Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[shapurzolaktaf]

I have seen alot of folks bootyshaking for Israel but the matter of the truth is Israel doesn´t seek an all out war with Syria in fact nobody does which is an unrealistic thing to root for. Jewish aren´t stupid enough to be used as cannon fodders that job goes to you..

Besides all the Iranian does is put their proxies at danger and that is without helping them.

Syria will not fight anyone until it has cleansed your elements not only from Syria but elsewhere as well as long as you desire Syria they will desire you in return.

Besides Syria is not a cursed land but blessed land where the wings of the angels rest according to sahih hadith. This is where Mushkrin like the rafiida was cleansed from hence it is indeed a blessed land.

You will be cleansed from everywhere your ugly head rises from..

Do you take us for fools your so-called axis revolution was only fighting against other muslims but you have been trashed everywhere and the so-called revolution completely died. It reminds me of that Ismaili fatimid revolution trying to shiaize Islam which failed just similar to this one it fizziled out after few defeats here and there alltogether and then they turned into Assinasins after they were conventionally eliminated everywhere and trying to assinanate Salah-uddin Ayyub himself everyday while he was busy liberating Jerusalem because he whopped them in Egypt first and then Iraq

We heard this argument 100 times from sunni muzlims; we'll have to finish all shia elements before we can fight israel.

izrael doesnt need an all out war against syria, they can just occupy strategic positions as they do now.

Truth is opposite, sunni turks and most of sunni arabs recognize Israel and have trade and diplomatic relations with Israel. I mention Turkey, Bahrain, U.A.E., Morocco as examples and the others are just neutral.

I mean Even Ireland, so far away, non-muzlim is more honourable. When sunni palestinians say we're ashamed to be named arabs (we're palestinians!), they're not refering to Iran or shias no?

Syria is not really relevant or desired, it's handy as a bridge only to deliver arms to hezbollah, now arms should be smuggled other ways because like Jordanian sunni muzlims, Syrian sunni muzlims will destroy any weapon which is going to be used against Israel.

These syria-akbar-propaganda hadiths were told before sunni umayads deceived mohammad and killed his grandchildren. He would surely declare war on them if he knew, hence today syria is cursed and destroyed way beyond reparation and recognition, else it would be way more better protected (if according to these fake hadiths, allah would care about syria).

Iran and Yemen, through Iranian missles, sent millions of Israelis into underground shelters, while sunni muzlims deliver intelligence, diplomatic, economic relations to Israel and cry about shia project.

 

[hyperman]

All this hadiths and words were from before the time that sunni umayyads slaughtered grandchildren of Mohammad no?

If he knew that these close/allied muzlims are just deceiving him and plotting to kill his grandchildren, I wonder what he would think/do/say no?

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."

Yeah congratulations on quoting Hadiths out of Context, That hadith is a reference to the Mongols, not towards Muslims regardless of ethnic origins. You can look at the commentary of Imam Nawawi, Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani and many others refuting the idea that it applies to Muslim Turks.

Also Why be so selective in quoting hadiths, there are hadiths like this as well.

قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ:
"لَتُفْتَحَنَّ الْقُسْطَنْطِينِيَّةُ، فَلَنِعْمَ الْأَمِيرُ أَمِيرُهَا، وَلَنِعْمَ الْجَيْشُ ذَلِكَ الْجَيْشُ"

The Prophet ﷺ said:
"You will certainly conquer Constantinople. What a wonderful commander will her commander be, and what a wonderful army that army will be!"

— Musnad Ahmad (23462)

This is a reference to Hafiz Al Quran Fatih Sultan Muhammad, the Conquerer of Istanbul.

 

[battalion25]

We heard this argument 100 times from sunni muzlims; we'll have to finish all shia elements before we can fight israel. Israel doesnt need an all out war against Syria, they can occupy strategic positions.

Truth is opposite, Sunni Turks and most of sunni arabs recognize Israel and have trade and diplomatic relations with Israel. I mention Turkey, Bahrain, U.A.E., Morocco as examples and the others are just neutral.

I mean Even Ireland, so far away, non-muzlim is more honourable. When sunni palestinians say we're ashamed to be named arabs (we're palestinians!), they're not refering to Iran or shias no?

