Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[ChineseTiger1986]

My friend, I have heard this story of the US and West leaving the Arab world and West Asia for almost 2 decades now. This has never occurred. Likely it will never occur even if their most beloved ally Israel did not exist in the first place. You know why? Due to simple geography. We share the biggest border (Mediterranean Sea) with Europe next door. There has been close relations/rivalries/contacts since recorded history began. Will only increase given the future demographics. Not to mention the strategic importance of the area, the natural riches etc.

I don't believe that it will ever occur. If it does it will mean that the US/West dominance has come to an end and their successor (s) would want to replace them and their role in the region. At least for the foreseeable future.

As for US-China relations, unlike the US, I don't think (history shows this as does the Chinese psyche) that China wants to replace the US in terms of political and military influence/interference across the world. Mostly China cares about economics and safeguarding its own country and spheres of influence.

Outside of Taiwan I don't see any reason for the US and China to be enemies. You are also each other's main trade partners.

A China-USA conflict would impact the entire world and likely start WW3. It is bad news for everyone involved.

And unlike Russia, China is much, much more a direct equal than Russia is, nukes excluded.

Everything is different now, and China is no longer interested to do business with the US, since the cost is bigger than gain. Deglobalizaiton is inevitable, and everybody should buckle for the incoming WWIII.

China is armed to the teeth with HQ-19 or even more advanced midcourse interception systems that can intercept the hypersonic missile with the speed of Mach 30.

China unveils HQ-19 missile to rival THAAD with advanced ABM capabilities

The HQ-19, a new surface-to-air missile system developed by China, is designed to intercept ballistic missile threats within and beyond the atmosphere.

interestingengineering.com

Having couple of thousand nukes is a piece of cake for China, but you need to possess a strong shield that can completely neutralize your enemy's missiles.

This time is the real WWIII, very different from the previous WWII and Cold War.

 

[_Arabia_]

Its already been debunked.

Bro, people need to stop randomly posting people making BS up, This Sulaiman guy, who is he? this dude is a nobody, is he a journalist? is someone reporting to him from the ground?

hamas was literally kicked out of Syria by Assad. There were Al Qassam fighters locked up in that prison.

Obvious nonsense. Al-Julani literally faught against the American occupiers in Iraq and in numerous battles, including in Fallujah. He has likely personally killed several US troops and been responsible for even more. Something that no other Muslim leader can say. While the likes of Khamenei and others were making hour long speeches, this guy was actually on the ground doing the fighting and not talking.

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This guy is the real deal.

 

[SteppeWolff]

He's speaking Urdu with a Pashtun accent, meaning that he's from the northwest areas of Pakistan.

Nope. 100% from Punjab and from his accent, central Punjab.

 

[Shawnee]

Obvious nonsense. Al-Julani literally faught against the American occupiers in Iraq and in numerous battles, including in Fallujah. He has likely personally killed several US troops and been responsible for even more. Something that no other Muslim leader can say. While the likes of Khamenei and others were making hour long speeches, this guy was actually on the ground doing the fighting and not talking.

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This guy is the real deal.

Man, you are not an average Arabian.

No Saudi, no Emirati talks like you.

Emiratis are livid at Syria:

Gulf monarchies scramble in Syria as ghosts of the Arab Spring return

UAE 'livid' as US backchannels to Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham through Turkey while Egypt and others urge US caution on accepting group

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[hyperman]

Sorry, 'we' are Pakistani.........here.....

This is a Pakistani forum.

Not Al-Qaeda/ HTS/ Al-Nusra forum being bought n paid for by the CIA, if that's what you were thinking?

Sorry but the vast majority of Pakistanis from what i can see are supportive of the Syrian opposition. I have seen any Pro Assad from them or any pro Assad politicians.

In the UK, I saw quite a bit of Pakistanis supporting the Syrian opposition, didn't see any supporting Assad, in my entire observation of this whole affair, the only people that seem hostile to the Syrian opposition are those in the Iranian sphere. Even the mainstream "Gora" News European News Channels are not as hostile. So I'm not sure where this is all coming from. lol

 

[hyperman]

Man, you are not an average Arabian.

No Saudi, no Emirati talks like you.

Emiratis are livid at Syria:

Gulf monarchies scramble in Syria as ghosts of the Arab Spring return

UAE 'livid' as US backchannels to Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham through Turkey while Egypt and others urge US caution on accepting group

www.middleeasteye.net

Emirati govt(Bin Zayed) and Emirati bbl are very different habibi. lol

As a general Rule, in this conflict Sunnis anywhere in any country have been Supportive more of the Syrian Opposition than Assad. People assumed atleast the Palestinians might be the outlier given some matters regarding realpolitik interests, and while Palestinians aren't hostile to Iran and they appreciate Hezbollah for its support, even they are generally Sympathetic to the Syrian Opposition.

The only ones I've seen hostility from are those in the Iranian Socioreligious Sphere with things regarding Assad and the Opposition.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Man, you are not an average Arabian.

No Saudi, no Emirati talks like you.

Emiratis are livid at Syria:

Gulf monarchies scramble in Syria as ghosts of the Arab Spring return

UAE 'livid' as US backchannels to Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham through Turkey while Egypt and others urge US caution on accepting group

www.middleeasteye.net

Indeed. He's probably a South Asian who lives in KSA. Maybe even was born there. But deffo not an Arab.

 

[Tamerlane]

Nope. 100% from Punjab and from his accent, central Punjab.

Pashtun, Pashtun, Pashtun. Ask anyone.

