TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

[Michael]

And yet, it is a long way to go; the first TF35000 isn't even running, it is not clear yet if of the planned performance will be met without delays (IMO most likely), the timeline up to its planned service entry is simply unrealistic and most of all the true prototype hasn't made its maiden flight!

And on top of all that, there’s always that inflated, exaggerated nationalism—as if Turkey’s survival as a nation depended on it... simply ridiculous.

This video has already shown enough information.

Aluminum alloy frame, hand assembly process, composite material production, surface polishing and painting......

This still presents a significant gap compared to the manufacturing of a true modern fifth-generation fighter jet. However, for staunch nationalists, rational explanations and analyses are meaningless.

 

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Radar cross-section estimates of 5th generation Fighter Jets and their sizes against living beings from smallest to largest:

Tarantula (Spider) ▸ -40 dBsm
F-22 Raptor ▸ -40dBsm
F-35 Lightning II ▸ -23 dBsm
KAAN ▸ -25 dBsm ... -5 dBsm target
Eagle (Bird) ▸ -20 dBsm ... -10 dBsm
J-20 Mighty Dragon ▸ -20 dBsm ... -5 dBsm
SU-57 Felon ▸ -10 dBsm ... 0 dBsm
Human ▸ -5dBsm ... + 5dBsm

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KAAN with stealth design , advanced magnetic coating , S routing Air inlet ducts , Internal weapon Bays and RAM panel layer it could RCS value for X band 10GHz as 0.0030 m2 [ -25dbsqm ]



F-35 uses a Turkish technology

Turkish inventor, engineer and businessman founded Integrated Polymer Industries Inc in the USA which is the sole supplier the special coating material for these two Aircraft, the B-2 and F-35 ...... ( for stealth capabilities )




Turkish engineer and businessman Ergün Kırlıkovalı is the producer of the special coating material that provides stealth capability to American B-2 and F-35

Now, as a Turk's company in USA is the sole supplier for these two aircraft, the B-2 and F-35. We've been the sole supplier for the B-2 for over 30 years, and for the F-35 since 2006, that is, for 19 years

From Idea to the F-35: The Journey of a Turkish Inventor Inspires Young Minds

From Idea to the F-35: The Journey of a Turkish Inventor Inspires Young Minds

yeditepe.edu.tr

Ergün Kırlıkovalı who invented the material that makes F-35s invisible, says: "We are developing a new material for KAAN."

 

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This video has already shown enough information.

Aluminum alloy frame, hand assembly process, composite material production, surface polishing and painting......

This still presents a significant gap compared to the manufacturing of a true modern fifth-generation fighter jet. However, for staunch nationalists, rational explanations and analyses are meaningless.

Chinese can fool only themselves and ignorant fanboys for Chinese low quality products


Turkish Aerospace Industry has high quality production capabilities with the state of the art facilities

TAI has produced even the most complex parts of the F-35s for years with zero error
including center fuselage of the F-35




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Also , TAI produces the most important components for one out of every 2 passenger Plane flying in the world ( Boeing and Airbus )

Airbus A-320 , A330 , A350
Boeing 737 , 747 , 767 , 787

Turkish Aerospace is the single source supplier to Airbus for Sec 18 Panels

official source : https://www.tusas.com/en/products/aerostructures


in 2021 , TAI delivered 300th barrel for Airbus A320 Section 19


Are USA and Europe so foolish as to give Turkiye ( Turkish Aerospace ) a significant share in the production of the world's best Aircraft and Fighter Jet ?

 

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Even Russia can not match the production quality of the KAAN Fighter Jet produced by TAI ( Turkish Aerospace Industry )

zero error

 

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:Deino You can laugh forever , We dont care about Chinese and their butthurt feelings


Not Chinese but Turkish engineer and businessman Ergün Kırlıkovalı is the producer of the special coating material that provides stealth capability to American B-2 and F-35

And He said "We are developing a new material for KAAN."

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ASELSAN has developed Radar absorbing materials to reduce RCS for 1.000 times to use on KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet , ANKA-3 flying wing stealth UCAV

1 -- Radar absorbing material ( RAM ) Paint
2 -- Ceramic Radar absorbing material ( RAM )
3 -- Elastomeric Radar absorbing material ( RAM )

ASELSAN has a variety of indigenously developed field proven state of the art Radar absorbing material / Radar absorbing Structure / Freguency selective surface products including Paints , Elastomers , Honeycomb , Solid laminate composites and Ceramics


official source

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/RADAR_SIGNATURE_MANAGEMENT_APPLICATIONS_ENG.pdf

 

[Deino]

Even Russia can not match the production quality of the KAAN Fighter Jet produced by TAI ( Turkish Aerospace Industry )

zero error
View attachment 202001

A small AI-enhanced image is for you proof that there are no gaps, zero error, the manufacturing quality is better than anything? Man, get a job and a life instead of trashing this thread only with propaganda.