Syria is not much relevant or desired, it's handy as a bridge only to deliver arms to hezbollah, now it should be smuggled other ways because like Jordan sunni muzlims, Syrian sunni muzlims will destroy any arm which is going to be used against Israel.

These syria propaganda hadiths were told before sunni umayads deceived mohammad and killed his grandchildren. He would surely declare war on them if he knew, hence today syria is cursed and destroyed way beyond reparation, else it would be way more better protected (if according to these fake hadiths, allah would care about syria).

Show me where Iran actully fought anyone? Outside of fighting HTS and other Syrian rebels? Who did they actully fight? Israel? No the US? No? Then did they support the US war on terror? The answer is yes? You started the first bullet on them and then you come here trying to lecture people from what is right and wrong?

Tell me just about on single war Shia has fought to expand ISlam during the expansion era just one war? You see half of the known world was taken by Muslims but Shia has not contributed even one inch? So what are you talking about.

Where were they? Oh yeah they were watering the shrines

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Show me where Iran actully fought anyone? Outside of fighting HTS and other Syrian rebels? Who did they actully fight? Israel? No the US? No? Then did they support the US war on terror? The answer is yes? You started the first bullet on them and then you come here trying to lecture people from what is right and wrong?

Tell me just about on single war Shia has fought to expand ISlam during the expansion era just one war? You see half of the known world was taken by Muslims but Shia has not contributed even one inch? So what are you talking about.

Where were they? Oh yeah they were watering the shrines

Shia were being butchered by umayads and abbasids muzlims left and right (who actively hunted and killed relatives of mohammd), like how ISIS chased minorities and beheaded them once captured.

About Iran-US conflicts and clashes:

• 1979–1981: Iran Hostage Crisis
• April 24–25, 1980: Operation Eagle Claw
• October 23, 1983: Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing
• 1987–1988: Operation Earnest Will
• 14 April 1988: USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) hit by Iranian mine: 10 U.S. sailors seriously injured, some with severe burns and broken bones.
• April 1988: Operation Praying Mantis: 2 U.S. Navy personnel killed, US helicopter downed.
• 2003–2011: Iraq War – Iranian backed Attacks; Hundreds of Americans killed via Explosively Formed Penetrators (EFPs) linked to Iran.
• Jan 2016: U.S. Sailors Detained
• June 2019: Iran Shoots Down U.S. Drone (RQ-4A Global Hawk)
• December 2019: Iran allies Kataib Hezbollah Rocket Attack Kills U.S. Contractor
• January 2020: U.S. Kills Qasem Soleimani, Iran retaliated with missile strikes on U.S. bases in Iraq (no fatalities, but traumatic brain injuries).

United States Military Deaths Estimated Total: ~700–750
Iranian Military Deaths Estimated Total: ~150–300

About Israel-Iran, everyone knows only few Palestinian sunni group out of billion sunnis fight Israel: Hamas, Islamic Jihad. They have their weapons and support from Iran.

Facts: Iran fired missiles at Israel: (TP 1 & 2), Yemen fired missiles, Hezbollah fired missiles, Iraqi Shias fired missiles against Israel. All of them hit Israel and caused damages, deaths, wounded among enemy soldiers.

Question: does turkey or saudi arabia or other sunni countries like morocco or jordania even transfer 1 bullet to palestinians and admitting it openly? If these super-muzlim countries and populations do that (and we witness it) we'll help and praise them. But before that they need to stop supporting izrael by trade, diplomacy, logistics, intelligence.

 

[Watandar]

I have seen alot of folks bootyshaking for Israel but the matter of the truth is Israel doesn´t seek an all out war with Syria in fact nobody does which is an unrealistic thing to root for. Jewish aren´t stupid enough to be used as cannon fodders that job goes to you..

Besides all the Iranian does is put their proxies at danger and that is without helping them.

Syria will not fight anyone until it has cleansed your elements not only from Syria but elsewhere as well as long as you desire Syria they will desire you in return.

Besides Syria is not a cursed land but blessed land where the wings of the angels rest according to sahih hadith. This is where Mushkrin like the rafiida was cleansed from hence it is indeed a blessed land.

You will be cleansed from everywhere your ugly head rises from..