 

[_Arabia_]

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Sorry but the vast majority of Pakistanis from what i can see are supportive of the Syrian opposition. I have seen any Pro Assad from them or any pro Assad politicians.

In the UK, I saw quite a bit of Pakistanis supporting the Syrian opposition, didn't see any supporting Assad, in my entire observe of this whole affair, the only people that seem hostile to the Syrian opposition are those in the Iranian sphere. Even the mainstream "Gora" News European News Channels are not as hostile. So I'm not sure where this is all coming from. lol

Bro, you are engaging with trolls whose only argument is "you are not x or y" "you don't talk like " x or y" as if those guys know anything at all or even can count to 10 in Arabic. One of them was literally saying that most Saudi Arabians were pro-Al-Assad regime because, well, he visited for some Arab League summits.

It is just Iranian regime supporters who can't comprehend that their entire regional project came crashing down within less than 2 weeks.

I would understand if I was talking with some ideological Arab or Syrian Ba'athists, heck even Nusayris aligned to the regime that were enjoying most of the benefits of that regime.

The average Muslim from what I have seen for the past 13 yeas has nothing but contempt for the Al-Assad regime and what they have done to the Syrian people and Syria. Even most of his supporters (former I imagine) called him a coward who fled.

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Everything is different now, and China is no longer interested to do business with the US, since the cost is bigger than gain. Deglobalizaiton is inevitable, and everybody should buckle for the incoming WWIII.

China is armed to the teeth with HQ-19 or even more advanced midcourse interception systems that can intercept the hypersonic missile with the speed of Mach 30.

China unveils HQ-19 missile to rival THAAD with advanced ABM capabilities

The HQ-19, a new surface-to-air missile system developed by China, is designed to intercept ballistic missile threats within and beyond the atmosphere.

interestingengineering.com

Having couple of thousand nukes is a piece of cake for China, but you need to possess a strong shield that can completely neutralize your enemy's missiles.

This time is the real WWIII, very different from the previous WWII and Cold War.

I am not denying any of that. However this has no relation to whether the US/West would stop interfering in the Arab world/West Asia or stop trying to have a presence. Israel alone would ensure that.

As for WW3, if nukes start flying around, nobody would be able to tell the story afterwards.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Pashtun, Pashtun, Pashtun. Ask anyone.

Bro its very easy to judge accents when u live here. That guy had a very Central Punjab style of Urdu. I can be wrong but am pretty sure.

 

[Tamerlane]

Bro its very easy to judge accents when u live here. That guy had a very Central Punjab style of Urdu. I can be wrong but am pretty sure.

Let’s ask the beoble of Bakistan. Brothers, which regional accent does this guy have?

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[hyperman]

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Bro, you are engaging with trolls whose only argument is "you are not x or y" "you don't talk like " x or y" as if those guys know anything at all or even can count to 10 in Arabic. One of them was literally saying that most Saudi Arabians were pro-Al-Assad regime because, well, he visited for some Arab League summits.

It is just Iranian regime supporters who can't comprehend that their entire regional project came crashing down within less than 2 weeks.

I would understand if I was talking with some ideological Arab or Syrian Ba'athists, heck even Nusayris aligned to the regime that were enjoying most of the benefits of that regime.

The average Muslim from what I have seen for the past 13 yeas has nothing but contempt for the Al-Assad regime and what they have done to the Syrian people and Syria. Even most of his supporters (former I imagine) called him a coward who fled.

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I am not denying any of that. However this has no relation to whether the US/West would stop interfering in the Arab world/West Asia or stop trying to have a presence. Israel alone would ensure that.

As for WW3, if nukes start flying around, nobody would be able to tell the story afterwards.

I'm really annoyed with these people, they hide behind cover, they try to act like they are completely motivated selflessly by Palestine and then accuse everyone else who disagrees with them, calling them zionists. When in reality the primary axiom that a bunch of these guys are functioning from is Iran and its socioreligious sphere.

If they were more honest and say, yes, I'm Shia or Im in the Iranian camp, and you guys fked up Iranian interests and created setbacks for Iranian foreign policy, atleast I would respect that, but nooooo, its OMG YOU ZIONISTS, ONLY I CAR ABOUT PALESTINE, HOW DARE YOU BETRAY PALESTINE. like bro, chill out, and just be honest. cut the BS. lol

 

[SteppeWolff]

Let’s ask the beoble of Bakistan. Brothers, which regional accent does this guy have?

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Cant see his complete face but doesn't look like a Pashtun too. Anw its sad to see Pakistanis killing each other in Syria.

 

[hyperman]

Cant see his complete face but doesn't look like a Pashtun too. Anw its sad to see Pakistanis killing each other in Syria.

If you are pakistani you should be able to tell by accents, no? Shouldn't have to see face to observe regional dialects.

 

[Tamerlane]

Cant see his complete face but doesn't look like a Pashtun too. Anw its sad to see Pakistanis killing each other in Syria.

There are many Hadiths according to which Syria is the place to go during the End Times. That’s what attracts both Sunnis and Shias and jihadi types from around the world to Syria.

The enemies of Islam also know the same Hadiths and they try to exploit them by creating fake jihadi groups like ISIS etc. and get them to chop heads and create chaos, disunity and hatred of resistance among Muslims. They’ve succeeded to a large degree in making the word ‘jihad’ into something negative. Any Muslim soldier is called a jihadi to make them look like one of the bad guys.

Meanwhile, in the West they think of their soldiers as heroes.