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We have solved ALTAY Tank engine problem with indigenous 1.500 hp diesel Engine and The BATU-powered ALTAY Tank is expected to be ready by the end of 2026


BATU Engine first ignition in 2021 and mass production in 2027 ( just 6 years )

More BATU Engines are in production line
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Turkiye has more experience in turbofan Engine technologies and technical development of the TF-35.000 engine continues since 2021

According to TEI
We will see KAAN flying with indigenous TF-35.000 Engine in 2029-2030 period

and the testing and integration process will be completed in 2032-2035 period
( calculated by adding the delay margin )
 
President ERDOGAN 03.11.2025

"We will add our KAAN Fighter Jet to the inventory of our Air Forces within the timeframe we have determined."


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President ERDOGAN "While we are rapidly putting into action our domestic and national defense projects, we will strengthen our defense cooperation with our European allies on a win-win basis."
 
ASELSAN has developed Radar absorbing materials to reduce RCS for 1.000 times to use on KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet , ANKA-3 flying wing stealth UCAV

1 -- Radar absorbing material ( RAM ) Paint
2 -- Ceramic Radar absorbing material ( RAM )
3 -- Elastomeric Radar absorbing material ( RAM )

ASELSAN has a variety of indigenously developed field proven state of the art Radar absorbing material / Radar absorbing Structure / Freguency selective surface products including Paints , Elastomers , Honeycomb , Solid laminate composites and Ceramics

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official source
https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/RADAR_SIGNATURE_MANAGEMENT_APPLICATIONS_ENG.pdf
 
I’m annoyed at @MMM-E, but honestly, you deserved the same reply he gave you!

We don't need both the technology and the production capacity from the Europeans. Maybe it could’ve been turbofan tech, but that ship sailed long ago. Let’s be clear—those jerks wouldn’t do business with us unless they had no other choice. If the Russian threat vanished tomorrow, they’d go right back to their old arrogant selves, like hitting factory reset.

So, what does Erdoğan mean by “win-win”? Well, look at the deal between Italian company Leonardo and Baykar. Under this agreement, the Kızılelma will be built in Italy—not just assembled, but with many components, including engine parts, produced there. Plus, if the Italians want, they can offer Leonardo avionics on Kızılelma models. This way, we can sell through Leonardo to countries like Germany, France, and even Japan, who, because of their arrogance, won’t buy weapons directly from us. Officially, they’ll be buying from the Italians, not us. :)

In short, the only thing we’ll get from Europe is the €uro—nothing else.
 
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Merzifonlu said:
We don't need both the technology and the production capacity from the Europeans. Maybe it could’ve been turbofan tech, but that ship sailed long ago. Let’s be clear—those jerks wouldn’t do business with us unless they had no other choice. If the Russian threat vanished tomorrow, they’d go right back to their old arrogant selves, like hitting factory reset.
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The EU problems goes beyond aeronautical technological hurdles. (We didn´t accept Turkey in EU but accepted high dubious countries like Hungary or Poland inside) for example. Other stupid decisions have been even more remarkable. Royal Danish Air Force have purchased half of their entire Air force to US and now US president hints to invade Greenland.

Turkey it is just starting to export in high contested areas. I remember how first newly arrived KIAs and Hyundai cars arrived here in EU were insanely criticized, and nowadays their reputation have been even surpassed many european carmakers.

Just work steadily and act wisely. Don´t discard nothing and continue dealing fairly with partners like spaniards and italians. Your country will collect more reputation and therefore credit and relevance inside european airspace technology.

We have tested UK inside eurofighter program, France inside FCAS (A400M and EuroMale), and now we will taste Turkey inside Hurjet. If Spain have worked before with Turkey in CN235 and Anadolu LHD a third program cannot be just a coincidence. And now with Italy also (Italy worked before in T129 and other helicopters). That put nervous the "other side" of EU, don´t pay a sh*t with it.
 
@Flotilla;

The Europeans I refer to as "jerks" aren't the Italians and the Spanish. They're the ones who imposed embargoes on us to slow down our weapons development—the Germans, the French, and all the Scandinavian countries.

And then, feeling the Russian Bear's hot breath on their pink asses, these arrogant jerks are forced to buy ammunition and weapons from us. Despite everything, they choose to buy these weapons through the Italians and the Spanish rather than directly from us.

They fully deserve the title "jerks!"
 
MMM-E said:
We have solved ALTAY Tank engine problem with indigenous 1.500 hp diesel Engine and The BATU-powered ALTAY Tank is expected to be ready by the end of 2026


BATU Engine first ignition in 2021 and mass production in 2027 ( just 6 years )

More BATU Engines are in production line
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Turkiye has more experience in turbofan Engine technologies and technical development of the TF-35.000 engine continues since 2021

According to TEI
We will see KAAN flying with indigenous TF-35.000 Engine in 2029-2030 period

and the testing and integration process will be completed in 2032-2035 period
( calculated by adding the delay margin )
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Really funny that you mention the BATU since developing a replacement engine for the Altay is not exactly a prime example of how to quickly develop a custom solution for an older, established, but proven foreign engine! And developing a tank engine is surely much easier than developing a true fifth-generation turbofan.
 
Deino said:
And developing a tank engine is surely much easier than developing a true fifth-generation turbofan.
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The BATU Power Pack consists of two parts: the engine part and the transmission part. You're right for engine part; it's easier. Also the engine of BATU Power Pack is reportedly almost complete.

But as for the transmission part, hell no! Developing of BATU's transmission part isn't quite as easy. The Koreans didn't succeed on their first try anyway. They claim to have corrected the flaw in their domestically produced transmission, but we'll see.

For me, the first real test will be BATU's domestic transmission, second real test TF-10000 engine. If we achieve that, I'll be a bit more optimistic about the TF35000 engine.
 
They gave the AI pics of an F-35 (notice the bulges!) and the GTU-0, and then churned this out... :D

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Look at the bays, the 'shape' of the fuselage, the horizontal stabilizer mounting configuration, the landing gear arrangement, the EOTS & IRST... that's AI for sure...

If you can't differentiate the real details from the AI-slop on the Kaan; at least look at the Kizilelma and TCG Anadolu for crying out loud... :D
 
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Only a few months until we see the actual thing fly. They promised first quarter of 2026.
 
According to Temel Kotil, a total of eight KAAN prototypes will be produced. It will be interesting to make further improvements to the initial design, which will be completed in April, but the improvements should be further improved in subsequent 7 prototypes.
 
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