Do you take us for fools your so-called axis revolution was only fighting against other muslims but you have been trashed everywhere and the so-called revolution completely died. It reminds me of that Ismaili fatimid revolution trying to shiaize Islam which failed just similar to this one it fizziled out after few defeats here and there alltogether and then they turned into Assinasins after they were conventionally eliminated everywhere and trying to assinanate Salah-uddin Ayyub himself everyday while he was busy liberating Jerusalem because he whopped them in Egypt first and then Iraq

Israel is committing genocide right now in Gaza, ethnic cleansing in the West Bank, seized and annexed Golan Heights from Syria in 1967 and has seized additional lands in the last six months. Next Israel will begin settlement activity in Syria and is actively seeking a breakaway Druze state.

Smotrich: Fighting won’t end until hundreds of thousands of Gazans leave, Syria partitioned

* * *

www.timesofisrael.com

You seem to have very rose-tinted glasses towards Israel. From your poisonous and sectarian posts, you seem too caught up in anti-Shia hatred to think properly. This is what Israel has planned for Syria :

Greater Israel: an Ongoing Expansion Plan for the Middle East and North Africa – MEPEI

mepei.com

But keep up your idiotic anti-Shia hatred and desires to exterminate them. I dont know how you are even allowed to keep posting on this forum with such bigotry.

 

[Watandar]

Show me where Iran actully fought anyone? Outside of fighting HTS and other Syrian rebels? Who did they actully fight? Israel? No the US? No? Then did they support the US war on terror? The answer is yes? You started the first bullet on them and then you come here trying to lecture people from what is right and wrong?

Tell me just about on single war Shia has fought to expand ISlam during the expansion era just one war? You see half of the known world was taken by Muslims but Shia has not contributed even one inch? So what are you talking about.

Where were they? Oh yeah they were watering the shrines

Am I wasting my time on some 13 year old who has watched too many Wahhabi/Salafi videos ? What kind of a question is "Where has Iran fought Israel and the US" ? Lets get you started on a 46 year journey starting in 1979 :

https://www.reuters.com/world/irans-long-rivalry-with-united-states-2025-04-01/

With regards to your slander against Shia, let me inform you that the Shia do not seek to spread Islam through war, but through Dawah, patience and role-modeling, as it is meant to be spread. The religion that spread through the sword the most in this world is Christianity, as all of the New World and Africa can attest.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Am I wasting my time on some 13 year old who has watched too many Wahhabi/Salafi videos ? What kind of a question is "Where has Iran fought Israel and the US" ? Lets get you started on a 46 year journey starting in 1979 :

https://www.reuters.com/world/irans-long-rivalry-with-united-states-2025-04-01/

With regards to your slander against Shia, let me inform you that the Shia do not seek to spread Islam through war, but through Dawah, patience and role-modeling, as it is meant to be spread. The religion that spread through the sword the most in this world is Christianity, as all of the New World and Africa can attest.

The Wahhabi doesn't understand anything you said. He's too busy touching himself at the thought of blowing up Shia mosques and Sunni Bazaars. These Wahhabis were taken care of quite beautifully in Iraq by the U.S. Torture and bombing them day and night. I supported bombing these as*holes in Syria and Iraq. The Russian AF took care of them quite efficiently.

 

[battalion25]

Shia were being butchered by umayads and abbasids muzlims left and right (who actively hunted and killed relatives of mohammd), like how ISIS chased minorities and beheaded them once captured.

About Iran-US conflicts and clashes:

• 1979–1981: Iran Hostage Crisis
• April 24–25, 1980: Operation Eagle Claw
• October 23, 1983: Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing
• 1987–1988: Operation Earnest Will
• 14 April 1988: USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) hit by Iranian mine: 10 U.S. sailors seriously injured, some with severe burns and broken bones.
• April 1988: Operation Praying Mantis: 2 U.S. Navy personnel killed, US helicopter downed.
• 2003–2011: Iraq War – Iranian backed Attacks; Hundreds of Americans killed via Explosively Formed Penetrators (EFPs) linked to Iran.
• Jan 2016: U.S. Sailors Detained
• June 2019: Iran Shoots Down U.S. Drone (RQ-4A Global Hawk)
• December 2019: Iran allies Kataib Hezbollah Rocket Attack Kills U.S. Contractor
• January 2020: U.S. Kills Qasem Soleimani, Iran retaliated with missile strikes on U.S. bases in Iraq (no fatalities, but traumatic brain injuries).

