Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[UKBengali]

It means you don't mind seeing Israel reign supreme over your dislike of Assad. That's what that means.

Unfortunately too many people do not understand that to support Hezbollah means you must support Assad staying power.

That is not the same as supporting Assad personally.

No Assad and Hezbollah will almost certainly become extinct as a military resistance organisation.

 

[tower9]

Stop playing games. You're trying to conflate this struggle in Syria with that of Palestine. And you're going off about 'Sunni Arabs' for betraying Hezbollah. Hezbollah is not under attack by any Sunni Arabs and is doing just fine. So what again, were you talking about ? Are you mad at events in Syria and venting ? Because you're not making sense. Don't try to get personal to enforce whatever garbage sectarian narrative you have.

I never said Hezbollah is being attacked by Sunni Arabs. I said that many Sunni Arabs have cheered Hezbollah getting bombed by Israel, which is a fact.

It is also a fact that Hezbollah has sacrificed a lot helping Gaza. If Assad falls, Hezbollah will also fall. There is no doubt about that. And guess who will be the greatest beneficiary? That's right, Israel.

So if you're supporting the Syrian rebels and then months from now, all of West Bank is getting genocided, I do not want to see you crying and whining about how Israel is murdering your people.

 

[clutch]

It means you don't mind seeing Israel reign supreme over your dislike of Assad. That's what that means.

Not at all. Read all my posts.

I just think Syria is in flux with no clear signs of the "good guys". It's a mess. A fithna. The poor common people of Syria are going to suffer.

 

[clutch]

I don't care about Assad. I don't like him or dislike him. Obviously I know he is a dictator and has made any enemies.

For me, the greatest evil is Israel. Anything that helps Israel is an outcome I do not want. That is why I support Iran, Hezbollah and the Houthis. I don't see how anybody who empathizes with the Gazans can be cheering the Syrian rebels. Their victory only helps Israel.

I do agree. Assad versus Israel... Israel is hands down the mother of all evil.

But picking Assad over the Syrian people who have been oppressed... Isn't the answer either.

 

[The SC]

Urgent | Israeli Army Radio: Israel and the United States have indications of a certain collapse of the Syrian army's defense lines

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[tower9]

I do agree. Assad versus Israel... Israel is hands down the mother of all evil.

But picking Assad over the Syrian people who have been oppressed... Isn't the answer either.

The world isn't perfect. I want any faction helping Israel defeated. Then I want Assad to step down. But again, in an imperfect world, we have to prioritize. The priority is to hurt Israel's interests, and to do that, Assad needs to stay to keep the lifeline to Hezbollah alive.

 

[clutch]

Urgent | Israeli Army Radio: Israel and the United States have indications of a certain collapse of the Syrian army's defense lines

@AJABreaking

Israel wants a stalemate in Syria with no clear victor. That works in their favor.

 

[battalion25]

That's why I have lost all respect for these Sunni Arabs. Hezbollah paid the biggest price with their entire leadership murdered and having lost thousands of soldiers and towns/villages completely destroyed. And then you have Sunnis who have cheered on the deaths of Hezbollah, who were courageous enough to fight for Gaza WHEN THEY DID NOT NEED TO.

These Sunni Arabs are snakes and the lowest of the low. To think they have the nerve to look down on South Asian Muslims, Southeast Asian Muslims, African Muslims, etc is mind boggling. They are the lowest tier of humans on earth. Zero honor. Zero intelligence. Zero virtue.

It is no wonder the Palestinians are in the situation that they are. If they weren't occupied by Israel, they'd probably betray their own brothers too.

This is entirely falsehood.

Everybody supported Gaza but there is one thing you need to know Hamas was told to attack Israel which was absurd without plans or anything. Nobody has backstepped Hezbollah or Iran in that matter. What happened is that the Rebels wanted to go on the offense against Assad for a 1 year and actully paused their offensive for a year because the Gaza war started out of nowhere.

The Syrian rebels have a beef with Assad that is entirely local for them and can´t be ignored as he refused to talk that is on him. They waited until ceasefire in Lebanon before striking.

Also about Sunni Muslims Wallahi brother if you read history you will understand who expanded Islam. Who do you think conquered half of the known world? It was Sunni muslims and protected the Shia and gave them security and what did they pay us back with?

When the Mongol attacked it was Shia who guided them into the city of Baghdad and when the Crusaders first took over in Jerusalem 1099 guess who invited them? the Shia ofcourse and they thought that they were gonna share Jerusalem and they were like yeah you did good to the crusader now lets share Jerusalem and they were like yeah how about no. They were betrayed.

You will not find one Shia expansion in the name of Allah except they partook in the great battle of Talikota in the 5 deccan sultanates era who were 5 warring sultanates that eventually allied with each other due to necessity and expanded Islam all the way to southern India which was the 3rd time Muslims conquered tamil nadu areas which is the southernmost of India.