 

[Deino]

:Deino You can laugh forever , We dont care about Chinese and their butthurt feelings

You you can post whatever you want, that does not bring the TF35000 to fruiting and in the end make Kaan a successful fighter!

As such I'm lot laughing about Kaan, Turkey or what Turkish engineers managed to achieve, but only about you and your pathetic attempts to ignore engineering and material science!

 

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You you can post whatever you want, that does not bring the TF35000 to fruiting and in the end make Kaan a successful fighter!

As such I'm lot laughing about Kaan, Turkey or what Turkish engineers managed to achieve, but only about you and your pathetic attempts to ignore engineering and material science!

Our TEI and TAI dont know what about engineering and material science

but Chinese on PDF knows everything with their pathetic attempts


I am always showing official statements , I don't make up lies out of butt like your Chinese so-called professional friend.

 

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You dont know anything about Turkish Defense Industry and KAAN Fighter Jet


Here's anti-Turkiye propaganda post from a Chinese person who calls himself a professional #139


Michael's post
"2nd, KAAN, roughly at the level of a "4.25th Gen fighter"
Turkey lacks an advanced electronics industry, nor does it possess the necessary in-depth industrial capabilities. They only possess limited assembly capabilities.

Reality
Turkiye has its own systems such as GaN based AESA Radars , EOTS , IRST , DIRCM , EW Suite , Mission computer , HMDS , Targeting and Jamming Pods to equippe Fighter Jets

Turkish ASELSAN is one of leading companies in the world to make it

Even BAYKAR has demonstrated sensor fusion capabilities on the KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet called fault tolerant triple redundant Sensor Fusion


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Chinese user who calls himself a professional said KAAN is 4,25th gen Fighter

wth is 4,25th gen Fighter ? so-called professional person

btw , İf Russian SU-57 and Chinese J-35 are 5th gen according to them , then KAAN even with GE-F110 Engine is a 5th gen Fighter Jet too

 

[Deino]

Oh great ... so three more useless posts which will immediately help to bring the TF35000 closer to service!

 

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Oh great ... so three more useless posts which will immediately help to bring the TF35000 closer to service!

You are some one who said in 2020 that KAAN is ultra nationalistic fake project


We dont care about Chinese members on PDF
The KAAN made the first flight on February 21, 2024

Turkiye even achieved this 2 years before the program schedule
2 more KAAN jets have been produced, and actual test flights will begin this year.


We care about only Turkish TAI and TEI which says the KAAN will start test flights with the TF-35.000 engine in 2029 and 2033 for the final delivery

Everybody will see what will happen .... wait and see

 

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A small AI-enhanced image is for you proof that there are no gaps, zero error, the manufacturing quality is better than anything? Man, get a job and a life instead of trashing this thread only with propaganda.

Its not AI- enchanced image

Its real photo of the KAAN



Get the hell out of here now with your anti-Turkiye propaganda
I always remind everyone thay in 2020 , you said that KAAN is ultra nationalistic fake project

 

[Deino]

I’ll try one more time—even though I have little hope for you, since you don’t listen or want to understand anyway:

- I admire Kaan as a project, but one has to be realistic; *nothing* you post here is realistic in terms of timing, and the facts are simply so ambitious that the whole thing is implausible.

- None of your insults affect me in the slightest; they only show how pig-headed you are.

- For the umpteenth time: I am not Chinese!

 

[Afif]

This video has already shown enough information.

Aluminum alloy frame, hand assembly process, composite material production, surface polishing and painting......

This still presents a significant gap compared to the manufacturing of a true modern fifth-generation fighter jet. However, for staunch nationalists, rational explanations and analyses are meaningless.

KAAN's bulkheads are titanium made.

Do you expect prototype assembly to be done through automated serial production line?

If you don't know ins and outs of other country's defense industry, stick to your own. Or read all the stuff they publish, then come back for point to point discussion. Otherwise these vague 'rational analysis' of yours are nothing more than a word salad.

 

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-- Are you out of your mind ? These timings aren't something I made up

I am sharing official stataments from TAI and TEI
And They say that first delivery of the KAAN to the Turkish Air Force by 2029

TAI and TEI says the KAAN will start test flights with the TF-35.000 engine in 2029 and 2033 for the final delivery

wait and see ...


-- Only Chinese makes anti-Turkiye propaganda here

because KAAN will be another rival to Chinese export plans as like Turkish UCAVs dominated global export market and China lost first position to Turkiye