United States Military Deaths Estimated Total: ~700–750
Iranian Military Deaths Estimated Total: ~150–300

About Israel-Iran, everyone knows only few Palestinian sunni group out of billion sunnis fight Israel: Hamas, Islamic Jihad. They have their weapons and support from Iran.

Facts: Iran fired missiles at Israel: (TP 1 & 2), Yemen fired missiles, Hezbollah fired missiles, Iraqi Shias fired missiles against Israel. All of them hit Israel and caused damages, deaths, wounded among enemy soldiers.

Question: does turkey or saudi arabia or other sunni countries like morocco or jordania even transfer 1 bullet to palestinians and admitting it openly? If these super-muzlim countries and populations do that (and we witness it) we'll help and praise them. But before that they need to stop supporting izrael by trade, diplomacy, logistics, intelligence.

Hahahaha. What is this mambo-Jambo list!

The Shia Iraqi insurgency surrendered rhis is a well known fact and in fact were pro-US.

Have you ever engaged in conflict the answer is no! What is this launching some irrelevent missiles at empty spaces ain´t war.

Get the fuk outta here

 

[battalion25]

Am I wasting my time on some 13 year old who has watched too many Wahhabi/Salafi videos ? What kind of a question is "Where has Iran fought Israel and the US" ? Lets get you started on a 46 year journey starting in 1979 :

https://www.reuters.com/world/irans-long-rivalry-with-united-states-2025-04-01/

With regards to your slander against Shia, let me inform you that the Shia do not seek to spread Islam through war, but through Dawah, patience and role-modeling, as it is meant to be spread. The religion that spread through the sword the most in this world is Christianity, as all of the New World and Africa can attest.

Which front? Do you mean a non-existent frontline.. Stop hallucinating stuff out of arse.

You have no Dawah whatsoever but you have been living on social benefits since the last 1400 yrs and protected trash under the umbrella of Islam you knew how to use that card while Watering shrines and stuff visiting graves and stuff useless bunch.

You hate death because you commit alot of bid´ah. Death is ever hateful to you I know this. All you do is curse curse but nobody hears these prayers my mann. Wallahi you folks are useless I won´t even bring you to the frontline as cannon fodders lest you get in my way. If the heart is not clear and clouded it is a coward heart. Stay home among the women and curse the believers that is all you are good for in this life.

You have fought on no fronts.. Why do you keep coming with Israel that is a different entity we talking about you know lol at qouting Smotrich do you think he is Shia also hahaha what an irrelevant stuff. Gazans are men they will fight their war and they will be victorious at the end they don´t need anyone but Allah but it was Iran who abandoned not the Sunnah like you love to blame.

They (Hamas) were promised that the north will attack also but they were betrayed? who betrayed them? their own Shia sponsors but no matter victory and defeat is from Allah.

 

[battalion25]

The Wahhabi doesn't understand anything you said. He's too busy touching himself at the thought of blowing up Shia mosques and Sunni Bazaars. These Wahhabis were taken care of quite beautifully in Iraq by the U.S. Torture and bombing them day and night. I supported bombing these as*holes in Syria and Iraq. The Russian AF took care of them quite efficiently.

Now this is what I call going over the top. Shia are protected individuals within Islam but they shouldn´t step out of line this is just me telling them whats up and no need to go full retarded here.

Nobody is here to kill you for watering shrines and stuff like planting flowers.. Relax

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Hahahaha. What is this mambo-Jambo list!

The Shia Iraqi insurgency surrendered and in fact were pro-US.

Have you ever engaged in conflict the answer is no! What is this launching some irrelevent missiles at empty spaces ain´t war.

Get the fuk outta here

I gave you a list of conflicts, including dates and number of deaths, add 8 years we fought US and Soviet anr sunni-arab backed Saddam.
If you want to act like a child then don't waste our time here.
You sunnis show us how to back Gaza, we'll follow, you make fun of missiles fired at Israel, then show us how you fight Israel?

We see only that from Morocco to Indonesia, Muzlim sunnis not even closed Israeli embassies, let alone firing missiles at their (military) airports!

 

[battalion25]

I gave you a list of conflicts, including dates and number of deaths, add 8 years we fought US and Soviet anr sunni-arab backed Saddam.
If you want to act like a child then don't waste our time here.

