as possible. Whether Turkiye or Syria like it or not, their survival and their long term security has become intertwined. Without a strong and secure Turkiye, Syria is vulnerable and if Syria is vulnerable Turkiye's southern borders become vulnerable.
geopolitically speaking until Turkiye is able to field her own airforce without foreign dependency some things in the short term will have to be swallowed in order to secure the long term win. Concessions by the syrian government will have to be made, thats the nature of one side having an endless supply F35's and the other side having an airforce dependent on the USA.
If Turkiye had no rapidly expanding defence industry i would conclude the next 20 years would be really bad for the region. But as long as the Turkish defence industry moves forward, as it gets stronger the region will become more secure.
Khorasan Black Flags
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Iranians and Russians didn't let
In addition american base got missiled and 180 americans developed brain damages
Iran is the only country that has attacked America for 2 times
shapurzolaktaf
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This is done on purpose, to humiliate him and put him in his place. He's trapped and became a puppet. For him it will be very difficult/unlikely to escape from this situation.
Assyrian209
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What are you talking about.
He has been honored with a meeting with the President himself, meet the Syrian disaporas as well.
They gave him the red carpet treatment and first Syrian president to visit the US in 80 years.
He is conslidating power
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