2 of the 5 Deccan Sultanates were Shia and they fought bravely on that day and gave glory to Islam while the remaining 3 were divided into 1 Mahadiva (extinct Sect) and the remaining 2 were Sunnis.

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[UKBengali]

I never said Hezbollah is being attacked by Sunni Arabs. I said that many Sunni Arabs have cheered Hezbollah getting bombed by Israel, which is a fact.

It is also a fact that Hezbollah has sacrificed a lot helping Gaza. If Assad falls, Hezbollah will also fall. There is no doubt about that. And guess who will be the greatest beneficiary? That's right, Israel.

So if you're supporting the Syrian rebels and then months from now, all of West Bank is getting genocided, I do not want to see you crying and whining about how Israel is murdering your people.

I am absolutely flabbergasted at Muslims saying they support the Gazans/Hezbollah and then saying they want Assad to be toppled by the rebels?

No Assad will almost certainly mean no Hezbollah and the final subjugation of the Gazans by expulsion and completion of genocide.

I sometimes wonder whether they even realise the contradiction in their two statements or somehow their mind does not want to link the two contradicroty statements.

It is easy to blame Muslim leaders for the state of the Muslims in ME and even further afield, but just looking at some of the comments here shows the mindset is also prevalent in "normal' Muslims as well.

 

[Falcon29]

It's really quite simple. The only ones resisting Israel in the region are Iran, Hezbollah, Houthis. If Assad falls, the lifeline to Hezbollah collapses

No that's not true. And no it doesn't. I don't care about blind objectives like 'resisting'. This is of the past. The new is putting into activation an actual equation of war that would be followed through with. Hamas did it's part and everybody else hesitated.

Hezbollah declared a support front. For 10 months. It wasn't until Israel went on offensive did it become a war from Hezbollah's perspective. What good is these weapons if we aren't going to employ them towards actual equations of war and not blind 'resistance' which is mostly absent from everyone except Palestinians in Gaza. Up until October 7.

In any case, Hezbollah can still easily get arms. And it will continue to be what it is. But I don't think they'd use them anyways. And certainly not effectively if we are judging from current conflict.

and Israel will secure primacy in its immediate region, destroying both Hamas and Hezbollah.

Hamas was already left alone to face its fate. And it's surviving due to local popular support and sheer determination. Not because Assad or Iran or Hezbollah.

This is what it's all about. Is that the result you want? What is the problem? You can't think past two or three steps?

I didn't say I seek a specific outcome in Syria. I'm neutral but following the news. And you must accept my neutral stance. Don't try enforcing some dogma on me.

 

[The SC]

Israeli Army Radio, citing a military source: The army declares a state of maximum alert near the border with #Syria

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[clutch]

The world isn't perfect. I want any faction helping Israel defeated. Then I want Assad to step down. But again, in an imperfect world, we have to prioritize. The priority is to hurt Israel's interests, and to do that, Assad needs to stay to keep the lifeline to Hezbollah alive.

I understand your position. To be honest I am more confused about Syria than have any preference. On one hand your point of view makes sense. On the other Assad's regime has done so much evil itself that I cannot in good conscience support his stay in power. Unfortunately, the Zionist and their western supporters along with the braindead Gulf Arab regimes including the two-faced Turks are going to turn Syria into a total disaster Armageddon zone.

 

[battalion25]

The world isn't perfect. I want any faction helping Israel defeated. Then I want Assad to step down. But again, in an imperfect world, we have to prioritize. The priority is to hurt Israel's interests, and to do that, Assad needs to stay to keep the lifeline to Hezbollah alive.

In that matter of Israel. They won´t be here past 2036 AD mark my words.

I have said this like 5-6 years ago and people didn´t believe me when I said Israel can´t win conventional conflict in the modern era and I was proven right in this Hezbollah and Hamas conflict. When you calculate the probability of outcomes in a conventional engagement Israel can´t beat a highly organized non-state actor that is motivated and has anti-tanks and other means to stop the IDF ground forces.

They couldn´t move non-state actors that were motivated and well armed enough to take out their tanks and troops equipment.

Alot of people may get deluded by the retard bombardment but as a military analyst we only take interest in the conventional side of battle because that is how battles are decided and realities change.

Israel is not here because it is powerful it has US backing for the time being but everyone who is smart realize that once the opportunity opens they will be gone in the blink of an eye.

They don´t have manpower against any legitimate state actor incursion. Israel is an Island and fate is sealed and Hamas didn´t need to launch that attack it was unnecessary but rather they should have waited it and stayed patient

 

[The SC]

Secretary General of Hezbollah: Takfiri groups were tools of Israel and America

Hezbollah Secretary General: The aggression against #Syria is sponsored by America and Israel

Hezbollah Secretary-General: We are facing a dangerous Israeli expansionist project, and I call on you to support the resistance in confronting Israel

Secretary General of Hezbollah: Takfiri groups want to move #Syria from a position of resistance to a position that serves the Israeli enemy

Hezbollah Secretary General: We will be in #Hezbollah alongside #Syria to thwart this aggression

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[RedBeard]

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