Bahahaah! You fought 8 years against Saddam Hussein´s Iraq not USA or Soviet whatsoever..

Stop the delusions. Go into encyclopedia world history it is written as IRAQI-Iranian war! Just because different parties may support different actors doesn´t mean they are party to the conflict.

It is like saying US is fighting Russia in Ukraine or China is fighting Ukraine. It is clearly a Russo-Ukrainian conflict despite different actors backing both sides.

Gaza is fighting Israel and they can handle this themselves they don´t need any help. No need to insert US in to this war. They are your allies of all ppl why you not there why even ask the Sunnis of anything? It is redundant.. This is your axis of so-called resistance!

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Bahahaah! You fought 8 years against Saddam Hussein´s Iraq not USA or Soviet whatsoever..

Stop the delusions. Go into encyclopedia world history it is written as IRAQI-Iranian war! Just because different parties may support different actors doesn´t mean they are party to the conflict.

It is like saying US is fighting Russia in Ukraine or China is fighting Ukraine. It is clearly a Russo-Ukrainian conflict despite different actors backing both sides

You asked show me where Iran actually fought anyone? Outside of fighting HTS and other Syrian rebels?

Among the list of direct clashes against US forces, which lead to casuaties among both Iranian and US military, we also fought US-Soviet backed Saddam. A part of the list of conflicts and dates which I showed you, is related to that war because their backing of saddam slowly cause direct conflict between US and Iranian forces, and also US forces and Iranian allies in Lebanon, who ousted US from Lebanon by a decisive attack (Marine Barracks Bombing at Beirut, Lebanon).

 

[battalion25]

You asked show me where Iran actually fought anyone? Outside of fighting HTS and other Syrian rebels?

Among the list of direct clashes against US forces, which lead to casuaties among both Iranian and US military, we also fought US-Soviet backed Saddam. A part of the list of conflicts and dates which I showed you, is related to that war because their backing of saddam slowly cause direct conflict between US and Iranian forces, and also US forces and Iranian allies in Lebanon, who ousted US from Lebanon by a decisive attack (Marine Barracks Bombing at Beirut, Lebanon).

Come on Bro!
We can go all day these aren´t wars with the US or soviet union but rather fighting other elements backed by them as per encyclopedia that is not listed. Saddam and his elements aren´t Americans period.

You have never fought the US in direct military conflict nor the Soviets or Russia. Only during the Shah against Russia.

The US only fought Afghanistan, Vietnam, Somalia, Saddam´s Iraq, ISIS, and the Serbs via NATO excluding the World war 2... Oh Yeah I forgot to mention the US fought Nicaragua aka it was against a cartel named Manuel Noriega.

Russia fought Ukraine, Chechen wars, Syrian Rebels, Georgia and Afghanistan.

You can say the Americans fought Al Qaeda but it was a very fictional warfare due to Al-Qaeda´s existence being questionable like ghosts you hear about them but you never see them.. We have honestly never seen them hence technically I think AQ is fantasy and not real

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Come on Bro!
We can go all day these aren´t wars with the US or soviet union but rather fighting other elements backed by them as per encyclopedia that is not listed. Saddam and his elements aren´t Americans period.

You have never fought the US in direct military conflict nor the Soviets or Russia. Only during the Shah against Russia.

The US only fought Afghanistan, Vietnam, Somalia, Saddam´s Iraq, ISIS, and the Serbs via NATO excluding the World war 2... Oh Yeah I forgot to mention the US fought Nicaragua aka it was against a cartel named Manuel Noriega.

Russia fought Ukraine, Chechen wars and Afghanistan.

You can say the Americans fought Al Qaeda but it was a very fictional warfare due to Al-Qaeda´s existence being questionable like ghosts you hear about them but you never see them.. We have honestly never seen them hence technically I think AQ is fantasy and not real

US didnt (dare to) invade us like they did in Vietnam or Afghanistan or Iraq, so in that sense we had no direct war (yet). But their Drones which came near Iran were shot down, other one hacked and landed. Their marines entered our waters, we arrested them, and we had some direct clashes and indirect ones (by our allies).

Overall the Americans felt what we can do to them, they know the price of attacking or trying to invade us. In the 80s they were much more daring because our military was weak and we were in war.
But now, we've a much stronger army and local arms production; this makes them more afraid than in the 80s.